M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

I'm not sure I'm capable of being obviously town, snowy.

The fact im not at all suspicious of you, or finding any reasons to be suspicious of you, is probably a bad sign lmao

Everyone else is, though.

Third thought, then im done with quoting this post; You do tend to appeal to me though when you feel death is imminent (as scum).

[Chaqa]

I checked my horoscope and it said that Mercury is in refrigerator and we should kill snowy

[ghug]

I'm gonna try to do a bit of rereading tomorrow but does anyone recall how ghug acted around bozo d1. I do feel like ghug is probably scum

But I've agreed with almost every post he's made this game. That used to be my way to townread him consistently. (Although there's been a few town games of his recently where I thought he was scum a little)

I feel like it's kinda easy to agree with all his posts when the only thing he's done so far is scum read kgray?

This is inaccurate

[ghug]

Go get tested ffs

That involves driving to a place and waiting in line when I could instead quarantine on my bed.

Do they not have drive through testing where you are?

Not everyone can drive.

[Chaqa]

My revised PoE:
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ghug
Jamiet99uk
kgray
rdrivera2005
snowy801
Tom Bombadil
Vecna

I think all remaining scum are in that group. In order of likelihood:

Snowy / Rivera > ghug > kgray > Tom/Vecna > Jamie

[ghug]

The fact im not at all suspicious of you, or finding any reasons to be suspicious of you, is probably a bad sign lmao

Everyone else is, though.

I mean, the hivemind has been pretty decent in killing you as scum. Not in the last 3 games, but in the stretch of 5 games before those give or take.

My scum game is bimodal. Either I crash and burn early or I lead like six miskills and then convince Jamie not to kill me at final 3.

[Vecna]

Wait how am I just noticing that Vecna didn't leave bozo's wagon when he claimed and only moved to Tom once worcej claimed?

Why are people suddenly forgetting that during those last 2 minutes produced like 2 full pages in ~ 60 seconds.

I never even saw Worcej's claim untill the day was over.

As I said many times before, I voted Tom B because as my refresh (on the bot) landed he was the vote to save Worcej.

No, I mean you were on bozo for ~4 minutes after his doc claim and didn't react to it. People were even talking about it for a couple pages afterwards, deciding whether or not they believed him. You avoided/ignored/missed all of that and kept your vote there. It's pretty weird.

I was debating whether I believed his shit and I was never voting Worcej.

This is not weird. Sometimes you need to try a bit harder and try to see things from other peoples perspectives.

[Vecna]

Oh and I think Vecna looks bad too, but you said he was 2nd worst, so I didn't include him.

You were actually present when we discussed my ending on Tom B much earlier, and you were completely agreeing that it was a fine process/reasoning.

How come this is suddenly different?

I don't mind you ending on Tom Bomb, I think it's weird how long it took you to get there. I voted Tom immediately when I saw bozo's claim.

I was never going to unvote Bozo if Worcej didnt come into danger, thats the difference between us.

[Vecna]

I don't mind you ending on Tom Bomb, I think it's weird how long it took you to get there. I voted Tom immediately when I saw bozo's claim.

How is it weird? I was sticking on Bozo, untill my refresh showed the wagons were 7-7 Worcej/tom (or 8-6, im not sure what moment it was exactly).

So I had to switch to tom to save Worcej.

Did you not see bozo's claim or did you not believe it?

I saw it, and I saw Bona stating to "get him"

Then I started to spam refresh on the thread and the bot to try and see whether worcej was coming into danger.

[BunnyGo]

Missed a comma.

Kill Bona, or kill Chaqa while RBing worcej. If they kill Bona the RB goes on Chaqa.

They were worried about JOAT too...right?

Maybe worried about JOAT Docsave, sure. That's a good point. Of course, if they think JOAT saves Bona (he ostensibly didn't, judging from the MMXVII post), they can still shoot Chaqa and rb worcej. If they wanted to go a little more out-there out of fear of getting dunked twice in a row, they could shoot you, or a widely townread but not mech clear person like Durga.

lfischl just reeks of PR hunting or looking like PR hunting to me based on the fact that we (well Chaqa and I) talked so much about him looking like a PR.

Ok. And you expect them to keep the same strategy tonight?

[Vecna]

Sabi knows this I think hahah. They know this guy I introduced to f2f through tinder

was it morgante?

Lol wtf no, it was Tommy, we matched when I was in Boston and messaged him to check out the local Boston hobby and then at my next tournament he was there my recruitment worked

Holy shit, Durga's tinder profile got me into the top5 of vdl

[kgray]

Yeah I mean maybe I'm just not seeing your perspective but I feel like if your whole goal was to save worcej, then helping form a counterwagon to get momentum to go somewhere that isn't worcej is more helpful than staying on a PR claimant. It was absolutely not clear at the time that bozo would still be a viable wagon when the day ended, and in fact if hadn't claimed worcej's exact role, then he probably wouldn't have been.

[BunnyGo]

That involves driving to a place and waiting in line when I could instead quarantine on my bed.

Do they not have drive through testing where you are?

Not everyone can drive.

But he said he could…

[BunnyGo]

How is it weird? I was sticking on Bozo, untill my refresh showed the wagons were 7-7 Worcej/tom (or 8-6, im not sure what moment it was exactly).

So I had to switch to tom to save Worcej.

Did you not see bozo's claim or did you not believe it?

I saw it, and I saw Bona stating to "get him"

Then I started to spam refresh on the thread and the bot to try and see whether worcej was coming into danger.

Why did you townread worcej?

[President Eden]

They were worried about JOAT too...right?

Maybe worried about JOAT Docsave, sure. That's a good point. Of course, if they think JOAT saves Bona (he ostensibly didn't, judging from the MMXVII post), they can still shoot Chaqa and rb worcej. If they wanted to go a little more out-there out of fear of getting dunked twice in a row, they could shoot you, or a widely townread but not mech clear person like Durga.

lfischl just reeks of PR hunting or looking like PR hunting to me based on the fact that we (well Chaqa and I) talked so much about him looking like a PR.

Ok. And you expect them to keep the same strategy tonight?

I don't know what to expect from them. This entire exchange started with "if."

[ghug]

Yeah I mean maybe I'm just not seeing your perspective but I feel like if your whole goal was to save worcej, then helping form a counterwagon to get momentum to go somewhere that isn't worcej is more helpful than staying on a PR claimant. It was absolutely not clear at the time that bozo would still be a viable wagon when the day ended, and in fact if hadn't claimed worcej's exact role, then he probably wouldn't have been.

You voted for Tom twice at that EoD, and when asked, couldn't explain why. Taking that at face value, why is it hard to imagine other town players could have acted suboptimally or inexplicably at the same time?

[ghug]

Do they not have drive through testing where you are?

Not everyone can drive.

But he said he could…

He kind of implied it, I guess?

All I know is that it's really frustrating when you've been exposed and can't get a test anywhere unless you want to expose a loved one who offers a ride (or don't have such a loved one at all).

[kgray]

You were actually present when we discussed my ending on Tom B much earlier, and you were completely agreeing that it was a fine process/reasoning.

How come this is suddenly different?

I don't mind you ending on Tom Bomb, I think it's weird how long it took you to get there. I voted Tom immediately when I saw bozo's claim.

I was never going to unvote Bozo if Worcej didnt come into danger, thats the difference between us.

But why though? You said you were debating on whether or not you believed bozo, so I don't understand what worcej coming into danger has to do with anything or why you wouldn't try to get momentum going for a non-worcej, non-PR claimant wagon.

Some people moved to TFB after bozo's claim, and you had said you were getting suspicious of him just a few minutes prior. Why not move there?

[kgray]

Yeah I mean maybe I'm just not seeing your perspective but I feel like if your whole goal was to save worcej, then helping form a counterwagon to get momentum to go somewhere that isn't worcej is more helpful than staying on a PR claimant. It was absolutely not clear at the time that bozo would still be a viable wagon when the day ended, and in fact if hadn't claimed worcej's exact role, then he probably wouldn't have been.

You voted for Tom twice at that EoD, and when asked, couldn't explain why. Taking that at face value, why is it hard to imagine other town players could have acted suboptimally or inexplicably at the same time?

It is not hard to imagine other townies acting suboptimally right at EOD. It was chaos. Worcej himself didn't even end up on bozo lmao. My concern about Vecna is the ~3 minutes between bozo's claim and worcej's CC. I don't see how Vecna's inaction during that time logically follows his stated goals of figuring out if he believed bozo's claim and protecting worcej.

[ghug]

Yeah I mean maybe I'm just not seeing your perspective but I feel like if your whole goal was to save worcej, then helping form a counterwagon to get momentum to go somewhere that isn't worcej is more helpful than staying on a PR claimant. It was absolutely not clear at the time that bozo would still be a viable wagon when the day ended, and in fact if hadn't claimed worcej's exact role, then he probably wouldn't have been.

You voted for Tom twice at that EoD, and when asked, couldn't explain why. Taking that at face value, why is it hard to imagine other town players could have acted suboptimally or inexplicably at the same time?

It is not hard to imagine other townies acting suboptimally right at EOD. It was chaos. Worcej himself didn't even end up on bozo lmao. My concern about Vecna is the ~3 minutes between bozo's claim and worcej's CC. I don't see how Vecna's inaction during that time logically follows his stated goals of figuring out if he believed bozo's claim and protecting worcej.

Fair enough.

Why do you think I'm more likely to hound you incessantly with a scumread for reasons you think are irrational and poorly thought out as scum than as town?