MAFIA XXXVIII Sign Up Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Yeah lynching the Vig, great plan.

[ghug]

One time, I had to be scum with Jamie and brain at the same time...

[Jamiet99uk]

Being scum with Brainbomb is fine. Being town with him is what's painful.

[ghug]

He went all out to get me lynched day one and somehow couldn't parlay that into enough cred to survive a few more days.

[brainbomb]

/Out

I think we can do without the game being influenced by pre planned activity.

Someone can have my slot.

Gl fam

[brainbomb]

1.Yavuzovic
2.
3. ND
4. Squigs44 (or can Co gm instead of playing if needed)
5. ChippeRock
6. bozo
7. Jamiet99uk
8. y2kjbk
9. worcej
10. Vecna
11. Ghug
12. Bo
13. damo666
14.rdrivera2005
15. snowy801
16. BismarckAlive
17. flash2015
18. Ezio
19. Darg
20. Foxcastle
21. xorxes
22. DoubtingThomas
23.

[RagingIke297]

[ghug]

Aww come on brain. You know it's all pregame bluster.

[Hellenic Riot]

1.Yavuzovic
2.
3. ND
4. Squigs44 (or can Co gm instead of playing if needed)
5. ChippeRock
6. bozo
7. Jamiet99uk
8. y2kjbk
9. worcej
10. Vecna
11. Ghug
12. Bo
13. damo666
14.rdrivera2005
15. snowy801
16. BismarckAlive
17. flash2015
18. Ezio
19. Darg
20. Foxcastle
21. xorxes
22. DoubtingThomas
23. Hellenic Riot

This should be entertaining.

[Durga]

HELLENIC RIOT!! wow what a cast

and hey ghug can you stop bullying literally everyone

[Jamiet99uk]

DO, there's one spot left if you want it?

[Durga]

no i'm in south korea

[Squigs44]

Brain, come back. You trolling Jamie was my favorite part of last game.

[Jamiet99uk]

no i'm in south korea

We're not playing this one face-to-face. You could participate using your computer.

[WarLegend]

/in to GM

[brainbomb]

1.Yavuzovic
2. Autokill slot if jamie is randed vig (brain)
3. ND
4. Squigs44 (or can Co gm instead of playing if needed)
5. ChippeRock
6. bozo
7. Jamiet99uk
8. y2kjbk
9. worcej
10. Vecna
11. Ghug
12. Bo
13. damo666
14.rdrivera2005
15. snowy801
16. BismarckAlive
17. flash2015
18. Ezio
19. Darg
20. Foxcastle
21. xorxes
22. DoubtingThomas
23. Hellenic Riot

This should be entertaining.

So I guess if you roll the game randomly whatever team im on will take an immediate handicap if juicyt rolls vig.

Good luck I guess.

[brainbomb]

If you roll Jamie as vig you should probably not even bother sending me my pm

[brainbomb]

Some rules we should consider amending on webdip.

Use of OGI and Angleshooting

"

2. Do Not Sabotage

You are expected to play to your win condition(s). Intentionally undermining your team is not allowed. Joining a game with sole intent to troll is not allowed. ("Bad" or "alternative" plays, however, are allowed, if you sincerely believe in their merit.)

Severe or repeated offenses may result in a permanent ban from Mafia Universe with no appeal."

This rule doesnt really explain what sabotage is.

Mu writes about OGI very well:

The spirit of the rule regarding OGI is essentially this: no one should ever post anything that isn't about the game that a second player could reasonably make an alignment read based on.

Frequently, it's the second-order effects that OGI has on the game that are so disruptive. Even if you personally see nothing wrong / nothing alignment indicative about asking the game host a question in the thread, or commenting on a player's online activity elsewhere, or making a read based on what someone who's in another game is doing in your game, it's the catastrophic ripple effect that discussing these things in the game thread has on game integrity that's the problem. Players can and will read into your OGI comments, and players will read into those comments, and so on, and suddenly the game is no longer self-contained, no longer actually about the game.

To be clear: Sometimes OGI will influence a read of yours. It happens to everyone. "Man, Person X is posting up a storm in this other game, but is a complete lurker here. Wonder if they randed wolf." That kind of thinking is bound to happen sometimes; it's unavoidable to a certain extent. What is completely unacceptable is publicly bringing up that read in the game thread.

~~~~~~`~~~
Angleshooting

Angleshooting is defined as doing things, or applying rules, in ways they weren't intended in order to gain an advantage in a game. In mafia, a common example of this is using OGI (out of game information) to exert public pressure or influence on the game, to publicly give reads based on OGI, or in more extreme cases, to use information acquired through illegitimate means to covertly influence a game. Angleshooting also covers all intentional uses of any flaws/quirks in the forum software / modbot in order to subvert the spirit of the game.

This definition is purposefully non-specific, because angleshooting is more of a general idea than a specific case. Generally speaking, you know it when you see it, and it can run the gamut from relatively innocent/harmless to malicious and blatant cheating.

A good rule of thumb is if you're attempting to push a game in a particular direction, and your reasons for doing so are not based on what's directly happened in the game, or meta, you're in the danger zone.

Mafia Universe is firmly against angleshooting. If you are unsure if a particular action/read is angleshooting or not, (privately) ask the game host and/or a moderator. If you encounter something in a game that you believe to be angleshooting, report the post and inform the game host, and the moderators and game host will take a look at it.

I think rule 2 should include this.

You shouldnt be able to discuss if vash is on discord, but is neglecting the game
You shouldnt make promises to influence the game based on things that are unrelated, xorxes busy in a full press game, xanthor busy slayin orcs ect.

[brainbomb]

6. All players are forbidden from cheating.

Promising to pregame kill a player is cheating. And is angleshooting.

7. All players are required to play to win.

Promising to blind hipfire someone violates rules 6 and rule 7 and is a bannable offense.

(I rest my case)

[Jamiet99uk]

Fuck you, Brainbomb, you do shit all the time that's against the spirit of your game and not advancing your win condition. Stick it up your ass.