M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

Celaph

At the time of writing this, you have not recorded any vote so far. You have a dozen or so posted so I'm going to comb through them to analyze them. Vast majority of your post is about the analysis of Bona. Your analysis on him seems conflicting at best. Need to come back to this or have others look into this and see what I'm not seeing.

I'm curious where you are getting the perception that the focus of my analysis has been on Bona. Roughly 0 of my posts have been analyzing Bona's actions and only two of them have been asking about others perceptions of him. Whereas I've highlighted things that I've liked from food, llama, and squigs the latter two being my strongest townreads at the moment.

Tbh I skimmed your post at the time of me Makin those comments. A lot of your post mentioned Bona. You did buddy up Squigs somewhat. I dunno.

[celaph]

Are we going to hammer today?

##VOTE BesharamSabi

Sabi are you scum?

I feel like Sabi is not a great wagon for today. Their 4 part response to Squigs makes me feel like someone who really wants to help be productive and useful, but doesn't really know how which lines up with their experience. I want to give them time to see how their view of the game develops.

@Sabi, may I ask what your preferred pronouns are?

[BesharamSabi]

This is an interesting worldview - do you expect scum to not try as hard in the game? What are the implications?

Because it's super obvious to change my playing style if I'm scum? I would have continued playing how I did the first two games because mainly everyone town read my dumb comments for most of the game till almost lylo time. Changing my style of playing and putting an effort in the game puts a spotlight on me that I would want to avoid if I were scum.

okay sabi's town
congrats on the jobs and/or interviews btw

I need it lol I hate job hunting so fucking much. Shoot me in the head.

[Squigs44]

Jamie have you changed in the last 2 years since I've been out? You haven't shown any degree of rage yet and I'm liking it but also I don't know how to read you when you're this calm

[BesharamSabi]

GHUG

HI G-hug, time to analyze your votes. At the time of writing this you had four valid votes.

Your four votes were all obvious joke votes at the start of the game. I'm going to save everyone the wall of text from reposting those four joke votes.

You haven't analyze players yet. Lots of post, nothing of substance. You also have difficulties with answering questions and have given non answers. This is weird and off.

Do you think that his behavior this game is different from his usual behavior? I agree that ghug's behavior is atypical for an average player, but I feel like he has always been that way.

He had 80 something posts that were all jokes and no analysis of any kind. Hasn't tried to scum hunt or intrograte people. Atleast in previous two games he was hounding people with questions and tunneling from day one. He is usually low effort but this is even less effort than his two town games before.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie have you changed in the last 2 years since I've been out? You haven't shown any degree of rage yet and I'm liking it but also I don't know how to read you when you're this calm

Why would I be enraged?

(I'm currently caught up to page 26, btw)

[BesharamSabi]

Are we going to hammer today?

##VOTE BesharamSabi

Sabi are you scum?

I feel like Sabi is not a great wagon for today. Their 4 part response to Squigs makes me feel like someone who really wants to help be productive and useful, but doesn't really know how which lines up with their experience. I want to give them time to see how their view of the game develops.

@Sabi, may I ask what your preferred pronouns are?

My pronouns are they/them. Thank you for asking!

I just want to know how people are viewing the other players outside of the straight forward trinary of town, null, scum analysis that I saw from the previous games. Maybe it's dumb idea but trying something new to get a better feel.

[ghug]

GHUG

HI G-hug, time to analyze your votes. At the time of writing this you had four valid votes.

Your four votes were all obvious joke votes at the start of the game. I'm going to save everyone the wall of text from reposting those four joke votes.

You haven't analyze players yet. Lots of post, nothing of substance. You also have difficulties with answering questions and have given non answers. This is weird and off.

Do you think that his behavior this game is different from his usual behavior? I agree that ghug's behavior is atypical for an average player, but I feel like he has always been that way.

He had 80 something posts that were all jokes and no analysis of any kind. Hasn't tried to scum hunt or intrograte people. Atleast in previous two games he was hounding people with questions and tunneling from day one. He is usually low effort but this is even less effort than his two town games before.

I actually think this is a fair line of reasoning from you, but low effort?? The fuck?

[celaph]

hi foodcoats, why did you vote squigs/jamiet/why are you voting sabi?

[llama's longer catch-up style post]

Kinda liking this from llama. Seems to have a decent sense of things worth commenting on, though I don't agree with his take on Bo's post.

Would like to hear what specifically you thought of the foodcoats post/bo reaction? It seemed pretty obvious why foodcoats posted that despite it not really leading to anything, so "why are you doing this" seemed like shutting down a pro-town mindset.

Bo's early posts make me think that he had paid little attention to anything previously and I think that Food's post looks a little weird without the context of why he is posting it which I suspect Bo hadn't read. I agree that his mindset is anti-town, but I think this post fits with what I saw from him up to that point.

Got to run to class, will finish catching up later.

[BesharamSabi]

Do you think that his behavior this game is different from his usual behavior? I agree that ghug's behavior is atypical for an average player, but I feel like he has always been that way.

He had 80 something posts that were all jokes and no analysis of any kind. Hasn't tried to scum hunt or intrograte people. Atleast in previous two games he was hounding people with questions and tunneling from day one. He is usually low effort but this is even less effort than his two town games before.

I actually think this is a fair line of reasoning from you, but low effort?? The fuck?

You haven't obsessively questioned someone yet. All your post so far have been low effort shit post this game. I expected better from you.

Also did you clean your stove?

[Jamiet99uk]

if it's not a crosspost, then town!sqoog makes the post he did in explicit reference to ghug's post unless he's just thinking weirdly, but, imo, scum!sqoog has an 'oh shit' moment when he sees ghug's post because the logical association (ghug = good hunter) doesn't make sense given their common experience (ghug = tunneller), but for whatever reason, he wants ghug to stay alive (which we can presume in this case, since he singled out ghug as a good scumhunter), so he needs to keep those two in alignment

this might be incomprehensible

yeah sorry the second part of that kinda is

I guess why do you think that looked like an "oh shit" reaction?

lemme rewrite this

ON ASSUMPITION THERE IS NO CROSSPOST:

town!sqoog:
doesn't have a reason to not reply to ghug's post about the game

scum!sqoog:
1) wants to keep ghug alive for some reason (singles him out as a one good scumhunter)
2) ghug asks why he has the association of good scumhunter, based on one game from a while back
3) sqoog sees it, realizes that this undercuts the narrative he's trying to set up, so he needs to show that there's no contradiction (the oh shit moment), so he says it, which smooths over the gap in the statements

I don't get this. You seem to be drilling heavily into a tiny detail that I can't say I even noticed.

[Jamiet99uk]

I actually think this is a fair line of reasoning from you, but low effort?? The fuck?

You haven't obsessively questioned someone yet. All your post so far have been low effort shit post this game. I expected better from you.

Also did you clean your stove?

Clean his stove?

What is this weird question?

Who are you, Jordan Peterson?

[Jamiet99uk]

uh that just seems like he'd say it as either alignment in a similar way?

christ

town!sqoogs doesn't seem to have a reason to make the post that he did on assumption that there's no crosspost

so if we assume no crosspost (which is how i thought things went), sqoogs is likely scum

Genuinely no idea what Bona is talking about here.

[BesharamSabi]

I actually think this is a fair line of reasoning from you, but low effort?? The fuck?

You haven't obsessively questioned someone yet. All your post so far have been low effort shit post this game. I expected better from you.

Also did you clean your stove?

Clean his stove?

What is this weird question?

Who are you, Jordan Peterson?

I actually not a huge fan of eating red meat so a diet of only raw red meat would be hell for me so that answers the Jordan Peterson comment.

It was a joke because he posted a photo of his stove before and it was filthy.

Once again Jamiet takes all my jokes as serious. What else is new?

[BesharamSabi]

I laid out questions for people to answer. No one will answer me.

Sad.

Most of your questions were "Are you scum?" or "Are you excited about your role?" (in a pure vanilla game). They were not meaningful or useful questions.

Are you scum?

Once again that was the beginning but then I started asking the following questions:

if people were scum, who would they nk on the first night?

This question I wanted to figure out who they thought was a strong town player that could be an enemy of them. That was my roundabout way of asking that question.

if you were doctor in this game who would you save n1 from being killed

Another roundabout way of saying who do you think so far is the town most valuable player.

who would be your ideal and not ideal scum teammates?

Also a roundabout way of asking their analysis on players and how they feel about them.

So there.

And no I'm not scum. : )

Jamie you haven't responded to my reasoning for my questions yet. I want your thoughts on my strategy about this. : )

[President Eden]

DAY 1 VOTE COUNT THE FIRST: NINE ALTARS ROCKS EDITION

celaph (3): bo_sox48^, Bonatogether, Squigs44
Bonatogether (2): ghug, snowy801
damo666 (2): worcej, DeathLlama8
ghug (1): BesharamSabi
Squigs44 (1): bozotheclown
bo_sox48 (1): damo666
BesharamSabi (1): foodcoats

Not Yet Voted (2): celaph, Jamiet99uk

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Currently celaph is set to get rocked at the end of Day 1 in approximately 26h45m.

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[DeathLlama8]

uh that just seems like he'd say it as either alignment in a similar way?

christ

town!sqoogs doesn't seem to have a reason to make the post that he did on assumption that there's no crosspost

so if we assume no crosspost (which is how i thought things went), sqoogs is likely scum

Genuinely no idea what Bona is talking about here.

They think that Squigs said Ghug was a good scumhunter, saw Ghug ask why he didn't remember Ghug for tunneling in some 2014 game, then immediately bring it up, which they think is scummy.

do you think this is alignment-indicative for bona?

[DeathLlama8]

if people were scum, who would they nk on the first night?

This question I wanted to figure out who they thought was a strong town player that could be an enemy of them. That was my roundabout way of asking that question.

what does the word "roundabout" mean to you

[Jamiet99uk]

christ

town!sqoogs doesn't seem to have a reason to make the post that he did on assumption that there's no crosspost

so if we assume no crosspost (which is how i thought things went), sqoogs is likely scum

Genuinely no idea what Bona is talking about here.

They think that Squigs said Ghug was a good scumhunter, saw Ghug ask why he didn't remember Ghug for tunneling in some 2014 game, then immediately bring it up, which they think is scummy.

do you think this is alignment-indicative for bona?

No.

I also don't think it's some kind of "Gotcha" on Squiggs.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie you haven't responded to my reasoning for my questions yet. I want your thoughts on my strategy about this. : )

I'll finish catching up and then I might have some things to say about you.