M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Squigs44]

I don't but his case or think you're scum but this post is gross.

Okay, so thats more of a "tinfoil" than "onto something" from you, ghug? Usually when I make these long cases I have confirmation bias goggles, but I like to revisit a townread of mine when I see something that pings me otherwise to keep myself from getting complacent.

So you townread Sabi going into the reread and changed your mind in the process? What caused you to look at their connections with bozo specifically?

Sabis first post after the snowy flip felt wrong to me, so I looked at Sabis EoD quickly and saw a potential Bozo connection. Note that this deep dive requires scum Bozo, so I'm not going to be voting Sabi until Bozo is flipped or we get more from Sabi that is independent to Bozo

[BesharamSabi]

day 2 player reads updated

Here is day ones post

viewtopic.php?p=274435#p274435

Bonatogether - (prev null, still null)
I felt like he was more active day 2 but I could be wrong. Still isn't giving me solid town vibes or even scum vibes. He hasn't done his usual scum hunt either. I am still baffled by him.

Bozotheclown - (prev scumlean, still scumlean)
I don't see any issues voting him off for day 3 if he isn't night killed. Yes he was more active and engaged but his vibes are still off. He's sti sporadic and hasn't explained his thought process. What I read from foods post still ringing in my war.

Celaph - (prev null, now scumlean)
I was hyped up about kgray telling me how great and fun celaph is at mafia and I have yet to witness any of that. He was barely around for day 2. When he as here he was barely posting or scum hunting. Don't mind voting for him day 3.

Damo666 - (prev scumlean, now null-scumlean)
Maybe I am biased because of his focus on me, still feel he's scummy but he could also just be null if yiu take away my bias. He seems to finally move on from me and started looking at other options.

Dargo - (prev null, still null)
Giving me nothing. Hasn't contribute much, and if anything less than worcej. Can't read them for anything.

DeathLlama8 - (prev townlean, still townlean)
Yea nothing in my read on him has changed. Still giving me townie vibes.

Ghug - (prev null, now null-townlean)
Would be townlean but snowy rather obsessed tunneling on ghug is inspiring me to reread his post sometime in the next 24 hours or so. Have to honor dead peoples wishes am I right.

Jamiet99uk - (prev townlean, still townlean)
Nothing has changed. Still think he's townie even if my reads in him tends to be more wrong than right. Maybe I will be right this time.

Squigs - (prev null, still null)
I haven't had time to reread them or anything since my last update. Should probably do that before I form an opinion. Trying to not be biased since they are now focusing on me.

[Squigs44]

Sabi of the 5 posts you included, 3 of those were in my case. The other 2 were basically a repeat of a different post that I included, so I don't think any info was excluded

[DeathLlama8]

Fine fine fine, time to decide between bozo or snowy.

This is so hard.

Ugh I hate this.

Whatever I will do the vote thingy.

##VOTE snowy

I don't really buy the rest of the case (it seems like it could plausibly be normal town read progression, especially for sabi), but this is a little weird. @sabi - can you explain what you were thinking about at EOD, and what your take on that was?

also before anyone shades sabi for their response to squigs this was pretty much what they were like last game as town

[damo666]

Tl;dr for those who don't like reading:
Sabi made two posts (included below) that feel like fake scum theater. This, plus Sabi making a couple posts defending Bozo early on, then a sudden change to scumreading Bozo (but not a top scumread) suggest a possible Sabi/Bozo scumpair.

Fine fine fine, time to decide between bozo or snowy.

This is so hard.

Ugh I hate this.

Whatever I will do the vote thingy.

##VOTE snowy

So we can't afford anymore miskills.

We, including myself in this, suck as town.

I'm sorry snowy but you were a pretty bad town and selfish strategy in day one cost the town the game. Never do that strategy aagain. Like what were you thinking there???

I don't like the first post but I don't see what's so wrong about the second.

Leaning tin foil but a Sabi/bozo scum pair not impossible. I also think either could be scum without the other.

[damo666]

I have unusually few townreads for this stage of the game.

Jamie is #1, Squigs #2

I'll hopefully do a complete reads list today but I'm fairly busy and my last post of the night will be no later than 6 hours before EON.

[bozotheclown]

major league SvS vibes

i think it's relatively clear that bozo the clown is scum

I would think you might reevaluate after being proved wrong.

[damo666]

why is thread dead? eod was informative

I look forward to your EOD analysis.

[bozotheclown]

ow

why is thread dead? eod was informative

What information do you think you gained?

[bozotheclown]

The mafia likely preferred snowy be eliminated today, he would have been a lot more helpful to town going forward.

who does this implicate?

It is hard to tell, but possibly damo and Jamie.

[bozotheclown]

Now I just need people I trust to tell me if I am tinfoiling or actually onto something

You are not onto something. I am town and I think BesharamSabi is town. If you are town, you need to look elsewhere.

[Bonatogether]

Now I just need people I trust to tell me if I am tinfoiling or actually onto something

Sabi doesn't operate this way imo, but in the event you're right, they will slip up and we can dk them.

[Bonatogether]

this is a 'think now, do later' type problem

[Bonatogether]

Anyway I am going to go do my day two reads after I posts the post that my dear friend Squigs neglected to cherry pick.

sabi wallposting? strange

[bozotheclown]

I was assuming there were only 3 mafia, but looking into mafia theory, the general recommendation for a game with no PRs is that the number of mafia should be equal to (number of players)^0.5, which in this case is 3.6, so 4 mafia is possible.

[bozotheclown]

So we can't afford anymore miskills.

We, including myself in this, suck as town.

I'm sorry snowy but you were a pretty bad town and selfish strategy in day one cost the town the game. Never do that strategy aagain. Like what were you thinking there???

This is a potential slip with BesharamSabi knowing there are 4 mafia. I thought BesharamSabi trying to demonstrate they were scum reading me was town indicative, because as mafia they would know I would flip town, but if the mafia only need one more mis-kill, they would only want to make sure I was DKed first.

[bozotheclown]

So we can't afford anymore miskills.

We, including myself in this, suck as town.

I'm sorry snowy but you were a pretty bad town and selfish strategy in day one cost the town the game. Never do that strategy aagain. Like what were you thinking there???

we haven't lost yet

I think BesharamSabi may be telling you that you have lost and just don't know it yet.

[BesharamSabi]

So we can't afford anymore miskills.

We, including myself in this, suck as town.

I'm sorry snowy but you were a pretty bad town and selfish strategy in day one cost the town the game. Never do that strategy aagain. Like what were you thinking there???

we haven't lost yet

I think BesharamSabi may be telling you that you have lost and just don't know it yet.

Why is everyone misunderstanding this post???

I did the mylo/lylo/whatever math. If we have 4 scum we are fucked. If we have 3 scum we are fucked. Regardless we have 2 miskills right now. One more and we are dead.

Like I don't know why you all think this is scum slip and not me freaking out as town that we screwed up with the miskills. Jesus.

[BesharamSabi]

Fine fine fine, time to decide between bozo or snowy.

This is so hard.

Ugh I hate this.

Whatever I will do the vote thingy.

##VOTE snowy

I don't really buy the rest of the case (it seems like it could plausibly be normal town read progression, especially for sabi), but this is a little weird. @sabi - can you explain what you were thinking about at EOD, and what your take on that was?

also before anyone shades sabi for their response to squigs this was pretty much what they were like last game as town

can you explain what you were thinking about at EOD, and what your take on that was?

I quite literally wasn't thinking during EOD since my post since Saturday have been shit due to being too tired to think. It was a throwaway post with me waiting till end of the day to decide who to vote for because I couldn't decide. I have no idea how that is scum indicative when my post has gone down since Saturday.


also before anyone shades sabi for their response to squigs this was pretty much what they were like last game as town

Yes I am literally like this every game when someone tunnels onto me. Sorry if it's gross or whatever but that's my natural reaction whenever I am being falsely accuses me of anything I didn't do.

[BesharamSabi]

Anyway I am going to go do my day two reads after I posts the post that my dear friend Squigs neglected to cherry pick.

sabi wallposting? strange

... Bruh this whole game I was wallposting. Please look at my word count for this game. If that makes me scum then hammer me. Day 3 I don't care anymore lol. That wasn't even my top 5 longest wallpost this game either.