M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

Sabi is in early, and starts talking and asking questions, but never once addresses bozo. They addresses TFB for calling bozo's idea dumb and says he wants to just kill people.

Now, if Sabi knows TFB and Bona and kgray from elsewhere, I guess it might make sense to ignore everyone but who they knows.

But I'm reconsidering my Sabi townlean based on the first few pages.

RL issues causing availability gaps aside, I honestly cannot understand why anyone has a town vibe from Sabi in this game anymore. Sabi's posts have mostly been non-value adding and no real effort to scum hunt. Mostly little jokes here and there.

And before anyone says it: Sabi isn't a noob. Sabi has played mafia on discord and knows how this game works.

[BunnyGo]

Reminder to JOAT that if you're using your final action tonight, to let us know what you've done in your EoN post.

Reminder to JOAT:

If you put your final night action in the user_id part of a quote, then nobody can read it quickly (much like Chaqa did with his misspelling at EON2).

Other options to make sure people can't read it quickly:

1) use size 5 by:

setting (size=5)text(/size) but with [ ] instead of ()

Then we can only read it if we quote the post

Well...you're clever, you can come up with others.

[worcej]

Hell if I was mafia and knew jasnah was mafia I'd throw her under the bus so fucking hard so fucking fast.

Would have been the tactically superior play for sure, since she died anyway, but for a while that was up in the air, and in a no-flip game it's definitely plausible to me that mafia might play greedier than normal. Simple fact is that our one virtually assured mafia did stretch real hard to keep jasnah around, far more than I'd expect a mafia to do for a counterproductive townie.

This is incredibly accurate assessment of D1 - I felt like I was under a lot of pressure D1 and was going to be forced to claim before I could even do a PR action.

[BunnyGo]

A part of me is thinking the scum love pestering over the "what ifs" even though the odds are like 1%.

What if what specifically?

I think the only what-ifs here under 1% is worcej-bona scum team, and maaaaybe Bunny if we stretch 1% out pretty far

1 + 1 = 3 for large values of 1...

[snowy801]

Reminder to JOAT that if you're using your final action tonight, to let us know what you've done in your EoN post.

Reminder to JOAT:

If you put your final night action in the user_id part of a quote, then nobody can read it quickly (much like Chaqa did with his misspelling at EON2).

Other options to make sure people can't read it quickly:

1) use size 5 by:

setting (size=5)text(/size) but with [ ] instead of ()

Then we can only read it if we quote the post

Well...you're clever, you can come up with others.

Size changes were ruler illegal two games ago due to potential for abuse, not sure if that applies here but it should

Just wait until like 55 seconds like I do

[Durga]

Reminder to JOAT that if you're using your final action tonight, to let us know what you've done in your EoN post.

Reminder to JOAT:

If you put your final night action in the user_id part of a quote, then nobody can read it quickly (much like Chaqa did with his misspelling at EON2).

Other options to make sure people can't read it quickly:

1) use size 5 by:

setting (size=5)text(/size) but with [ ] instead of ()

Then we can only read it if we quote the post

Well...you're clever, you can come up with others.

The size thing is not true I can zoom in to read it on my phone.

[worcej]

FTR, I like Doom, but she hasn't really done anything that is super townie yet.
If the doc save is successful we definitely have to kill her tomorrow.

Why is this contingent on me being successful or not?

[Fluminator]

I'm aware of the players pretending to be PRs or pretending to PR read other players. I'm not convinced any of them are cops, and I really don't see a point of daykilling Chaqa until there's at least a cc.

[BunnyGo]

Reminder to JOAT that if you're using your final action tonight, to let us know what you've done in your EoN post.

Reminder to JOAT:

If you put your final night action in the user_id part of a quote, then nobody can read it quickly (much like Chaqa did with his misspelling at EON2).

Other options to make sure people can't read it quickly:

1) use size 5 by:

setting (size=5)text(/size) but with [ ] instead of ()

Then we can only read it if we quote the post

Well...you're clever, you can come up with others.

Size changes were ruler illegal two games ago due to potential for abuse, not sure if that applies here but it should

Just wait until like 55 seconds like I do

OH! Thank you for telling me, I was unaware.

[Fluminator]

FTR, I like Doom, but she hasn't really done anything that is super townie yet.
If the doc save is successful we definitely have to kill her tomorrow.

Why is this contingent on me being successful or not?

Ask Doom that

[worcej]

Is coaching ever actually a thing though?

Yes. Per my reading old scum chats when a new player was scum, the more usual players give coaching to the junior players.

[Chaqa]

Reminder to JOAT that if you're using your final action tonight, to let us know what you've done in your EoN post.

Why are you so invested in what the JOAT does?

Don’t make this into something it isn’t.

[worcej]

Lol shit you caught me Eden! Gosh blast darn it!

He*

OBJECTION!

[Jamiet99uk]

@Jamie - ghug is a very plausible partner to jasnah, if bozo's actions are illustrative of how mafia reacted to the jasnah situation. I don't see any immediate flaws in the theory. I have this feeling ghug is more likely to bus there than bozo is, but like Vec already said, the numbers game discourages busing on top of no-flip.

Okay cool, so we could vote Ghug tomorrow, huh.

[President Eden]

@Jamie - ghug is a very plausible partner to jasnah, if bozo's actions are illustrative of how mafia reacted to the jasnah situation. I don't see any immediate flaws in the theory. I have this feeling ghug is more likely to bus there than bozo is, but like Vec already said, the numbers game discourages busing on top of no-flip.

Okay cool, so we could vote Ghug tomorrow, huh.

I don't think I've been very subtle about where my vote is going, but it wouldn't be a bad vote if that's where you're going.

[worcej]

Something I also can't stop thinking about is Chaqa's Se7en crumb. It just seems so iffy to me. When he was the cop in that Looney Toons game he had a way better crumb:

I'm Porky Pig.

My first post, the capitals spell out "C.A.S.E." which is a brand of porkroll.

I know it's tunneling and I know nobody wants to hear it and I know people have already addressed the weirdness of him missing his 7th post and then getting lucky because Flum posted before page 7. But this isn't even close to as solid of a crumb as when he was cop in that game, and it really makes me think he just invented it after the fact.

I honestly thought this crumb was dogshit at the time...

[snowy801]

Reminder to JOAT that if you're using your final action tonight, to let us know what you've done in your EoN post.

Why are you so invested in what the JOAT does?

Don’t make this into something it isn’t.

Your premise is flawed. If literally anyone else were talking about JOAT right now perhaps the argument could be made that it's a natural thing to do, but it seems evident to me at least that the optimal play is just to stfu about it.

But don't mind me you do your thing my guy I was just curious

[snowy801]

@Jamie - ghug is a very plausible partner to jasnah, if bozo's actions are illustrative of how mafia reacted to the jasnah situation. I don't see any immediate flaws in the theory. I have this feeling ghug is more likely to bus there than bozo is, but like Vec already said, the numbers game discourages busing on top of no-flip.

Okay cool, so we could vote Ghug tomorrow, huh.

I don't think I've been very subtle about where my vote is going, but it wouldn't be a bad vote if that's where you're going.

I don't think we vote Chaqa without a cc regardless

[Jamiet99uk]

[quote=snowy801 post_id=264505 time=1633017396 user_id=88]

Size changes were ruled illegal two games ago due to potential for abuse, not sure if that applies here but it should

[/quote]

It is not mentioned in the master rules post and DemonRHK did not indicate a game-specific ruling on it, therefore it should be assumed not to be banned.

[Chaqa]

Why are you so invested in what the JOAT does?

Don’t make this into something it isn’t.

Your premise is flawed. If literally anyone else were talking about JOAT right now perhaps the argument could be made that it's a natural thing to do, but it seems evident to me at least that the optimal play is just to stfu about it.

But don't mind me you do your thing my guy I was just curious

Because it's scummy to remind the JOAT that IF they are using their last action then they should EoN post it in a setup with no reveals so we'll have no idea if they die?

I have never ever bought into the "don't talk about night order" stuff because scum has multiple members who will almost always have a better idea of what to do than any one towny.

I can outright say right now who I am scanning and it wouldn't have any impact on night orders because it's all WIFOM anyway.