The vote changing and her explanation of why she voting for snowy and then suddenly her town clearing of snowy seems very erratic.DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:00 amHey Sabi - I haven't played with Doom before, but the general behavioral case you've made seems pretty strong. Why do you think Doom's behavior surrounding Snowy (with the vote, switch to Kakarroto, and later explanation) is inherently scummy, and what is the scum motivation for taking this stance against someone we now know is town?
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This reads more like Doom thinking about new ways to read Snowy as opposed to contradicting her original read, at least. Don't really think it's alignment indicative outside of being part of a general pattern of seeming more overwhelmed this game.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:44 amDoom427 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:24 pm...Maybe that's how I should tell town and scum snowy apart- town snowy posts a lot, but some of those posts actually stick with me cause they're saying something and scum snowy they won't cause it they aren't. (This game I have been able to tell who snowy is)
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This game is not overwhelming at all compared to 70. Even at the most chaotic part of 70 she was a lot more collected than now. This isn't like her. You can review game 70 but anyone in 70 can back me up on this assessment of her behavior. It seems fake.DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:25 amThis reads more like Doom thinking about new ways to read Snowy as opposed to contradicting her original read, at least. Don't really think it's alignment indicative outside of being part of a general pattern of seeming more overwhelmed this game.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:44 amDoom427 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:24 pm...Maybe that's how I should tell town and scum snowy apart- town snowy posts a lot, but some of those posts actually stick with me cause they're saying something and scum snowy they won't cause it they aren't. (This game I have been able to tell who snowy is)
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I'm nearly ready to vote Doom myself, but I don't buy any of this.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:22 amThe point is her posts and reads have been erratic which was not like her at all in game 70 especially since this game is 100 times easier and calmer. The fact she "misremembered" damo is sus when doom is the type to read up a lot set up.ghug wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:21 amCan you replace all the "hmm, interesting" type comments with analysis of what you find interesting? The idea that you're presenting things with vague aspersions for others to push forward isn't great itself, and for many of the posts, I'm not actually clear what it is you're trying to call attention to.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:44 amHere's my rereading of Doom:
Here she says shes a cold bitch and doesn't react to anything yet she has a meltdown once Jamie started to question her. Hmm
This feels like the fakes townslip ever. For someone who was on the ball and sharp as a diamond before would never make a newbie mistake like this esp since they supposedly read the set up of the game.
Hmm quite interesting right?
6 minutes later she suddenly changes her mind about snowy, interesting hmmm.
Yet she voted for him earlier even tho she said his posts seemed scummy.
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I dunno she contradicts herself a lot and is making a lot of mistakes and "in so confused and overwhelmed" posts this game for someone who very obviously grasped how mafia worked very fast last game.
Like idk but this doom is very much not the same doom as last game. I rest my case.
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I just find it odd she was all in on snowy being scummy because of how his posts are, changes her mind 6 minutes later to kak and then 8 hours later says "oh well I can read snowy and he seems town". So how did his post seem scummy then suddenly she knows he isn't scummy because of his posts. Just seems very unlike doom.
I have been drinking so bear with me on this.
She was pretty all over the place last game. Moving your vote around isn't scummy and evolving your read on someone is straight up towny.
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I'm not sure why autocorrect threw a v in, since that's not English either.
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damn do I really have to look at doom's posts last game now
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Yeah, I dont have time for this atm, ill ask eden for a replacement.
sorry chaps
sorry chaps
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Ok, assuming this is true, why is she honest about being lost? Or why is she pretending to be lost? The emotional reaction is weird, but I don't see why it'd be beneficial as scum.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:27 amThis game is not overwhelming at all compared to 70. Even at the most chaotic part of 70 she was a lot more collected than now. This isn't like her. You can review game 70 but anyone in 70 can back me up on this assessment of her behavior. It seems fake.DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:25 amThis reads more like Doom thinking about new ways to read Snowy as opposed to contradicting her original read, at least. Don't really think it's alignment indicative outside of being part of a general pattern of seeming more overwhelmed this game.
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why does scum doom flip off town snowy onto kakarroto?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:27 amThis game is not overwhelming at all compared to 70. Even at the most chaotic part of 70 she was a lot more collected than now. This isn't like her. You can review game 70 but anyone in 70 can back me up on this assessment of her behavior. It seems fake.DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:25 amThis reads more like Doom thinking about new ways to read Snowy as opposed to contradicting her original read, at least. Don't really think it's alignment indicative outside of being part of a general pattern of seeming more overwhelmed this game.
also, do you believe kakarroto's claim? Does that influence how you feel about doom switching there?
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She's pulling the I'm a clueless new player act that bujny/worcej accused me of last game to get people off her scent. She also didn't freak out about being scum read in 80 but did freak out when Jamiet asked her questions.ghug wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:31 amOk, assuming this is true, why is she honest about being lost? Or why is she pretending to be lost? The emotional reaction is weird, but I don't see why it'd be beneficial as scum.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:27 amThis game is not overwhelming at all compared to 70. Even at the most chaotic part of 70 she was a lot more collected than now. This isn't like her. You can review game 70 but anyone in 70 can back me up on this assessment of her behavior. It seems fake.DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:25 am
This reads more like Doom thinking about new ways to read Snowy as opposed to contradicting her original read, at least. Don't really think it's alignment indicative outside of being part of a general pattern of seeming more overwhelmed this game.
I'm willing to bet money that she is indeed scum.
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I honestly need to look more into kako claim. I may have tunneled a bit too hard into doom so tomorrow with fresh eyes I will look into kako claim. I don't have much outside of this game info on them and it also happened before I joined the game so bear with me while I try to investigateDeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:40 amwhy does scum doom flip off town snowy onto kakarroto?BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:27 amThis game is not overwhelming at all compared to 70. Even at the most chaotic part of 70 she was a lot more collected than now. This isn't like her. You can review game 70 but anyone in 70 can back me up on this assessment of her behavior. It seems fake.DeathLlama8 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:25 am
This reads more like Doom thinking about new ways to read Snowy as opposed to contradicting her original read, at least. Don't really think it's alignment indicative outside of being part of a general pattern of seeming more overwhelmed this game.
also, do you believe kakarroto's claim? Does that influence how you feel about doom switching there?
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That whole exchange about the tracker. I got the impression that he was thinking through mechanical matters scum would have already considered on the spot, and the conclusions he was coming to weren't empathetic to the scum mindset.
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