M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

I'm wounded.

I do think you are having a good mafia game.

Vote for me then. I dare you.

If I am wrong and you are town, you could try being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

[Jamiet99uk]

I do think you are having a good mafia game.

Vote for me then. I dare you.

If I am wrong and you are town, you could try being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Fun soundbite.

I am trying to be part of the solution.

I am looking for scum.

You are saying a lot of things which do not stack up from a rational thinking perspective.

This causes me to continue to suspect you.

[damo666]

After D1 I did not have any strong scum reads, now I am not sure on anyone being town. For some reason I get the feeling that scum think they can win today, which would mean there are 4 scum. My current theory is that ghug, damo, Jamie, and BesharamSabi are mafia.

This is a potential slip with Bozotheclown knowing there are 4 mafia.

How?

[damo666]

Caught up.

Surprised at the NK.

I was expecting it to be Sabi so they are out of my towncore.

Ghug still being alive is a bit suspicious but if he were scum I would expect him to have killed me. In a quandary here.

On the question of whether there are 3 or 4 scum I don't think it matters (other than the obvious) as it shouldn't affect how we play. We must try kill scum regardless, no?

Best guess at the mo is

##vote Bozo

Open to persuasion on others, particularly darg and ghug.

Still feeling town vibes from Jamie and Squiglet

[dargorygel]

Caught up.

Surprised at the NK.

I was expecting it to be Sabi so they are out of my towncore.

Ghug still being alive is a bit suspicious but if he were scum I would expect him to have killed me. In a quandary here.

On the question of whether there are 3 or 4 scum I don't think it matters (other than the obvious) as it shouldn't affect how we play. We must try kill scum regardless, no?

Best guess at the mo is

##vote Bozo

Open to persuasion on others, particularly darg and ghug.

Still feeling town vibes from Jamie and Squiglet

I, too, have growing concerns about ghug. Make a list if the present players, and ask who you would NK.

I think scum is both just being confusing, and can't NK their own

Ghug was a, if not the, key voter at both EoDs.

He's trying for an easy low hanging fruit here.

[dargorygel]

##vote ghug in fact

[dargorygel]

Llama who does not know me and ghug who does are both voting for me because I am playing the exact way I always do.

[dargorygel]

@ghug, why is sabi lock town instead of merely town?

[bozotheclown]

Vote for me then. I dare you.

If I am wrong and you are town, you could try being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

Fun soundbite.

I am trying to be part of the solution.

I am looking for scum.

You are saying a lot of things which do not stack up from a rational thinking perspective.

This causes me to continue to suspect you.

Then who else do you think might be mafia besides me? Even if you were correct, there would be at least 2 others, which you have made no attempt to identify.

[bozotheclown]

Caught up.

Surprised at the NK.

I was expecting it to be Sabi so they are out of my towncore.

Ghug still being alive is a bit suspicious but if he were scum I would expect him to have killed me. In a quandary here.

On the question of whether there are 3 or 4 scum I don't think it matters (other than the obvious) as it shouldn't affect how we play. We must try kill scum regardless, no?

Best guess at the mo is

##vote Bozo

Open to persuasion on others, particularly darg and ghug.

Still feeling town vibes from Jamie and Squiglet

I, too, have growing concerns about ghug. Make a list if the present players, and ask who you would NK.

I think scum is both just being confusing, and can't NK their own

Ghug was a, if not the, key voter at both EoDs.

He's trying for an easy low hanging fruit here.

It is possible ghug, DeathLlama, Jamie, and damo are all scum and they have set up 2 town for a mis-kill.

[dargorygel]

@damo
Where are you on bona? My scumread on him has diminished... Unlike bozo he does not seem tense under pressure.

[damo666]

@damo
Where are you on bona? My scumread on him has diminished... Unlike bozo he does not seem tense under pressure.

townleaning.

I wasn't early doors but I now find it difficult to form a team with him in it.

[dargorygel]

Who would you like, if the crew pre celeph death, to be in EoD with you if you were scum?

[damo666]

A list of players and who I think are unlikely scum partners

SABI none
BONA Bozo Darg DL Squig
BOZO Bona DL ghug
DARG Bozo
DL Bona Bozo
GHUG Bozo
Jamie none
SQUIGS Bona

So, I guess I ought to be voting among Sabi, Jamie, Darg, ghug and Squigs.

Jamie I townread, Squigs I townlean and I guess there's no chance of a Sabi kill today. This leaves me with Darg and ghug. Interestingly they are voting each other (mutual bussing?).

Views on these 2 (darg and ghug) sought from Sabi, Bona, Jamie and Squigs please.

Thanks.

[damo666]

Who would you like, if the crew pre celeph death, to be in EoD with you if you were scum?

I don't understand this question.

[dargorygel]

Who would you like, if the crew pre celeph death, to be in EoD with you if you were scum?

I don't understand this question.

Yeah. It came out wrong. I'm wondering if the scum team is particularly aiming at a safe last day. Who could they persuade, influence, control.

Bo would not be a good for scum endgame person. Nor would snowy. They both were daykilled, but scum might have easily pushed those kills. Food and celaph were both calm good thinkers. So they might have been offed to clean up the scumteam endgame situation.

It's probably a stretch.

[BesharamSabi]

Good morning puppies!

Just reading and what not.

Bozo I have a question. Do you think everyone that voted for you is potential scum? Like I don't get why you think 7 people in this game are all scum because they voted snowy or scum read you?

scumteam is confident in their position, celaph wasn't especially townread

Do you think bozo kills celaph? What would it say about who his teammates are?

idk that specific nk analysis, but imo, if they're killing lower-townread people, it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum

it means they can't kill more townread people for whatever reason - either them being wrong or them being scum

What does this mean Bona? Who is wrong in this context?

After D1 I did not have any strong scum reads, now I am not sure on anyone being town. For some reason I get the feeling that scum think they can win today, which would mean there are 4 scum. My current theory is that ghug, damo, Jamie, and BesharamSabi are mafia.

oh do you townread squigs now?

My current theory is that Squigs was just successfully pocketed by ghug, and I could see a team of ghug/damo/Jamie/BesharamSabi wanting to NK foodcoats N1 and come out D2 trying to get snowy DKed, knowing they could NK him N2 if they were not successful.

I gotta say that's the Weirdest possible mafia team especially since by that logic damo has been bussing me since day one lol. Remember damo trying to flash wagon me at EOD on day one?

Also I love foodcoats and would have never killed him. He's my best ally : (

I think Squigs pointed this out with the incorrect assumption that I am scum, but this is an illogical progression from BesharamSabi:

"Snowy = my highest of scum reads, keeps making excuses for inactiveness,tried to ATE us with that long winded post, his strategy in day one makes no sense, has tried to buddy me a lot which is giving me m70 vibes."

"Why isn't the snowy wagon going anywhere?"

"Bozo has been making more of an effort than the other two. Has been engaging more."

Fine fine fine, time to decide between bozo or snowy.

This is so hard.

Ugh I hate this.

Whatever I will do the vote thingy.

##VOTE snowy

My point stood on the fact that Sabi was using this in a TvS situation. If you are town, what motivation does scum Sabi have for this public deliberation?

I have publicly dilberated in previous games as well it's very much a me thing to do. I also don't like switching around my vote much and rather have one or two vote a day so I rather save it till the end to make my decision.

Re Sabi: you haven't played with them yet. I have a very hard time believing that this game would be inside their scum range, and if they're teammates with bozo specifically, there's no fucking way there aren't two others. We should not be wasting our time on Sabi today.

Damo's D2 came off very townie to me (he's not good at faking the thing where he spams barely comprehensible thoughts on a bunch of pairs, and there were a few moments like the one where he said he had an idea and then determined it was a non-starter that I liked), and I think the bozo connection is especially unlikely. I'm not eliminating him totally in a bozo-as-town world, but I definitely don't think he's bozo's teammate.

What's making you lean towards town on Jamie?

According to Sabi:

This is my third ever forum mafia game that isn't the board/card game version and I have been town so far, no idea tbh.

So I'm not sure how you've built up a meta to know this isn't scum Sabi. But I agree that Sabi should not be the focus today.

I think it would be easy for scum damo to replicate his scumpairings analysis thing and non-starters, so I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.

My townread on Jamie comes mostly from vibes in his more recent posts.

You get a pretty good idea of a person as a person from seeing them play as town. I don't think Sabi would be very good at mafia.

I can accept you'd think the latter two things, but I disagree with both.

Harsh but fair. Kinda hurt not even going to lie.

One day we will get a scum!Sabi.

[damo666]

Who would you like, if the crew pre celeph death, to be in EoD with you if you were scum?

I don't understand this question.

Yeah. It came out wrong. I'm wondering if the scum team is particularly aiming at a safe last day. Who could they persuade, influence, control.

Bo would not be a good for scum endgame person. Nor would snowy. They both were daykilled, but scum might have easily pushed those kills. Food and celaph were both calm good thinkers. So they might have been offed to clean up the scumteam endgame situation.

It's probably a stretch.

Oh I see. Sabi and Jamie maybe, DL and Squigs next.

[dargorygel]

"One day we will get a scum!Sabi"

Scumslip?

[dargorygel]

I don't remember Jamie doing anything significant this game except scum read me and snowy, so if he is town he is having a poor game.

I'm wounded.

I do think you are having a good mafia game.

Which is it?
Are you grasping for allies?