M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

You know this might be an unfair thing to say but it always pisses me off when I see lfischl online so often recently.

What compels a man to be more active when dead than alive?

It still cracks me up that some of y'all thought I made up the PR read on him to bait mafia into nightkilling him

I thought it was pure brilliance and town read you so hard for that

[snowy801]

Get your VT hard claims ready because all you fuckers are next

[President Eden]

Reviewing things cuz I might not be around for EOD...

100% Don't Kill
Chaqa - Cop
worcej - Doctor
TheFlyingBoat - JOAT
BunnyGo - Miller
ghug - Oracle
Bonatogether - confirmed VT
me

Almost Certainly Don't Kill
Durga - not confirmed VT, but I don't really see a world where she spends so much time pushing her teammates early in a no-flip game. Kind of agree that she's slid into the background a bit at times, but it's a massive game and there have been several natural lulls in the action because it's a no-flip game, so can't really fault it.
Doom - new player, too earnest, don't see it
Sabi - likewise

And as I type this I realize that's just a POE lol! It's 11-2 at worst after tonight and the only people left that I think it even could possibly be are rivera, Vecna, kgray and snowy. We even get at least one day to step back and think if all 4 of those are misses.

[President Eden]

I guess I shouldn't be so lazy as to not type up a preference list

snowy until he solves it > rivera > Vecna until he solves it > snowy after he solves it > Vecna after he solves it > kgray > panic

[BesharamSabi]

Get your VT hard claims ready because all you fuckers are next

Wait are we being serious about hardclaiming VT?

[ghug]

Get your VT hard claims ready because all you fuckers are next

Wait are we being serious about hardclaiming VT?

No

[President Eden]

Get your VT hard claims ready because all you fuckers are next

Wait are we being serious about hardclaiming VT?

if y'all view this in Normal Mode instead of Dark Mode, you can see "I am the Cop" in colored text not visible in Dark Mode

[ghug]

Get your VT hard claims ready because all you fuckers are next

Wait are we being serious about hardclaiming VT?

if y'all view this in Normal Mode instead of Dark Mode, you can see "I am the Cop" in colored text not visible in Dark Mode

Dark mode doesn't give the red icon for unread messages, so it's unusable.

[BunnyGo]

Get your VT hard claims ready because all you fuckers are next

Wait are we being serious about hardclaiming VT?

No

[President Eden]

Wait are we being serious about hardclaiming VT?

if y'all view this in Normal Mode instead of Dark Mode, you can see "I am the Cop" in colored text not visible in Dark Mode

Dark mode doesn't give the red icon for unread messages, so it's unusable.

Counterpoint: Researchers have proven that use of Normal Mode is scum-indicative.

[ghug]

if y'all view this in Normal Mode instead of Dark Mode, you can see "I am the Cop" in colored text not visible in Dark Mode

Dark mode doesn't give the red icon for unread messages, so it's unusable.

Counterpoint: Researchers have proven that use of Normal Mode is scum-indicative.

Well, I was scum that game.

[rdrivera2005]

I guess I shouldn't be so lazy as to not type up a preference list

snowy until he solves it > rivera > Vecna until he solves it > snowy after he solves it > Vecna after he solves it > kgray > panic

Why there isn't rivera until he solves it?
I have solved this game a long time ago, it's Bozo, Tom, Kgray and Sabi. If I am wrong on Sabi it's probably Ghug or Jasnah was scum. The end.

[kgray]

I guess I shouldn't be so lazy as to not type up a preference list

snowy until he solves it > rivera > Vecna until he solves it > snowy after he solves it > Vecna after he solves it > kgray > panic

Why there isn't rivera until he solves it?
I have solved this game a long time ago, it's Bozo, Tom, Kgray and Sabi. If I am wrong on Sabi it's probably Ghug or Jasnah was scum. The end.

And since you're wrong on me? What's that backup plan?

[Bonatogether]

I think Snowy or Kgray has to be the Godfather if mafia was going with a "let Chaqa scan the Godfather" plan

Also, why would scum bank on you scanning snowy? You've been saying he's obvscum and you said early you'd rather scan an "unknown" so there's no way they'd assume you were going to scan him.

No idea why you still insist you wouldn't have scanned ghug, but it's more likely that ghug or Rivera is GF than me or snowy based on the (my) GF theory.

Cause I think ghug is the Oracle

I don't see any real reason to not be open about this, my read is no more valid than anyone else's and if mafia shoots ghug that's a win for us.

why would you say this

[worcej]

I'm supervising today and not at my computer as much as normal, so I may miss the phase change.

My save is entered. Interesting to see what scum allow to happen going forward.

I'm feeling pretty good about Durga being the next flip we need to process. I did a quick look at Tom after the bozo one and I again don't see any pushes but just some random comments about his style.

D1 she mentioned him twice.
D2 she says 'let's not get Tom' near EOD when his wagon is growing.
D3 gets annoyed at the shade on him and also questions rdr's vote on Tom.
N3 responds to Tom's questions, doesn't provide a read
D4 first actual scum read, but is grouped in ghug and Jamie too. Votes him when it doesn't matter and end up on Jamie
N4 nothing about Tom.

I see no real push here either - so her saying she did so in response to Vecna is not true.

I totally stand by not getting Tom d2 and I was scum reading rdr. Call it "when it doesn't matter" because it didn't pan out but who the fuck would vote for their teammate when they can vote for town. Me being scum is contingent on me (whether you like it or not) sussing and voting two of my scum mates and that's just ridiculous. I don't even bus and starting on a no flip game would be insane.

I know you claim you don't bus and I'm fairly sure this is true, but in a no flip game it would be the best time to bus because it's next to impossible to tie it back to anyone.

And your votes for bozo and tom were in CC mode and guilty scan claim - these are typical times you want to be amongst the town.

Anyways, like I tried to point out, you said this to Vecna:

K I can go on and on about how I pushed bozo and Tom and défended Chaqa when it mattered too, this isn't a competition. Your para on having a townread on kgray and others is weird too. Like so? Congrats you have reads?

And I was pretty when I saw it because my memory was that you didn't do much pushing of Bozo or Tom and it turns out my memory was correct.

I wouldn't give you any credit for making a real case against either of these guys and, if you did deserve credit, it would be more like reads, which you just gave Vecna shit for.

[BunnyGo]

if y'all view this in Normal Mode instead of Dark Mode, you can see "I am the Cop" in colored text not visible in Dark Mode

Dark mode doesn't give the red icon for unread messages, so it's unusable.

Counterpoint: Researchers have proven that use of Normal Mode is scum-indicative.

Said by a scum team member.

[President Eden]

I guess I shouldn't be so lazy as to not type up a preference list

snowy until he solves it > rivera > Vecna until he solves it > snowy after he solves it > Vecna after he solves it > kgray > panic

Why there isn't rivera until he solves it?
I have solved this game a long time ago, it's Bozo, Tom, Kgray and Sabi. If I am wrong on Sabi it's probably Ghug or Jasnah was scum. The end.

Walk me through your read on Sabi then

[Vecna]

@Vecna it's because after you did those very probably true and towny things you haven't proposed a single thing about how to move forward in the game. Not one scum read, not a single defense of who you think is incorrectly being PoE'd. The only real opinion of note you proposed was that Chaqa may yet be scum, but you haven't done anything to show why this is true or explain how to progress the game wary of this reality

All game since like day 1 you've been looking backwards not forwards.

Theres actually not a single truth in this entire post

[President Eden]

Also, why would scum bank on you scanning snowy? You've been saying he's obvscum and you said early you'd rather scan an "unknown" so there's no way they'd assume you were going to scan him.

No idea why you still insist you wouldn't have scanned ghug, but it's more likely that ghug or Rivera is GF than me or snowy based on the (my) GF theory.

Cause I think ghug is the Oracle

I don't see any real reason to not be open about this, my read is no more valid than anyone else's and if mafia shoots ghug that's a win for us.

why would you say this

I mean it's just obviously true, no reason to dance around it anymore lol.

[worcej]

I'm supervising today and not at my computer as much as normal, so I may miss the phase change.

My save is entered. Interesting to see what scum allow to happen going forward.

I'm feeling pretty good about Durga being the next flip we need to process. I did a quick look at Tom after the bozo one and I again don't see any pushes but just some random comments about his style.

D1 she mentioned him twice.
D2 she says 'let's not get Tom' near EOD when his wagon is growing.
D3 gets annoyed at the shade on him and also questions rdr's vote on Tom.
N3 responds to Tom's questions, doesn't provide a read
D4 first actual scum read, but is grouped in ghug and Jamie too. Votes him when it doesn't matter and end up on Jamie
N4 nothing about Tom.

I see no real push here either - so her saying she did so in response to Vecna is not true.

I totally stand by not getting Tom d2 and I was scum reading rdr. Call it "when it doesn't matter" because it didn't pan out but who the fuck would vote for their teammate when they can vote for town. Me being scum is contingent on me (whether you like it or not) sussing and voting two of my scum mates and that's just ridiculous. I don't even bus and starting on a no flip game would be insane.

I feel like Durga's voting pattern D2 says more to town read than anything her comments on Tom might say to scum read her no? She was critical to the bozo claim.

(this is @worcej I guess)

I agree, but it seemed like the claim and then CC from me was a line of demarcation where she switched into actually pushing bozo. Tom never really got a push, just some comments about his game play and shock that he was in the game.

Maybe it's my own thought process, but a 'push' is actually presenting material and examples of how someone is scummy. Just saying something a couple times and parking votes when others are already there isn't a push.