M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

I could see a world in which TFB is scum

Why?

[ghug]

Sabi is in early, and starts talking and asking questions, but never once addresses bozo. They addresses TFB for calling bozo's idea dumb and says he wants to just kill people.

Now, if Sabi knows TFB and Bona and kgray from elsewhere, I guess it might make sense to ignore everyone but who they knows.

But I'm reconsidering my Sabi townlean based on the first few pages.

RL issues causing availability gaps aside, I honestly cannot understand why anyone has a town vibe from Sabi in this game anymore. Sabi's posts have mostly been non-value adding and no real effort to scum hunt. Mostly little jokes here and there.

And before anyone says it: Sabi isn't a noob. Sabi has played mafia on discord and knows how this game works.

They're clearly going through some shit right now, and this game is hard to keep up with. That seems like a perfectly plausible explanation for their behavior the past few days.

[TheFlyingBoat]

It is not mentioned in the master rules post and DemonRHK did not indicate a game-specific ruling on it, therefore it should be assumed not to be banned.

encryption rule?

That rule isn't catch all for all encryption as my steganography was allowed.

Wait out of curiosity since I'm not familiar with this rule, what counts as encryption per the rules? Does a rot1 or rot13 cipher count? Because if so some of the let's get this bread stuff was against the rules. What transfiguration of the letters counts and as encryption and what doesn't? If I let's say performed some operation to turn letters to numbers and ran a modulo on it would that count as rule breaking? Or would I actually need to run some well known encryption algorithm for it to count?

[ghug]

I could see a world in which TFB is scum

Why?

Never mind, I read this as "can't" before.

[ghug]

encryption rule?

That rule isn't catch all for all encryption as my steganography was allowed.

Wait out of curiosity since I'm not familiar with this rule, what counts as encryption per the rules? Does a rot1 or rot13 cipher count? Because if so some of the let's get this bread stuff was against the rules. What transfiguration of the letters counts and as encryption and what doesn't? If I let's say performed some operation to turn letters to numbers and ran a modulo on it would that count as rule breaking? Or would I actually need to run some well known encryption algorithm for it to count?

You can be like Bunny and test the limits of such rules, or you can be nice and remember that the GM and the council are volunteers with less knowledge of encryption than you.

Eden's bread stuff was fine because it was an easily decipherable joke. The rule is there to prevent people from communicating in a way that isn't decipherable by others.

[BunnyGo]

That rule isn't catch all for all encryption as my steganography was allowed.

Wait out of curiosity since I'm not familiar with this rule, what counts as encryption per the rules? Does a rot1 or rot13 cipher count? Because if so some of the let's get this bread stuff was against the rules. What transfiguration of the letters counts and as encryption and what doesn't? If I let's say performed some operation to turn letters to numbers and ran a modulo on it would that count as rule breaking? Or would I actually need to run some well known encryption algorithm for it to count?

You can be like Bunny and test the limits of such rules, or you can be nice and remember that the GM and the council are volunteers with less knowledge of encryption than you.

Eden's bread stuff was fine because it was an easily decipherable joke. The rule is there to prevent people from communicating in a way that isn't decipherable by others.

Bunny always asks first, and never argues when told "no". That said, Bunny has not usually been described as "nice", so this is fair.

[worcej]

Get out

Bona as my witness, this simply isn’t true and is calculated to get people to dismiss the argument once I’m eliminated

I've not been in a call with you since like day 1

WE PLAYED CLANK TWO NIGHTS AGO

And the only reason we haven’t done more is that I’VE been gone, due to hosting family + chasing down a job, and this silly game too
Plus you’ve been getting deep into New World and dealing with a mouse and house and shit
But that still didn’t stop you from LITERALLY RECRUITING PEOPLE TO JOIN IT IN THIS GAME

I know most people are going to glaze over all this but THIS MAN IS LYING vote him out

I fucking love Clank.

[Chaqa]

I've not been in a call with you since like day 1

WE PLAYED CLANK TWO NIGHTS AGO

And the only reason we haven’t done more is that I’VE been gone, due to hosting family + chasing down a job, and this silly game too
Plus you’ve been getting deep into New World and dealing with a mouse and house and shit
But that still didn’t stop you from LITERALLY RECRUITING PEOPLE TO JOIN IT IN THIS GAME

I know most people are going to glaze over all this but THIS MAN IS LYING vote him out

I fucking love Clank.

Oh boy

[worcej]

I could see a world in which TFB is scum

Expand please.

[President Eden]

I've not been in a call with you since like day 1

WE PLAYED CLANK TWO NIGHTS AGO

And the only reason we haven’t done more is that I’VE been gone, due to hosting family + chasing down a job, and this silly game too
Plus you’ve been getting deep into New World and dealing with a mouse and house and shit
But that still didn’t stop you from LITERALLY RECRUITING PEOPLE TO JOIN IT IN THIS GAME

I know most people are going to glaze over all this but THIS MAN IS LYING vote him out

I fucking love Clank.

You've come to the right place

[worcej]

Sabi is in early, and starts talking and asking questions, but never once addresses bozo. They addresses TFB for calling bozo's idea dumb and says he wants to just kill people.

Now, if Sabi knows TFB and Bona and kgray from elsewhere, I guess it might make sense to ignore everyone but who they knows.

But I'm reconsidering my Sabi townlean based on the first few pages.

RL issues causing availability gaps aside, I honestly cannot understand why anyone has a town vibe from Sabi in this game anymore. Sabi's posts have mostly been non-value adding and no real effort to scum hunt. Mostly little jokes here and there.

And before anyone says it: Sabi isn't a noob. Sabi has played mafia on discord and knows how this game works.

You keep saying this but Sabi has given reads on people. You just don't like that they scumread you. And some people aren't as inclined to hunt, and especially when they have irl stuff going on, that's not always scum-indicative.

Sabi's reads
D3: Only had two real reads: Scummed me still and Towned you (kgray)
N2: Exclusively shitpost and continued to scum me. No other reads.
D2: 'trusted' Bunny, Scummed me and Chaqa, didn't want kgray or bozo to die, sheeped snowy to TFB, then 'choo choo'ed' me and called for people to get on me, then ended on TFB in claim-o-paloza.
N1: Indicated suspicion on Chaqa and shitposted.
D1: Wanted to kill Bona early (joke vote imho), voted Bunny over Jasnah and stated that the vote was because they wanted to even the votes out and thought bunny was sus, back to Bona, scummed me because my wagon went away and thought that it was because of 'signalling' and stayed on me through the phase.

You (kgray) made the point that TFB's reads are not progressing and adapting and Sabi is just as guilty of this.

[worcej]

Sabi's vote on bozo was also meh and fits a scum trying to buy credit imho:

My pronouns are they/them BTW.

I'm town, I dunno what else to say. I was on the wrong side because of my gut feeling, that is all. I will even vote Bozo for d3 jfc what else do I need to do to prove that I am town as town can get?

##VOTE bozothescum

Note: the frustration came from Vecna indicating Sabi was on the bozo-defense side.

[Jamiet99uk]

Isn't it just me and PE in this game. PE hasn't even worked yet

I think so. People sometimes think that I am a lawyer but I'm not. I have an LL.M and I'm doing a law PhD but I have no intention of becoming either a solicitor or a barrister. My interest in law is from the perspective of policymaking and regulatory theory. I take an interest in what goes on in court but do not see myself working there.

[Jamiet99uk]

encryption rule?

Making text small is definitely not "encryption" in the sense of that rule, no.

[Jamiet99uk]

encryption rule?

That rule isn't catch all for all encryption as my steganography was allowed.

Wait out of curiosity since I'm not familiar with this rule, what counts as encryption per the rules? Does a rot1 or rot13 cipher count? Because if so some of the let's get this bread stuff was against the rules. What transfiguration of the letters counts and as encryption and what doesn't? If I let's say performed some operation to turn letters to numbers and ran a modulo on it would that count as rule breaking? Or would I actually need to run some well known encryption algorithm for it to count?

The rule has previously been stated as:

All players are forbidden from using encryption, i.e. if you are going to communicate in code, it cannot be code that is only decipherable via a third party decryption service.

So a code that anyone could work out if they were clever enough does not violate the rule.

A code that, for example, requires you to have access to an encryption key provided by some software or other, where that encryption key could be shared via a link to said software, in a QT so that only the members of that QT would have it, would violate the rule.

[kgray]

RL issues causing availability gaps aside, I honestly cannot understand why anyone has a town vibe from Sabi in this game anymore. Sabi's posts have mostly been non-value adding and no real effort to scum hunt. Mostly little jokes here and there.

And before anyone says it: Sabi isn't a noob. Sabi has played mafia on discord and knows how this game works.

You keep saying this but Sabi has given reads on people. You just don't like that they scumread you. And some people aren't as inclined to hunt, and especially when they have irl stuff going on, that's not always scum-indicative.

Sabi's reads
D3: Only had two real reads: Scummed me still and Towned you (kgray)
N2: Exclusively shitpost and continued to scum me. No other reads.
D2: 'trusted' Bunny, Scummed me and Chaqa, didn't want kgray or bozo to die, sheeped snowy to TFB, then 'choo choo'ed' me and called for people to get on me, then ended on TFB in claim-o-paloza.
N1: Indicated suspicion on Chaqa and shitposted.
D1: Wanted to kill Bona early (joke vote imho), voted Bunny over Jasnah and stated that the vote was because they wanted to even the votes out and thought bunny was sus, back to Bona, scummed me because my wagon went away and thought that it was because of 'signalling' and stayed on me through the phase.

You (kgray) made the point that TFB's reads are not progressing and adapting and Sabi is just as guilty of this.

Yeah I mean they're different people, so I have different metrics for reading them. I'm just saying that Sabi is giving some opinions, but not putting in a lot of scum-hunting effort isn't scummy for them. I think that TFB not trying to solve a puzzle is scummy for him.

[Chaqa]

That rule isn't catch all for all encryption as my steganography was allowed.

Wait out of curiosity since I'm not familiar with this rule, what counts as encryption per the rules? Does a rot1 or rot13 cipher count? Because if so some of the let's get this bread stuff was against the rules. What transfiguration of the letters counts and as encryption and what doesn't? If I let's say performed some operation to turn letters to numbers and ran a modulo on it would that count as rule breaking? Or would I actually need to run some well known encryption algorithm for it to count?

The rule has previously been stated as:

All players are forbidden from using encryption, i.e. if you are going to communicate in code, it cannot be code that is only decipherable via a third party decryption service.

So a code that anyone could work out if they were clever enough does not violate the rule.

A code that, for example, requires you to have access to an encryption key provided by some software or other, where that encryption key could be shared via a link to said software, in a QT so that only the members of that QT would have it, would violate the rule.

That said, in past games (such as M55) we have done things like saying "post xyz in the QT." Xorxes and I used a similar code with EMC to catch a bunch of people in that game.

[worcej]

Wait out of curiosity since I'm not familiar with this rule, what counts as encryption per the rules? Does a rot1 or rot13 cipher count? Because if so some of the let's get this bread stuff was against the rules. What transfiguration of the letters counts and as encryption and what doesn't? If I let's say performed some operation to turn letters to numbers and ran a modulo on it would that count as rule breaking? Or would I actually need to run some well known encryption algorithm for it to count?

The rule has previously been stated as:

All players are forbidden from using encryption, i.e. if you are going to communicate in code, it cannot be code that is only decipherable via a third party decryption service.

So a code that anyone could work out if they were clever enough does not violate the rule.

A code that, for example, requires you to have access to an encryption key provided by some software or other, where that encryption key could be shared via a link to said software, in a QT so that only the members of that QT would have it, would violate the rule.

That said, in past games (such as M55) we have done things like saying "post xyz in the QT." Xorxes and I used a similar code with EMC to catch a bunch of people in that game.

Yeah, this hasn't been enforced how Jamie described it.

[Jamiet99uk]

That said, in past games (such as M55) we have done things like saying "post xyz in the QT." Xorxes and I used a similar code with EMC to catch a bunch of people in that game.

I don't understand.

You posted in the main thread, telling people what codes to use in the QT?

Wouldn't that be a bit obvious?

[Durga]

You keep saying this but Sabi has given reads on people. You just don't like that they scumread you. And some people aren't as inclined to hunt, and especially when they have irl stuff going on, that's not always scum-indicative.

Sabi's reads
D3: Only had two real reads: Scummed me still and Towned you (kgray)
N2: Exclusively shitpost and continued to scum me. No other reads.
D2: 'trusted' Bunny, Scummed me and Chaqa, didn't want kgray or bozo to die, sheeped snowy to TFB, then 'choo choo'ed' me and called for people to get on me, then ended on TFB in claim-o-paloza.
N1: Indicated suspicion on Chaqa and shitposted.
D1: Wanted to kill Bona early (joke vote imho), voted Bunny over Jasnah and stated that the vote was because they wanted to even the votes out and thought bunny was sus, back to Bona, scummed me because my wagon went away and thought that it was because of 'signalling' and stayed on me through the phase.

You (kgray) made the point that TFB's reads are not progressing and adapting and Sabi is just as guilty of this.

Yeah I mean they're different people, so I have different metrics for reading them. I'm just saying that Sabi is giving some opinions, but not putting in a lot of scum-hunting effort isn't scummy for them. I think that TFB not trying to solve a puzzle is scummy for him.

TFB keeps putting out these reads lists but I don't see him pushing much