M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[Durga]

And if you’re town, I don’t see how I can win with you writing off my reread, pushing to end the game, and knowingly not give me the chance to go right. I can hold my head high in GT with this one. Except for not being townread enough prior to today (which is hard as Vecna sub) nothing I can do at the end.

i'm not gonna end wihtout hearing all you have to say and giving you the time you need to reaad everything - i'm kinda confident but not THAT confident

[Durga]

##vote Durga. I think you’re overplaying your hand. And I’m hoping Doom was just setting a trap rather than being 100% sincere.

Bunny, about half of your posts this day have been rereading me and wondering if I'm scum, and very faint discussion about Durga maybe being Scum.

I know you said you're not a great litigator, but could you give me something to tell me you're town and Durga is the Scum? I don't want to be wrong here, but

Right, and if you think I'm town Bunny I'd like to see why doom is scum

[Durga]

##vote Durga. I think you’re overplaying your hand. And I’m hoping Doom was just setting a trap rather than being 100% sincere.

Bunny, about half of your posts this day have been rereading me and wondering if I'm scum, and very faint discussion about Durga maybe being Scum.

I know you said you're not a great litigator, but could you give me something to tell me you're town and Durga is the Scum? I don't want to be wrong here, but

Did you not see the post where I said she was the scummier of day 1?

Here’s my POV (it’s the only one I have):

1) I understood why you all were voting Sabi, and I really sympathized with you doing it as you’ve never played end game before, but Durga should know better than to play defense and hand back a lead of miskills in our pocket at the end. She also should have known Sabi better.

2) Her day 1 isn’t great.

3) she’s been the loudest leader of miskill pushes. In addition, while advocating for miskills to clear up the KiLo, she kept saving and shading me. This isn’t clearing things up.

Now…am I sure I’m correct? No. You had really weird tone the first few days. Very different than the prior game. I originally wrote it off as “more comfortable “ or “not VT”. I still think that’s correct. But it could be more comfortable.

Your VCA is much much better than hers.

It is towny to be wrong. And it’s towny to not know things. But it’s not towny to advocate for yourself being brilliant town after repeatedly not knowing and being wrong.


So choosing between you two, I choose that Durga is more likely the scum.

If she’s town, I’m also more willing to pay off to your win. You’ve played the scum game really really well. She hasn’t played town as well. I find when I play to payoff to good players, I win more often. It’s a deciding factor for me when I’m stuck.

this is the second time you've said i'm acting to be brilliant town - can you extrapolate on why you think that i'm acting this way, beyond the fact that i think the sabi kill was the right move?

[Durga]

Okay I think I'm caught up.

[Durga]

fuck if doom is scum this has to be like foxcastle level top tier performance

[Doom427]

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my first post if you add the numbers is 7 (that Chaqa crumb will stick with me as such an... odd one), which I also try to telegraph by swaping when I do alphanumeric and when I spell it out.

lol wtf is this what doom

Apparently this is not a thing VT should do? I'd say they should, cause Townies shouldn't be looking for crumbs, that's PR Hunting, so fake crumbs realistically would only be caught by Scum, and making it harder for scum to find PR is good. But that's whatever.

Durga's posts are reading pretty townie in the exchanges with Bunny, but Bunny's said many times he's not great at arguing a case, and Durga clearly is.

And I felt bad b/c RDR clearly, with 20/20 hindsight, had the game right. If we killed Durga and Bunny, it's game over. So I feel bad that I didn't trust my gut, and what I said as soon as night started, that we should kill Durga and then Bunny. Sure, I can stand by my choices in the game as the best I could make with the info I had, but that doesn't mean I feel great about all of them.

You would want to keep Bunny arround because I've wanted to kill Bunny for a while?!? If it was RDR and you at endgame, I'd say RDR is town, and you're scum?

Come on, this is obvious Durga.

[Durga]

your quotes are empty doom

[Doom427]

your quotes are empty doom

They'd be too big otherwise

if you click into them you can jump and see what the quote is, but I'm already at massive word count on each post. Didn't want a total mammoth that's impossible to scroll through

[Durga]

well this is worse

[Doom427]

well this is worse

Ugh, fine. In future I'll keep it to one quote per post

[Durga]

okay and then next time i invite you to push your scum reads instead of everyone getting mad at me for pushing mine? and given the fact that you joined me on those reads like......... okay.......... you really have no right and it kinda bothers me that somehow i'm supposed to be omnipotent about this while no one else is (minus whichever one of you is scum).

A lot of people said a lot of things this game but you can say all you want and it means nothing. Rdr might have been right about bunny but he didn't put in any effort to seeing it actually go through, nor did he do a good job of defending himself.

Idk who you wanted to kill, and why, and when. But you had the opportunity to push your bunny kill and you didn't do it - that's on you.

Lot of shirking of responsibility going on here

[Doom427]

Like obviously it ages well if I'm town, both of you are listed!!!!!

Take a breath. Reread what you were just saying. And tell me it looks towny.

It... umm... it really isn't though bunny?

Part of what's confusing is this post

Doom I feel like is trying the whole naive noob thing again (thought damo was co-gm? really?) but this is her second game so no reason for that.

Snowy...... Feels good? But he felt good d1 of last game too so idk. He's just too good for me.

I'll give Vecna another day to weigh in since it was the week-end.

TFB high sus - would vote unless changes. He feels hella stiff.

If Durga is town, this post has aged well. She catches a scum, and a PR.

Is town reading the Day 1 kill (AKA someone that Mafia believe are town read), say Vecna hasn't posted much, and that TFB should be voted out. TFB is a PR that's only power is clearing itself, it shouldn't be acting weirdly, that's not picking up on anything. And then saying I'm too naive.

By posting it, it should be something that moves the game or your reads forward, but this doesn't!

From your perspective, it's either me or Durga that's the Scum. So Durga n1 saying I could be scum? It's meaningless. It does nothing. Except remind Durga she scumread me once upon a time, and maybe she should do that again?

[Doom427]

okay and then next time i invite you to push your scum reads instead of everyone getting mad at me for pushing mine? and given the fact that you joined me on those reads like......... okay.......... you really have no right and it kinda bothers me that somehow i'm supposed to be omnipotent about this while no one else is (minus whichever one of you is scum).

A lot of people said a lot of things this game but you can say all you want and it means nothing. Rdr might have been right about bunny but he didn't put in any effort to seeing it actually go through, nor did he do a good job of defending himself.

Idk who you wanted to kill, and why, and when. But you had the opportunity to push your bunny kill and you didn't do it - that's on you.

Lot of shirking of responsibility going on here

Well, I don't know how to push things, sorry? I gave my reasons for scum reading Bunny, I posted a couple rereads, and I put votes on him. There ain't much more I can do than that!!!

I'm not mad at you for being wrong, I'm mad at myself for not pushing Bunny more, for not being good enough at posting to convince others.

[Durga]

"omg durga has been pushing her reads who 2/3 times happened to be town!!!!!" like you're more than welcome to all push your own reads babes - pretty convenient that bunny, after happily taking a back seat the entire game except to push people who would NEVER get daykilled, is now blaming me for those flips

[Durga]

bunny conveniently picking ghug and DL as his top scum reads while saying I should know better for rdr and sabi - what a joke

[Doom427]

bunny conveniently picking ghug and DL as his top scum reads while saying I should know better for rdr and sabi - what a joke

Yeah- bunny is a lot worse as far as reads go. RDR and Sabi were MUCH better reads. I joined you on both of them, and never voted Ghug or DL.

Don't really think we'll get too much more out of our discussion, I feel solid about you, especially after the reread. I'm on bunny and feel alright with it, tho. I want to see if there's some evidence Bunny can somehow find that'll make me sure he's town.

[Bonatogether]

VOTE COUNT: SPOOKY TIME

BunnyGo (2): Durga, Doom
Durga (1): BunnyGo

YALL GOT A DAY TO FIGURE THIS OUT

YALL MET THEM POSTING AND VOTING REQUIREMENTS

[Durga]

are you sayinig we havent figured it out bona?

[Durga]

where did y'all go

[Doom427]

where did y'all go

Making spooky treats for a hocus pocus party.

I've seen this movie once, as an adult, so it's not an easy task.

I'm making cosmopolitans as well because Sarah Jessica Parker is in it, and I know sex and the city a lot better.