M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

Uh, what?

The wagons were 4 votes on bozo, 3 on me, 3 on you before his vote, which he made as an anchor before leaving for the last half hour of the day.

I'm town, I think you're town, and I think bozo is scum. There's no way scum!lfischl does this.

this makes sense, but I don't see why anyone's alignment matters here but bozo's.

Because if lfischl is scum, he had the choice between voting for his buddy bozo or me (or you, but he specifically called me out in his post). Choosing to vote scum over town in this scenario is very town-indicative. If I were scum, this wouldn't be as convincing - though, it would still be notable that he didn't vote for you, assuming you're town.

[Bonatogether]

There’s exactly one benefit which is that the Oracle still has decidedly mediocre targets, if we kill someone a bit spicier like the Bomb then they don’t

I suppose, but Bozo is mechanical scum

Every time you say Bozo is mechanical scum I'm going to say I'm mechanical townclear, because it's all a matter of perspective.

There are six players in this game who know bozo's alignment for a fact to be scum, and everyone else with at least 75% odds of it. There is no reason to not vote him here.

[President Eden]

Y’all some disrespectful mfers. Can’t Bona just be town and get something right without being a PR. Lol smh

[snowy801]

Oh uh awkward

Guys give me some signal I'm actually not sure who to vote for here but I'm inclined to believe bozo is scum's preferred wagon

I'm with you there but I don't think worcej is scum either.

I'd love for snowy and ghug to explain why they thought bozo was the preferred wagon for scum, please.

It had like 9 votes and had worcej and a bunch of other weird people on it (Jamiet etc names slip my mind) with few of my town reads

Normally a wagon that swells mid day dies out in the end but this one was colossal. Town tends to prefer relatively even grounds going into EoD so I usually mark an unusual upswell of voted as being scum indicative (see also: Jamiet M69)

And a few other things that I can only remember the impression of

[Doom427]

Ok, I can believe that Mafia would game this out as-Best Case, Chaqa is still around as possible mafia, Two Doc Claimants and we don't fully believe either one, and they get a town kill that wasn't looking to be miskilled.

I don't really buy WorceJ's cop analysis, because if true Chaqa has to be scum, but I can believe Mafia would go for bona, and if that's what happened, WorceJ had to have defended him

Ok, fucked up typing thoughts here. I don't really buy WorceJ thought Bona was cop, but that's just arguing for case of arguing. And I was gonna say if Chaqa was scum, they would have to roleblock the doctors to make sure their kill goes through, but then... Roleblock doctor, kill Bona? Yeah, Chaqa has to be scum then. so... yeah, that makes no sense, actually. Never mind. Chaqa can be scum, but doesn't have to be, or even likely to be.

[snowy801]

Y’all some disrespectful mfers. Can’t Bona just be town and get something right without being a PR. Lol smh

Seemed unlikely

[Vecna]

At work and can’t keep up with you maniacs all the time.

I still sorta like giving Oracle a useful dead person rather than almost certainly scum bozo. (Though I suppose with multiple near clears scum probably aren’t going to hit Oracle anyways so we could probably just dispatch bozo here)

##vote President Eden for now. Will fully catch-up at lunch.

I also think kgray is still a possibility. Assume scum killed Bona because they thought they had a guilty scan on bozo. Kgray could have picked up on this and bussed bozo. Certainly bussing does make sense in a setup with oracles as it could give scum deep cover if a dead scum is revealed. Also would help explain why her counterwagon fizzled and wagons started on me and TFB (to a lesser degree)

I think either of these would be a better Oracle target than bozo.

Can you outline for us where you think Bona made it obvious? Because I feel to the few people that actually openly stated they felt they saw something, this came very very close to EoD.

Does this even time properly with Kgrays read of bozo? did you even check?

[Doom427]

Ok, gonna vote and take another break from game.

Tom is the biggest wagon, but what are the chances we had two scum out of three yesterday? I heard some rumbling that it actually was likely, but, eh, let's

## VOTE Lfischl

(again)

[Doom427]

Ok, gonna vote and take another break from game.

Tom is the biggest wagon, but what are the chances we had two scum out of three yesterday? I heard some rumbling that it actually was likely, but, eh, let's

## VOTE Lfischl

(again)

No, I'm not voting for the doctor claimaints. Even if it can be annoying to read the same debate over and over again, leaving them around is funny, and it gives a slight chance we get more slips.

Lol if WorceJ saves someone again. Double LOL if Bozo saves someone, and things go full chaos.

[Vecna]

I still don't think we should kill Bozo today.

I do think he's mafia in say 75%+ of universes, but the potential WIFOM situation it puts mafia in is quite valuable, as I've said before. Referring back to my list of possible scum suspects, I'd like to vote Snowy or Tom today, or maybe Rivera or TFB.

Rivera has been flying under the radar heavily, but that isn't super unusual for him.

Tom's biggest thing going for him is being a scum counter-wagon.

I think those three are my pool for today.

Chaqa darling, you my precious, but I think you should refrain from pushing opinions on this, because it would also be hella usefull for scum-chaqa to keep this wifom scenario alive as long as possible so he has a valid excuse to still not be dead-o.

And if youre town, this type o logic is gonna be used against you at some point.

[Chaqa]

I still don't think we should kill Bozo today.

I do think he's mafia in say 75%+ of universes, but the potential WIFOM situation it puts mafia in is quite valuable, as I've said before. Referring back to my list of possible scum suspects, I'd like to vote Snowy or Tom today, or maybe Rivera or TFB.

Rivera has been flying under the radar heavily, but that isn't super unusual for him.

Tom's biggest thing going for him is being a scum counter-wagon.

I think those three are my pool for today.

Chaqa darling, you my precious, but I think you should refrain from pushing opinions on this, because it would also be hella usefull for scum-chaqa to keep this wifom scenario alive as long as possible so he has a valid excuse to still not be dead-o.

And if youre town, this type o logic is gonna be used against you at some point.

Are you seriously telling me to not voice my opinions because people might scumread me for it? WTF is this post

[kgray]

Ok, gonna vote and take another break from game.

Tom is the biggest wagon, but what are the chances we had two scum out of three yesterday? I heard some rumbling that it actually was likely, but, eh, let's

## VOTE Lfischl

(again)

no no no lfishl is so towny.

If you think bozo is scum and bona is town (or if you townread me, though that's much less of a given) then you shouldn't vote for lfischl.

If you think bozo is town and bona/worcej are scum, you have to justify why scum would waste a no-kill for this convoluted nonsense that is not going to take them to the endgame. I think it was Eden(?) that said this no-kill gains us a miskill, and also that we aren't going to let bona and worcej make it to the very end.

So tldr, lfischl is very very likely town.

[Chaqa]

I'm pretty sure if I didn't say what I'm thinking people would accuse me of being too quiet or lurking or manufacturing reads (like kgray).

can't please anyone here lol

[President Eden]

I still don't think we should kill Bozo today.

I do think he's mafia in say 75%+ of universes, but the potential WIFOM situation it puts mafia in is quite valuable, as I've said before. Referring back to my list of possible scum suspects, I'd like to vote Snowy or Tom today, or maybe Rivera or TFB.

Rivera has been flying under the radar heavily, but that isn't super unusual for him.

Tom's biggest thing going for him is being a scum counter-wagon.

I think those three are my pool for today.

Chaqa darling, you my precious, but I think you should refrain from pushing opinions on this, because it would also be hella usefull for scum-chaqa to keep this wifom scenario alive as long as possible so he has a valid excuse to still not be dead-o.

And if youre town, this type o logic is gonna be used against you at some point.

This is uncharacteristically optics-focused for Vec IMO

[Durga]

We're not flipping snowy, what

You were scumreading and voting him yesterday, what changed?

Are you trying to pander to me?

[Chaqa]

We're not flipping snowy, what

You were scumreading and voting him yesterday, what changed?

Are you trying to pander to me?

In what possible way is that question pandering?

I want an answer as to what made you go from voting him to saying that.

[Doom427]

Ok, gonna vote and take another break from game.

Tom is the biggest wagon, but what are the chances we had two scum out of three yesterday? I heard some rumbling that it actually was likely, but, eh, let's

## VOTE Lfischl

(again)

no no no lfishl is so towny.

If you think bozo is scum and bona is town (or if you townread me, though that's much less of a given) then you shouldn't vote for lfischl.

If you think bozo is town and bona/worcej are scum, you have to justify why scum would waste a no-kill for this convoluted nonsense that is not going to take them to the endgame. I think it was Eden(?) that said this no-kill gains us a miskill, and also that we aren't going to let bona and worcej make it to the very end.

So tldr, lfischl is very very likely town.

I.. don't understand what any of this has to do with lfishl?

I just came back to hard claim that I'm not Mafia if tomorrow a doctor doesn't claim another save. If Doc does claim a save, I might be, and if I hang for that, I'm totally willing to go down, because that would be amazing. (Though, only if the save is someone who hasn't claimed a PR. If it is, that's kinda boring. So not if Chaqa or a self-save. Bunny I am counting as a PR, unless bozo saves him, in which case, yeah, Doom/Bunny/bozo/? Mafia, Doom is pushing for that play)

[President Eden]

Bro what is happening

It’s like the town decided this game was getting too easy and now all the obvtowns are clowning to make it a fair fight

[Durga]

If you're so sure I'm scum how could you then believe that mafia gave up on miskilling you eh?

Well, it would be quite suspicious if you suddenly 180'd on me like Durga did on you.

I did 180 on you after the events of D2 until I realized I was being stupid

But I guess you just didn't notice huh

Did a full 180, crazy... Thinking 'bout the way I was
Did the heartbreak change me? Maybe?

But look at where I ended up

I'm all good already

So moved on, it's scary

I'm not where you left me at all, so

[Durga]

You were scumreading and voting him yesterday, what changed?

Are you trying to pander to me?

In what possible way is that question pandering?

I want an answer as to what made you go from voting him to saying that.

Like are you scum reading him because I was. Because I still have no idea why you think he's scummy.