M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Doom427]

Care to remind me your general thoughts?

Ghug and Sabi both put the least amount of voting pressure on Tom, who's our confirmed scum. So, they gotta go first. Chaqa is cop, full stop. You're Miller, really likely, Bona and WorceJ are town, pretty likely. Oracle should scan Bozo, cause who else is there to scan? I think that's the best choice.

I put the last amount of voting pressure on Tom?

Yep. I even checked the bot for all the tom* references. You said "Tom is scummy" a couple times day 1 and 2, day 4 you post the "does literally anyone townread Tom" and vote him on day 4, and then jump off him as soon as the Wagon gets to 4 votes to be on Jamie. You'll excuse me not thinking that's a strong anti-Tom play?

[BesharamSabi]

Maybe I'm wrong but your posting style when scum matches your posting style in this game including how you defend yourself and how you vote/state your opinion. Why else would I comb through game 1017 to verify/back up this claim. I actually put thought and work into this. This wasn't some hunch or what not.

Maybe you should ask Ghug to have him tell you how similar my town and scum games are when compared.

No offense meant, but I do not think any player playing their first game with me can meaningfully tell the difference, especially not by comparing it to a single game as scum.

Ill not hold it against you if you stick to this opinion, and I wont join this wagon against you because I think your reasons come from a good place, but do me the courtesy of confirming whether what im saying is true or not.

Id also like snowy to answer if I defend myself this close to the vest when im scum or not.

I'd recommend you look at a town game too, Sabi.

@vecna @ghug which game number was his town games?

[Vecna]

No I mean bozo from M69

Sorry I guess you weren't there shit was wild and he won us the fucking game

That’s cool. I don’t like heroes in a team game. I like people doing their jobs. I think things are going well for town and I don’t intend to screw it up.

He wasn't being a hero he just destroyed Vecna (and by proxy me, who was townclear) with a stupendous barrage facts and logic

Mind you some of the facts and logic were off but it was still amazing, and the best anyone could intuit given the circumstances

Bro, he just repeatedly stated "this play youre doing also furthers your wincon if youre 3P".

See, youre doing a Durga here. Next game you'll be expecting the universe from Bozo while he just showed you Missouri.

[Vecna]

(also, welcome to the club of mediocre meta-players Snowy. hurrah)

[BunnyGo]

That’s cool. I don’t like heroes in a team game. I like people doing their jobs. I think things are going well for town and I don’t intend to screw it up.

He wasn't being a hero he just destroyed Vecna (and by proxy me, who was townclear) with a stupendous barrage facts and logic

Mind you some of the facts and logic were off but it was still amazing, and the best anyone could intuit given the circumstances

Bro, he just repeatedly stated "this play youre doing also furthers your wincon if youre 3P".

See, youre doing a Durga here. Next game you'll be expecting the universe from Bozo while he just showed you Missouri.

It’s the show me state

[BunnyGo]

I miss Flum. He’s be riding chill right now.

That’s all we need. Chill.

[Vecna]

Maybe you should ask Ghug to have him tell you how similar my town and scum games are when compared.

No offense meant, but I do not think any player playing their first game with me can meaningfully tell the difference, especially not by comparing it to a single game as scum.

Ill not hold it against you if you stick to this opinion, and I wont join this wagon against you because I think your reasons come from a good place, but do me the courtesy of confirming whether what im saying is true or not.

Id also like snowy to answer if I defend myself this close to the vest when im scum or not.

I'd recommend you look at a town game too, Sabi.

@vecna @ghug which game number was his town games?

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=1018

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=66

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=65

[ghug]

Ghug and Sabi both put the least amount of voting pressure on Tom, who's our confirmed scum. So, they gotta go first. Chaqa is cop, full stop. You're Miller, really likely, Bona and WorceJ are town, pretty likely. Oracle should scan Bozo, cause who else is there to scan? I think that's the best choice.

I put the last amount of voting pressure on Tom?

Yep. I even checked the bot for all the tom* references. You said "Tom is scummy" a couple times day 1 and 2, day 4 you post the "does literally anyone townread Tom" and vote him on day 4, and then jump off him as soon as the Wagon gets to 4 votes to be on Jamie. You'll excuse me not thinking that's a strong anti-Tom play?

I'd say I was one of the strongest Tom pushers from day 4 until his death.

[BunnyGo]

@Doom are you feeling what I’m saying? You’ve had some solid and clear posts.

[BesharamSabi]

I'd recommend you look at a town game too, Sabi.

@vecna @ghug which game number was his town games?

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=1018

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=66

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=65

Thank you. Going to read through these now.

Brb

[snowy801]

(also, welcome to the club of mediocre meta-players Snowy. hurrah)

If it were a meta read it would literally be (he's not like he was scum/3P -> town)

I'm not the one bringing meta into this, you (and I guess worcej started it) are

[snowy801]

@snowy: the desire to DO SOMETHING is not in our favor here. Just chill. Sit back. And wait. That’s the fact.

I'm literally not doing anything except playing the game

What, do you want to no kill?

[snowy801]

That’s cool. I don’t like heroes in a team game. I like people doing their jobs. I think things are going well for town and I don’t intend to screw it up.

He wasn't being a hero he just destroyed Vecna (and by proxy me, who was townclear) with a stupendous barrage facts and logic

Mind you some of the facts and logic were off but it was still amazing, and the best anyone could intuit given the circumstances

Bro, he just repeatedly stated "this play youre doing also furthers your wincon if youre 3P".

See, youre doing a Durga here. Next game you'll be expecting the universe from Bozo while he just showed you Missouri.

I don't think anyone not in my position could've understood the rush of understanding bozo slammed into my head in that sequence of posts.

But a conversation for later, I concede.

[ghug]

Maybe you should ask Ghug to have him tell you how similar my town and scum games are when compared.

No offense meant, but I do not think any player playing their first game with me can meaningfully tell the difference, especially not by comparing it to a single game as scum.

Ill not hold it against you if you stick to this opinion, and I wont join this wagon against you because I think your reasons come from a good place, but do me the courtesy of confirming whether what im saying is true or not.

Id also like snowy to answer if I defend myself this close to the vest when im scum or not.

I'd recommend you look at a town game too, Sabi.

@vecna @ghug which game number was his town games?

1018

65 is a big game where he lived a long time.

[Vecna]

I do concede that shit doesn't make sense, but I argue that if for whatever reason PoE gets wiped out and the game doesn't end, which I'm finding more and more likely, there's still going to be like at most 2 scum and they can choose who to kill then and there

No reason to doubt our chosen path yet

Also, we dont have that long. The poe is realistically 7 people, right. By the time we kill all those, scum will have won.

The most likely scenario: scum kill doom tonight, same situation tomorrow, minus 1 in the poe pool.

Then 3 full phases later, we'll be left with Chaqa, TFB, and 4 people in the Poe pool. Thatll be your milo most likely.

Are you really feeling confident we'll have won this game before that situation? I really dont think you feel its as easy as killing me. You know I wouldve just conceded that situation. Even if its me and someone else.....who could realistically be my partner for me to feel it worthwhile putting up any sort of fight? Surely only Worcej + Bona?

I think so?
I did the math before but it's on my home PC I might have time to share it before day ends

Also worcej + bona are who I think of as my most solid town clears so eh

Maybe you're right but I dunno I don't think I would concede here so I'm not inclined to wifom on whether anyone else would, even if you admittedly have done so in the past

But this all begs the question: if not you then who? You don't seem particularly sold on rdrivera, and neither am I. Do you want to start flipping PRs now? What's your solution to this current game?

If you had full control of all the votes from now to the end of the game, who would you vote out and why?

Rdrivera - Ghug - Either you or PE, maybe both - TFB - Chaqa

Not sure if thatd be the order.

Probably Chaqa earlier if he continues to live.

And then id probably be punked by Kgray

[ghug]

He wasn't being a hero he just destroyed Vecna (and by proxy me, who was townclear) with a stupendous barrage facts and logic

Mind you some of the facts and logic were off but it was still amazing, and the best anyone could intuit given the circumstances

Bro, he just repeatedly stated "this play youre doing also furthers your wincon if youre 3P".

See, youre doing a Durga here. Next game you'll be expecting the universe from Bozo while he just showed you Missouri.

I don't think anyone not in my position could've understood the rush of understanding bozo slammed into my head in that sequence of posts.

But a conversation for later, I concede.

Snowy conceded! gg

[snowy801]

Also answer my question Vecna

But this all begs the question: if not you then who? You don't seem particularly sold on rdrivera, and neither am I. Do you want to start flipping PRs now? What's your solution to this current game?

If you had full control of all the votes from now to the end of the game, who would you vote out and why?

[BunnyGo]

@snowy: the desire to DO SOMETHING is not in our favor here. Just chill. Sit back. And wait. That’s the fact.

I'm literally not doing anything except playing the game

What, do you want to no kill?

No. I want the obvious non-galaxy brain kill

[snowy801]

Never mind sorry cross post

[snowy801]

@snowy: the desire to DO SOMETHING is not in our favor here. Just chill. Sit back. And wait. That’s the fact.

I'm literally not doing anything except playing the game

What, do you want to no kill?

No. I want the obvious non-galaxy brain kill

...which includes Vecna or rdrivera, yes?