M1020 — Speed Run Mafia GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

Sabi did you thereby conclude anything while writing your long post?

[Jamiet99uk]

given *gestures vaguely* I feel like scum!sabi would be hiding more, instead of being more engaged than usual

Do people have experience with scum sabi?

I have been town every game I played lol

Until now?

[BesharamSabi]

For Squigs essay question found here (viewtopic.php?p=273473#p273473)

I will analyze each players votes one by one to help compare and contrast why. This will go in alphabetical order because peterbot so please don't analyze my order. Going to split this into 4 parts (3 players each) so that it's not a giant wall of text.

Part 1 can be found here (viewtopic.php?p=273484#p273484)

PART TWO OF FOUR

Celaph

At the time of writing this, you have not recorded any vote so far. You have a dozen or so posted so I'm going to comb through them to analyze them. Vast majority of your post is about the analysis of Bona. Your analysis on him seems conflicting at best. Need to come back to this or have others look into this and see what I'm not seeing.

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damo666

You are back to tunneling me, I missed it. Anyway at the time of writing this you have three valid votes so let's analyze them shall we.

##vote worcej

he hasn't posted

This is your first vote on page 5. This could be a joke vote I suppose unless someone else sees something I don't which is fine. The game had just recently started way earlier than planned.

##vote Besh

This was your second vote on page 28. This was a follow up vote after several posts questioning and suspecting me for my posting which is fair and valid thing to critique.

The following are not worth voting day 1 because if they are scum they will give it away soon enough:

Bozo
ghug
Jamie
Squiggs

I have given Bona townpoints so he is off the list.

I don't think Llama asks the gm for a mafcount if he were maf so I'll give him a pass for now.

This leaves:

Sabi
Bo
Celaph
Food
Snowy
Worcej

Of these I am currently voting Sabi because I'm not convinced the activity is genuine but I guess not enough people will agree with that to make a viable wagon so ##unvote.

I am reluctant to vote snowy as too valuable if town. So, I am left with

Bo
Celaph
Food
Worcej

##vote Bo [alphabetically]

This is your third valid vote on page 29 after around 3 hours of casting your vote on to me. This time you have expanded on your votes and realize that no one, or at least I, reacted to your vote in me. I do appreciate your analyze on these players. Any reason why you think snowy is too valuable to town that you wouldn't vote for him damo?

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DeathLlama8

We meet again, I like playing with you. As I am writing this you have two recorded valid votes so far so let's analyze them shall we.

gross

##vote ghug ##end

This is your first vote on page 4. This was after ghug made his super creepy daddy ghug joke so I'm going to label this as a throwaway vote in reaction to ghug joke.

##vote bo ##unend?

vibes are kinda off and scumhunt-tangential but I can't remember what they normally play like

This is your second vote on page 25. You gave us analysis on why you are voting for bo which is greatly appreciated. You posts before this doesn't really discuss or sus out bo. Is there any reason for this DL because it seems like this vote and analysis came out of nowhere.

[snowy801]

Oh right this was a 4 parter carry on

[Bonatogether]

i just realized when sabi called bona reactionary they meant in a mafia sense not that bona's an eighteenth century french conservative

Bona is also an 18th century French conservative.

posting from french class to confirm I support Louis XV

[Squigs44]

I've created a monster.

When do I tell Sabi that they aren't really answering my question as I intended? After all 4 parts? Okay. But honestly I'm fine with whatever you post as long as you don't just summarize 30 pages in 4 long posts

[Bonatogether]

Ask me why I think you are scum and try to convince me that that reasoning is wrong.

Instead you tried convincing the other 11 or however many people in the game that I'm full of crap and my opinions can't be trusted. Town try to work together and correct incorrect lines of reasoning. Or at least they should.

I think my initial goal of voting you for pressure has accomplished its goal in getting conversations going and jumpstarting us out of the day 1 random question phase so I'll stand by that vote.

As for my thoughts on Bona now, I certainly haven't seen anything that convinces me Bona is town, but with input from Ghug and Sabi I might have to accept that my feelings towards Bona are mostly NAI and I'm gonna have to start looking at other players as well to get a better picture

You've stated why you think I'm scum. I don't need to ask.

This is not factual. I wanted to call out that, from my perspective, you made a flagrantly scummy move. You haven't responded to this and instead have only wallposted about...something.

What's so special about your vote that it's the one I 'freak out' over and not the other like, 5 votes on me?

I voted you on page 14. I didn't post reasoning for the vote until page 21. In between those 7 pages you made about 10 posts directed at me or about me without asking for my reasoning. At this point we're past it and I'd like to move on from it.

What exactly did you want me to address? What did I do that was flagrantly scummy? I think the only time you've explicitly tried to convince people I was scum was over the whole crosspost thing, which is so baseless I didn't think it needed addressing

If you read my response to DL on page 23, you'll see that I took issue with your response to both Bo and Bozos votes on you. Obviously you've done/said more in opposition to me than any of the others, so thats why it has received more attention

Were any of my posts directed at your vote? I don't think so

did you read my posts at all beyond 'hmm bona thinks i looks sus'

again, idr that i ever responded to your vote and not the thing i was actually calling out

[Bonatogether]

ghug what was your smart quote on me

From M69:

Town bona gets miskilled for having our there ideas and expressing them in a way that annoys people. Scum bona tries to mimic this by being loud and annoying because he knows people like me will defend him for it.

Ghug saying scum Bona knows people like him [ghug] will defend him [bona].
Bona using a quote from ghug to try to defend himself this game.

what a bs way to shade me

[Bonatogether]

got a 9/10 on a quiz

hype

[snowy801]

i just realized when sabi called bona reactionary they meant in a mafia sense not that bona's an eighteenth century french conservative

Bona is also an 18th century French conservative.

posting from french class to confirm I support Louis XV

Explains a lot about your CK2 governing policies

[snowy801]

I've created a monster.

When do I tell Sabi that they aren't really answering my question as I intended? After all 4 parts? Okay. But honestly I'm fine with whatever you post as long as you don't just summarize 30 pages in 4 long posts

When they're done

[damo666]

How is this 28 pages long already?

Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.

Which do you think is more likely?

the numbers would suggest tryharding but my gut is much closer to 50/50

[BesharamSabi]

For Squigs essay question found here (viewtopic.php?p=273473#p273473)

I will analyze each players votes one by one to help compare and contrast why. This will go in alphabetical order because peterbot so please don't analyze my order. Going to split this into 4 parts (3 players each) so that it's not a giant wall of text.

Part 1 can be found here (viewtopic.php?p=273484#p273484)
Part 2 can be found here (viewtopic.php?p=273493#p273493)

PART THREE OF FOUR

FOODCOATS

Glad you're back playing mafia. At the time of writing this you have had three valid votes.

So uh
Who are you like
Voting for

Bona duh.

Can't wait for us to be best allies in mafia this time : )

Are you trying to pocket me?

##VOTE bona

This was your first vote on page 5. I made a joke comment about voting for Bona as a joke and you followed through by this even tho you asked if I was pocketing you. I could write this off as a joke vote unless someone sees something I don't.

You think you're typical?

it's not impossible is the point

This is the post that pinged town for me for bona. I like it again re-reading it. Bona is not easily convinced as town and can follow his gut like a hound. I misread this kind of obstinacy the first time I played with him. I think this is to form for town!bona.

##VOTE Squigs

This is your second vote on page 12. This vote comes with you defending Bona this time around. Any reason why you voted for Squigs who seems to not be familiar with Bona? You never really expanded on your reasoning for this vote, just talking about how Bona is town.

Coolio.

I have two Fender Precision basses, one of which has some really meaty Seymour Duncan Bass Lines pickups from the 1990s, it has such a nice tone. Got a couple of short scale basses too.

I'll start playing this game now I promise. Just waking up.

Jamie promised to play but isn't here. Doesn't he have a policy to vote for liars?

##vote Jamie

Ha! I like it.

##VOTE Jamie

This is your third vote on page 29. Seems like you decided to unsus Squigs and join him on the Jamie joke vote wagon. Is there any reason why you did this food. None of your posts really point why you joke voted for Jamie and it's odd that you went from joke vote to semi serious vote and then back to joke vote?

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GHUG

HI G-hug, time to analyze your votes. At the time of writing this you had four valid votes.

Your four votes were all obvious joke votes at the start of the game. I'm going to save everyone the wall of text from reposting those four joke votes.

You haven't analyze players yet. Lots of post, nothing of substance. You also have difficulties with answering questions and have given non answers. This is weird and off.

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JAMIET99UK

Mr. Grumpy gills, you have no recorded valid votes as of writing this. You have barely contributed to this game. Do better.

[Squigs44]

Were any of my posts directed at your vote? I don't think so

I never said you made posts directed at my vote. I said:

you made about 10 posts directed at me or about me

But also yes, you did here:

imagine talking shit about food for not doing anything, bo for 'being useless', then doing nothing else, and voting me without an explanation

[ghug]

Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.

Which do you think is more likely?

the numbers would suggest tryharding but my gut is much closer to 50/50

Why the vote, then?

[damo666]

Because Sabi is asking lots of silly hypothetical questions. It's either tryharding or cover for having drawn scum for the first time.

Which do you think is more likely?

the numbers would suggest tryharding but my gut is much closer to 50/50

Changed my mind. I actually quite like his 4 part response to squigs. I think Sabi really is town.

[snowy801]

Which do you think is more likely?

the numbers would suggest tryharding but my gut is much closer to 50/50

Changed my mind. I actually quite like his 4 part response to squigs. I think Sabi really is town.

But it's only 3 parts so far!

[damo666]

Which do you think is more likely?

the numbers would suggest tryharding but my gut is much closer to 50/50

Why the vote, then?

Standard answer #2

[Squigs44]

So I liked Celaphs vibes early on, but since page 13 Celaph has made 7 posts:
1 question to me
4 posts defending/agreeing with me
1 posts giving the quote I asked for
1 post saying good job DL

I can't help but shake the feeling Celaph is trying to buddy me after my post saying I liked em.

[damo666]

the numbers would suggest tryharding but my gut is much closer to 50/50

Changed my mind. I actually quite like his 4 part response to squigs. I think Sabi really is town.

But it's only 3 parts so far!

I think we can guess the format/tone/style of the 4th without seeing it.