M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[BesharamSabi]

Anyone want to join me in reading Flum posts from day 3 and see what made mafia wanna kee kee him? Like I didn't get a PR vibe from him. I honestly thought rdr or Tom would have been NK but oh whale.

If Chaqa is Cop, Fluminator is guaranteed TV and has to die anyway, and I guess they want to get us paranoid about Chaqa to kill him.

If Chaqa is mafia, then killing Fluminator further reinforces the narrative that Chaqa is Cop.

Regardless, Fluminator was out of the POE.

Ahh OK. So mafia, who ever they may or may not be, is trying to set up Chaqa as the fall guy for Flum being unalived. Ok I see.

[kgray]

What if it's just Tom and Chaqa left and this is their way of giving up?

Yeah I thought maybe it was Snowy and Rivera and Tom who just want the game to end

[President Eden]

Anyone want to join me in reading Flum posts from day 3 and see what made mafia wanna kee kee him? Like I didn't get a PR vibe from him. I honestly thought rdr or Tom would have been NK but oh whale.

If Chaqa is Cop, Fluminator is guaranteed TV and has to die anyway, and I guess they want to get us paranoid about Chaqa to kill him.

If Chaqa is mafia, then killing Fluminator further reinforces the narrative that Chaqa is Cop.

Regardless, Fluminator was out of the POE.

Does it reinforce that narrative, though?

It at least superficially does, that was the first reaction some people had until Chaqa claimed no roleblock.

[BesharamSabi]

Why did you think Rivera or Tom would have been the NK?

Theory on low post count people being night killed. I mentioned it Friday morning that I would be surprised if either weren't the night kill basing it off that theory. The fact they took a high post count person is not matching this pattern....

Oh, gotcha. Typically scum want to NK townies who are unlikely to be DK'd. So killing Tom or Rivera in this game, if they're town, wouldn't make a lot of sense because they are pretty high on most people's kill list.

Has rdr been a wagon tho? I can't recall.

[kgray]

Theory on low post count people being night killed. I mentioned it Friday morning that I would be surprised if either weren't the night kill basing it off that theory. The fact they took a high post count person is not matching this pattern....

Oh, gotcha. Typically scum want to NK townies who are unlikely to be DK'd. So killing Tom or Rivera in this game, if they're town, wouldn't make a lot of sense because they are pretty high on most people's kill list.

Has rdr been a wagon tho? I can't recall.

No, but he's on a lot of people's short list.

[ghug]

If Chaqa is Cop, Fluminator is guaranteed TV and has to die anyway, and I guess they want to get us paranoid about Chaqa to kill him.

If Chaqa is mafia, then killing Fluminator further reinforces the narrative that Chaqa is Cop.

Regardless, Fluminator was out of the POE.

Does it reinforce that narrative, though?

It at least superficially does, that was the first reaction some people had until Chaqa claimed no roleblock.

My problem here is that Chaqa's not stupid either.

[Durga]

for someone who has had a fake claim against him tom really isn't too bothered eh

[Chaqa]

It's a difficult game with incredibly strange plays. If you're not scum faking then quit being such an arrogant fuck and work with your teammates for fuck's sake.

It's hard when half your teammates don't want to work with you.

If you're town you literally lied to me about out of game circumstances to try to garner sympathy instead of logically engaging me about my concerns, then you've engaged in literal gaslighting - as much as you like to abuse that word in incorrect circumstances, pretending there's no reason to be suspicious or concerned about your claims is actual gaslighting - instead of trying to work with me and others. Take a look in the fucking mirror.

I did not lie about out of game circumstances. I forgot we played one SHORT game of Clank where I was fuming the entire time. You don't know shit about how I'm feeling. I'm stressed the fuck out from IRL stuff and then this mafia game has been constant 100% pressure from Day fucking 1.

I've been trying to work with everyone. I have one of the highest post counts and I've made significant reads on people.

On Day 2 I posted this:

I very much dislike the worcej wagon. Throw me in the list of "worc knights" or w/e lol

I quite agree with the takes on Bozo. He feels very fake, too calm, and not at all himself this game. I'm pretty sure he's rolled scum. He also was one of the last people to cast a vote Day 1, which is something I've found to be scum-indicative (tom did it today too).

Jansah-Bozo-Tom-??? scumteam, calling my shot

I'm still pretty confident on that, and that Tom is #3. This game is nearly over. Snowy is probably the last one, and is probably godfather, since I bet mafia thought I would scan him and clear him.

If you can't see why I'm frustrated and angry then man like I don't understand you

[Doom427]

NK Flum makes perfect sense, Flum is a Town Clear no matter what. Role blocking WorceJ to kill Flum?!?!? I get not wanting a second worceJ clear, but....... It's so obviously dumb, I'm not even going to argue against it. It makes no sense. I guess they were hoping Chaqa... Got a vanilla town and not a scum? Ok, this game is fucking crazy again, oh my god. But... Our move is pretty basic ain't it? Vote Tom, until a counter claim happens?

##Vote Tom

[BunnyGo]

I mean, my only thought is that Chaqa knows he cannot last forever and wanted to guarantee a kill because he is afraid of a counterclaim.

If we don’t get one I have to believe that jasnah was cop and just an idiot.

I’m half tempted to pay off to that. It’s sooooo awful, that I don’t want to play for it.

[Bonatogether]

Anyone want to join me in reading Flum posts from day 3 and see what made mafia wanna kee kee him? Like I didn't get a PR vibe from him. I honestly thought rdr or Tom would have been NK but oh whale.

bc flum is brilliant and beautiful and would never have gotten daykilled, i guess

But it's not fitting the pattern of the night kills theory. He's a high post count person.

Scum have to kill outside the POE cause they need us to be dking in the POE as long as possible to avoid us finding any deep scum.

[President Eden]

Does it reinforce that narrative, though?

It at least superficially does, that was the first reaction some people had until Chaqa claimed no roleblock.

My problem here is that Chaqa's not stupid either.

I agree. Sabi's right, it's probably worth looking into Fluminator a bit more. There were actual clears out there after all...

[Doom427]

NK Flum makes perfect sense, Flum is a Town Clear no matter what. Role blocking WorceJ to kill Flum?!?!? I get not wanting a second worceJ clear, but....... It's so obviously dumb, I'm not even going to argue against it. It makes no sense. I guess they were hoping Chaqa... Got a vanilla town and not a scum? Ok, this game is fucking crazy again, oh my god. But... Our move is pretty basic ain't it? Vote Tom, until a counter claim happens?

##Vote Tom

Also, remember what I said earlier about Tom being a great Oracle target?!?!? You remember Oracle person?!?!? Guess who's an even better oracle target now that it gives us Day 2 info AND tells us Chaqa's alignment.... Guess it's a good thing we waited?

[ghug]

NK Flum makes perfect sense, Flum is a Town Clear no matter what. Role blocking WorceJ to kill Flum?!?!? I get not wanting a second worceJ clear, but....... It's so obviously dumb, I'm not even going to argue against it. It makes no sense. I guess they were hoping Chaqa... Got a vanilla town and not a scum? Ok, this game is fucking crazy again, oh my god. But... Our move is pretty basic ain't it? Vote Tom, until a counter claim happens?

##Vote Tom

Strong scum vibes from this post.

[Durga]

##end

can we speed run this game and get to a normal mafia game

[BesharamSabi]

It at least superficially does, that was the first reaction some people had until Chaqa claimed no roleblock.

My problem here is that Chaqa's not stupid either.

I agree. Sabi's right, it's probably worth looking into Fluminator a bit more. There were actual clears out there after all...

Thank you. I feel like we moved way too quickly on why flum was unalived. Haven't even dissected his posts from d3 yet.

[Durga]

NK Flum makes perfect sense, Flum is a Town Clear no matter what. Role blocking WorceJ to kill Flum?!?!? I get not wanting a second worceJ clear, but....... It's so obviously dumb, I'm not even going to argue against it. It makes no sense. I guess they were hoping Chaqa... Got a vanilla town and not a scum? Ok, this game is fucking crazy again, oh my god. But... Our move is pretty basic ain't it? Vote Tom, until a counter claim happens?

##Vote Tom

Strong scum vibes from this post.

How? :S

[Bonatogether]

I think we should still go with our strategy of killing in the PoE, then Chaqa at earliest possible lylo (d9)

[President Eden]

It's hard when half your teammates don't want to work with you.

If you're town you literally lied to me about out of game circumstances to try to garner sympathy instead of logically engaging me about my concerns, then you've engaged in literal gaslighting - as much as you like to abuse that word in incorrect circumstances, pretending there's no reason to be suspicious or concerned about your claims is actual gaslighting - instead of trying to work with me and others. Take a look in the fucking mirror.

I did not lie about out of game circumstances. I forgot we played one SHORT game of Clank where I was fuming the entire time. You don't know shit about how I'm feeling. I'm stressed the fuck out from IRL stuff and then this mafia game has been constant 100% pressure from Day fucking 1.

I've been trying to work with everyone. I have one of the highest post counts and I've made significant reads on people.

On Day 2 I posted this:

I very much dislike the worcej wagon. Throw me in the list of "worc knights" or w/e lol

I quite agree with the takes on Bozo. He feels very fake, too calm, and not at all himself this game. I'm pretty sure he's rolled scum. He also was one of the last people to cast a vote Day 1, which is something I've found to be scum-indicative (tom did it today too).

Jansah-Bozo-Tom-??? scumteam, calling my shot

I'm still pretty confident on that, and that Tom is #3. This game is nearly over. Snowy is probably the last one, and is probably godfather, since I bet mafia thought I would scan him and clear him.

If you can't see why I'm frustrated and angry then man like I don't understand you

Well I know you WEREN'T fuming the entire time and thus that you're STILL lying about it, probably out of foolish pride rather than any scum theater at this point. Whatever your alignment, you've consistently chosen dishonest, manipulative engagement with me. If you're town, you've done so instead of working with me as your teammate. It's your own fucking fault that that hasn't resulted in the outcome you wanted.

[Durga]

I think we should still go with our strategy of killing in the PoE, then Chaqa at earliest possible lylo (d9)

yeah i like this bona