M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Fluminator]

No. But I am thinking about it more and though I still think it's scummy, it might actually make you less likely to be scum... I don't know, it's not important atm

This is confusing.

If you think it's not important could you briefly explain what it was, so that we can put it aside and stop wondering what you saw that others missed?

Nah

I'm sorry Kgray, but I don't have even a slight clue what is up with you this game.

None of your posts fall in line with the town kgray and I'm having a hard time reading this "dejected Kgray" as anything but an act. This is a kgray who stood up to scum BunnyGo (who postgame said he was intentionally being a dick I think lol) or went face to face with HR (probably one of the most aggravating mafia players ever) and got pumped doing it.

I don't see town kgray mannerisms. I looked back a little and most of our interactions are you trying to push me as scum for pulling up two quotes debunking the damo cop theory. After going back and forth with you a little, you started framing me as panicked scum frantically defending himself, and I called it how I saw it that you were scum trying to reframe my posts in a wrong light to throw suspicion on me (without actually addressing the substance of my arguments). It's a very common scum tactic and you've used it on me as scum before successfully which is why I bowed out of the convo since I would lose even though you didn't address any of my arguments. You also have never targeted me so early as town before so that was another red flag. Both other times you were scum you targeted me early and I think you know I generally start off slowly and it's the best time to push for it.
I believe town kgray would be bragging she caught Bozo like she does every other time I've seen you as town and catches confirmed scum especially in this setup. I was expecting you to go like "SUCK IT GHUG"

There's so many things you post that I struggle to see how you could genuinely believe it when I usually agree with town kgray. Whenever I don't agree I at least see paranoia you could be wrong laced behind every post. Like town kgray in my expereince might be constantly mentioning you're worried damo was actually the cop still but the way you're saying it with such comfort this game is throwing me off what I'm used to.

I just have a much easier time seeing this as a scum tactic looking for a reasonable excuse to not be excited about this game (and it seems to be working, and it's also smartly made people feel worse about pushing you) and you're smart enough to try this, but I just fail to understand the town mindset behind this and it contradicts what I know of you.

That said I can't deny you voted Bozo so I don't think you're the best target today anyway still, but that's where I'm at with you.

[snowy801]

Ladies please, there was no ill intent all around, wires got crossed, the question got answered, say something nice about each other so we can move on

Gentlemen please, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!

[kgray]

There's no world where town!bozo isn't trying to solve this game before he dies, or at least shading the crap out of me for defending worcej so hard.

worcej and bona are conftown and nothing will change my mind on that.

[Chaqa]

There's no world where town!bozo isn't trying to solve this game before he dies, or at least shading the crap out of me for defending worcej so hard.

worcej and bona are conftown and nothing will change my mind on that.

Kgray grandstanding for the total of 0 people who think Bozo is town.

[Jamiet99uk]

This is confusing.

If you think it's not important could you briefly explain what it was, so that we can put it aside and stop wondering what you saw that others missed?

Nah

I'm sorry Kgray, but I don't have even a slight clue what is up with you this game.

None of your posts fall in line with the town kgray and I'm having a hard time reading this "dejected Kgray" as anything but an act. This is a kgray who stood up to scum BunnyGo (who postgame said he was intentionally being a dick I think lol) or went face to face with HR (probably one of the most aggravating mafia players ever) and got pumped doing it.

I don't see town kgray mannerisms. I looked back a little and most of our interactions are you trying to push me as scum for pulling up two quotes debunking the damo cop theory. After going back and forth with you a little, you started framing me as panicked scum frantically defending himself, and I called it how I saw it that you were scum trying to reframe my posts in a wrong light to throw suspicion on me (without actually addressing the substance of my arguments). It's a very common scum tactic and you've used it on me as scum before successfully which is why I bowed out of the convo since I would lose even though you didn't address any of my arguments. You also have never targeted me so early as town before so that was another red flag. Both other times you were scum you targeted me early and I think you know I generally start off slowly and it's the best time to push for it.
I believe town kgray would be bragging she caught Bozo like she does every other time I've seen you as town and catches confirmed scum especially in this setup. I was expecting you to go like "SUCK IT GHUG"

There's so many things you post that I struggle to see how you could genuinely believe it when I usually agree with town kgray. Whenever I don't agree I at least see paranoia you could be wrong laced behind every post. Like town kgray in my expereince might be constantly mentioning you're worried damo was actually the cop still but the way you're saying it with such comfort this game is throwing me off what I'm used to.

I just have a much easier time seeing this as a scum tactic looking for a reasonable excuse to not be excited about this game (and it seems to be working, and it's also smartly made people feel worse about pushing you) and you're smart enough to try this, but I just fail to understand the town mindset behind this and it contradicts what I know of you.

That said I can't deny you voted Bozo so I don't think you're the best target today anyway still, but that's where I'm at with you.

I have to agree with Fluminator here.

Kgray is being weird, unhelpful, less engaged than normal...

She seems to be spending more time than usual defending certain people, and more importantly, less effort than usual into questioning and probing.

The example above is just one of several.

"I thought I noticed a scummy thing Fluminator did, but now I think it's actually not important"

"Could you at least explain what it was?"

"No".

Weird, evasive, unhelpful.

[Durga]

Then don't act so indignant that I wonder why your reads updated. jeez

My point was its WEIRD that your response to me being like wtf why do you think he's scum was "well you think he's scum" and like what, so you think snowy is scum because I thought snowy is scum??

Does that make sense to you now?? Is it clear enough now????

I literally asked you what changed your mind on him and you got snarky with me. I didn't have a tone, it wasn't confrontational, it was an honest question.

It's weird to me why you didn't just provide an answer and instead asked if I was pandering to you, which doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

Are you going to tell me why you think snowy is scummy or no?

[Chaqa]

i say we kill her

[Chaqa]

My point was its WEIRD that your response to me being like wtf why do you think he's scum was "well you think he's scum" and like what, so you think snowy is scum because I thought snowy is scum??

Does that make sense to you now?? Is it clear enough now????

I literally asked you what changed your mind on him and you got snarky with me. I didn't have a tone, it wasn't confrontational, it was an honest question.

It's weird to me why you didn't just provide an answer and instead asked if I was pandering to you, which doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

Are you going to tell me why you think snowy is scummy or no?

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?us ... t=d1-&g=70

[TheFlyingBoat]

There's no world where town!bozo isn't trying to solve this game before he dies, or at least shading the crap out of me for defending worcej so hard.

worcej and bona are conftown and nothing will change my mind on that.

Is there anyone who doesn't think Bozo is scum and worcej and bona are town? I feel like this type of post over explaining the obvious is what you shaded me for lol.

[Chaqa]

Pretty sure all the snowy voters are town

##Vote snowy

Including worcej?

I’m not sure. I started coming around on him but I could also see him being low-key saved on day 1, though when I looked the likely culprits would be snowy and Bozo and I don’t see worcej and Snowy on the same scumteam

More than a little tinfoil, but I wonder if snowy is mad about how I'm doing my scans because there was an argument in the scum QT about the RB me, kill Bona plan vs. perhaps a kill me, RB Bona plan and they argued I would need to be roleblocked because I was going to scan snowy.

Here's a few more "concrete" reasons

[Jamiet99uk]

i say we kill her

She's made her way into the pool of people I would vote for today. Bozo is taking up most of the space in that pool but there's just room in that murky water for Ghug, maybe TheFlyingBoat, maaaybe Peden.

I can understand the interest in voting Tom, too, actually.

[President Eden]

#DefuseTheBomb

[Chaqa]

#DefuseTheBomb

Jamie: "There is no bomber in this game."

[Jamiet99uk]

#DefuseTheBomb

TomRenderedSafe isn't a very good name tho.

[TheFlyingBoat]

#DefuseTheBomb

#MintTheCoin

[Jamiet99uk]

#DefuseTheBomb

Jamie: "There is no bomber in this game."

He didn't use two hashes so it's not a valid defuse order anyway.

[Durga]

Inb4 ghug and kgray are scum together and the reason kgray is so pissed is bc ghug keeps bussing her for no good reason in a no flip game

[Jamiet99uk]

Inb4 ghug and kgray are scum together and the reason kgray is so pissed is bc ghug keeps bussing her for no good reason in a no flip game

They could be scum together. Both are potential scumberts.

[kgray]

This is confusing.

If you think it's not important could you briefly explain what it was, so that we can put it aside and stop wondering what you saw that others missed?

Nah

I'm sorry Kgray, but I don't have even a slight clue what is up with you this game.

None of your posts fall in line with the town kgray and I'm having a hard time reading this "dejected Kgray" as anything but an act. This is a kgray who stood up to scum BunnyGo (who postgame said he was intentionally being a dick I think lol) or went face to face with HR (probably one of the most aggravating mafia players ever) and got pumped doing it.

I don't see town kgray mannerisms. I looked back a little and most of our interactions are you trying to push me as scum for pulling up two quotes debunking the damo cop theory. After going back and forth with you a little, you started framing me as panicked scum frantically defending himself, and I called it how I saw it that you were scum trying to reframe my posts in a wrong light to throw suspicion on me (without actually addressing the substance of my arguments). It's a very common scum tactic and you've used it on me as scum before successfully which is why I bowed out of the convo since I would lose even though you didn't address any of my arguments. You also have never targeted me so early as town before so that was another red flag. Both other times you were scum you targeted me early and I think you know I generally start off slowly and it's the best time to push for it.
I believe town kgray would be bragging she caught Bozo like she does every other time I've seen you as town and catches confirmed scum especially in this setup. I was expecting you to go like "SUCK IT GHUG"

There's so many things you post that I struggle to see how you could genuinely believe it when I usually agree with town kgray. Whenever I don't agree I at least see paranoia you could be wrong laced behind every post. Like town kgray in my expereince might be constantly mentioning you're worried damo was actually the cop still but the way you're saying it with such comfort this game is throwing me off what I'm used to.

I just have a much easier time seeing this as a scum tactic looking for a reasonable excuse to not be excited about this game (and it seems to be working, and it's also smartly made people feel worse about pushing you) and you're smart enough to try this, but I just fail to understand the town mindset behind this and it contradicts what I know of you.

That said I can't deny you voted Bozo so I don't think you're the best target today anyway still, but that's where I'm at with you.

Okay thanks Flum. I don't really know what to tell you? Probably it's just different when you and ghug are coming after me for what I feel like are disingeuine and unfair attacks than when Bunny or HR did it.

I never tried to frame you as panicked scum defending yourself, and I maintain that your D1 was extremely unlike what I've seen of you as town before so that's why I pushed you early.

I was pretty stoked about being right about worcej and bozo, but tbh when ghug is coming after me literally every page it just drains the enjoyment out of my game, regardless of what else is going on. And this isn't a scum tactic to get people to feel bad for pushing me, it's just me deciding this game isn't worth dealing with that.

[kgray]

There's no world where town!bozo isn't trying to solve this game before he dies, or at least shading the crap out of me for defending worcej so hard.

worcej and bona are conftown and nothing will change my mind on that.

Kgray grandstanding for the total of 0 people who think Bozo is town.

Did you not just say you were doubting worcej??