M1019 – Once Upon A Time… [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Lol you're so bad.

[ghug]

You go through to build a little confbias case on me and can't be fucked to even mention the one person we know to be scum, with whom I had many reactions and on whom I led a daykill push that forced a fakeclaim?

[BunnyGo]

And as I said before: ghug was exactly the one person that my post wasn't written for. Literally everyone else was the audience.

[BunnyGo]

You go through to build a little confbias case on me and can't be fucked to even mention the one person we know to be scum, with whom I had many reactions and on whom I led a daykill push that forced a fakeclaim?

But as for "leading a daykill push" I call "FAAAAAAAAAKEEEE". You talked a lot at him by shitposting, but you didn't "lead the push".

[Durga]

Lol you're so bad.

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[ghug]

You go through to build a little confbias case on me and can't be fucked to even mention the one person we know to be scum, with whom I had many reactions and on whom I led a daykill push that forced a fakeclaim?

But as for "leading a daykill push" I call "FAAAAAAAAAKEEEE". You talked a lot at him by shitposting, but you didn't "lead the push".

I voted for him at a key time. I pushed snowy to join me. You're positing that I bussed him, and that he bussed me. He spent much of the day joking that I was scum with him and Durga. I imagine you've just been looking through my bot posts in isolation, so I'd be surprised if you're even aware of the latter two. If you were looking to solve rather than simply to fling shit, you'd at least mention Kak in your case on me. It's the biggest piece of concrete information we have.

[ghug]

Lol you're so bad.

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You like his garbage?

[Durga]

Lol you're so bad.

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You like his garbage?

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEE

[damo666]

ghug is town, Bunny is mistaken

[BunnyGo]

You go through to build a little confbias case on me and can't be fucked to even mention the one person we know to be scum, with whom I had many reactions and on whom I led a daykill push that forced a fakeclaim?

But as for "leading a daykill push" I call "FAAAAAAAAAKEEEE". You talked a lot at him by shitposting, but you didn't "lead the push".

I voted for him at a key time. I pushed snowy to join me. You're positing that I bussed him, and that he bussed me. He spent much of the day joking that I was scum with him and Durga. I imagine you've just been looking through my bot posts in isolation, so I'd be surprised if you're even aware of the latter two. If you were looking to solve rather than simply to fling shit, you'd at least mention Kak in your case on me. It's the biggest piece of concrete information we have.

You're correct I was summarizing my read on you in isolation. I have not reread kaka yet. But that was the point...I was summarizing my read on you, not my conclusions from what I can learn from kaka/damo.

You moving the goalposts to attack literally everything I try to write is not town!ghug who thinks I tunnel too hard and miss things, it's frustrated scum!ghug. This is the point.

[BunnyGo]

ghug is town, Bunny is mistaken

This may be true too. It's been known to happen.

[ghug]

ghug is town, Bunny is mistaken

Mistaken feels weak here. I don't have much respect for Bunny's town game, but I think he'd be a little better than this.

[Durga]

ghug is town, Bunny is mistaken

Mistaken feels weak here. I don't have much respect for Bunny's town game, but I think he'd be a little better than this.

You do...? Since when would you think that

[Durga]

I think ghug is *likely* town. Not lock town, but likely.

[ghug]

But as for "leading a daykill push" I call "FAAAAAAAAAKEEEE". You talked a lot at him by shitposting, but you didn't "lead the push".

I voted for him at a key time. I pushed snowy to join me. You're positing that I bussed him, and that he bussed me. He spent much of the day joking that I was scum with him and Durga. I imagine you've just been looking through my bot posts in isolation, so I'd be surprised if you're even aware of the latter two. If you were looking to solve rather than simply to fling shit, you'd at least mention Kak in your case on me. It's the biggest piece of concrete information we have.

You're correct I was summarizing my read on you in isolation. I have not reread kaka yet. But that was the point...I was summarizing my read on you, not my conclusions from what I can learn from kaka/damo.

You moving the goalposts to attack literally everything I try to write is not town!ghug who thinks I tunnel too hard and miss things, it's frustrated scum!ghug. This is the point.

I'm not moving any goalposts. I think the way you're approaching this is flawed.

You came in with a scumread on me, which is fine. I attacked you for doing something despicable that I think is an attribute of Bunny the person, not Bunny the [alignment], but even reading that reaction as scummy isn't that weird to me, since you haven't shown much understanding of why people don't like you pulling that shit in the past, and someone reacting strongly to your push on them is likely to set off the confirmation bias.

What I don't like here is how lazy the follow-up is. We got a scum flip. You apparently thought Kak was town until the damo thing, so this should be new information that you're excited to incorporate. Instead, you look up my name in the bot and pick a bunch of things you don't like. I don't believe that even you think that's a worthwhile way for a townie to approach the game.

[BunnyGo]

I voted for him at a key time. I pushed snowy to join me. You're positing that I bussed him, and that he bussed me. He spent much of the day joking that I was scum with him and Durga. I imagine you've just been looking through my bot posts in isolation, so I'd be surprised if you're even aware of the latter two. If you were looking to solve rather than simply to fling shit, you'd at least mention Kak in your case on me. It's the biggest piece of concrete information we have.

You're correct I was summarizing my read on you in isolation. I have not reread kaka yet. But that was the point...I was summarizing my read on you, not my conclusions from what I can learn from kaka/damo.

You moving the goalposts to attack literally everything I try to write is not town!ghug who thinks I tunnel too hard and miss things, it's frustrated scum!ghug. This is the point.

I'm not moving any goalposts. I think the way you're approaching this is flawed.

You came in with a scumread on me, which is fine. I attacked you for doing something despicable that I think is an attribute of Bunny the person, not Bunny the [alignment], but even reading that reaction as scummy isn't that weird to me, since you haven't shown much understanding of why people don't like you pulling that shit in the past, and someone reacting strongly to your push on them is likely to set off the confirmation bias.

What I don't like here is how lazy the follow-up is. We got a scum flip. You apparently thought Kak was town until the damo thing, so this should be new information that you're excited to incorporate. Instead, you look up my name in the bot and pick a bunch of things you don't like. I don't believe that even you think that's a worthwhile way for a townie to approach the game.

The "metagaming" aspect of things I think you're wrong, but whatever. I understand why you don't like it, but you thinking people don't take advantage of things is incorrect. It's better to be clear about what you see and think, and not pretend stuff doesn't sink in (or be explicit about where the game is allowed to start and stop and make sure it does).

As for the game, I thought kaka was scummy up until he claimed. Then I thought "strange claim, and if it's fake the cost of being wrong about believing it is low, so I'll believe it." I joined after damo already counter claimed, and so when I joined I thought kaka was scummy again. Considering I had thought that damo was the child, I was feeling good about being correct on that.

As for kak's posts about joking about his teammates, he seems like the sort of player who would think including 1 scum and 1 town is "random" and the thing to do. It's a pretty common way to lie when trying to joke around.

My post about you was specifically the one I said I'd post about why I thought you were scum. A post about what I can learn about kaka is coming when I have time to reread that. But I'm looking forward to the people already organizing the VCA as a time saver.

[BunnyGo]

I voted for him at a key time. I pushed snowy to join me. You're positing that I bussed him, and that he bussed me. He spent much of the day joking that I was scum with him and Durga. I imagine you've just been looking through my bot posts in isolation, so I'd be surprised if you're even aware of the latter two. If you were looking to solve rather than simply to fling shit, you'd at least mention Kak in your case on me. It's the biggest piece of concrete information we have.

You're correct I was summarizing my read on you in isolation. I have not reread kaka yet. But that was the point...I was summarizing my read on you, not my conclusions from what I can learn from kaka/damo.

You moving the goalposts to attack literally everything I try to write is not town!ghug who thinks I tunnel too hard and miss things, it's frustrated scum!ghug. This is the point.

I'm not moving any goalposts. I think the way you're approaching this is flawed.

You came in with a scumread on me, which is fine. I attacked you for doing something despicable that I think is an attribute of Bunny the person, not Bunny the [alignment], but even reading that reaction as scummy isn't that weird to me, since you haven't shown much understanding of why people don't like you pulling that shit in the past, and someone reacting strongly to your push on them is likely to set off the confirmation bias.

What I don't like here is how lazy the follow-up is. We got a scum flip. You apparently thought Kak was town until the damo thing, so this should be new information that you're excited to incorporate. Instead, you look up my name in the bot and pick a bunch of things you don't like. I don't believe that even you think that's a worthwhile way for a townie to approach the game.

And as for "doing something despicable" what I did was ask a question and comment I thought it strange that nobody else mentioned it once. People not reacting to something is a thing.

[DeathLlama8]

idt anything Bunny's doing has actually been alignment indicative - I thought his early posts were pretty towny, but he also subbed in so he probably had those general thoughts ready no matter what his alignment was. The kind of town player who would enter a game after that D1 with a completely ranked list of every remaining player is the same kind of town player who would build a case after we just caught scum by just listing things the player's done and saying each individual thing is scummy.

[DeathLlama8]

Quick reads and I really have to run:

Townier ————scummier

Damo, Durga, Jamie, UberSabi,Doom, DeathLlama, TFB, Ghug (shocked nobody else thinks so), kaka

Also yeah can you explain your thought process behind any of this? It's NAI but I genuinely don't understand how you could have this sort of list after a D1 that was like 12 pages

[ghug]

idt anything Bunny's doing has actually been alignment indicative - I thought his early posts were pretty towny, but he also subbed in so he probably had those general thoughts ready no matter what his alignment was. The kind of town player who would enter a game after that D1 with a completely ranked list of every remaining player is the same kind of town player who would build a case after we just caught scum by just listing things the player's done and saying each individual thing is scummy.

I'm not sure how that follows. One suggests he was reading closely before playing. The other is either bad or lazy townplay or scum pushing a flimsy narrative as best they can. Why are they related?