MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[worcej]

Given the GM clarification, Peter's saving action did not happen because he was killed at Step 4.

So, I see no need to question the lynching of Bozo as I believe Vecna's claims.

Agreed. ##end

[bozotheclown]

##GM NOTE

Not sure if I understand the question and the order of adjudication notes are really clear. If a player dies at step four, and they have an action keyed in for a later step they are unable to execute it because they are dead unless they get healed in step 6.

This answer contradicts the setup. The doc description says that the doc can visit himself, implying that the doc can save himself. Are you now saying it is impossible for the doc to save himself?

[bozotheclown]

Given the GM clarification, Peter's saving action did not happen because he was killed at Step 4.

So, I see no need to question the lynching of Bozo as I believe Vecna's claims.

If you think I am the SK, then you are making a mistake lynching me instead of going after the last scum.

[worcej]

##GM NOTE

Not sure if I understand the question and the order of adjudication notes are really clear. If a player dies at step four, and they have an action keyed in for a later step they are unable to execute it because they are dead unless they get healed in step 6.

It actually only says steps 1 and 3, not in 4 specifically.

1. *Anyone* who is killed at step *1* or step *3* is considered dead during their portion of adjudication. If they are healed at step *5* then their action is skipped and refunded (if they had one). The Doctor or JOAT who made the heal will learn via GM Message, “You have healed -name- successfully”, but the player attacked will not learn they were attacked or healed as it is considered a surprise and massive injury that they -blacked out and forgot what immediately preceded it-. The player who made the attack will receive a message, “The player you targeted survived the attack.” and they will lose their ability if it is a 1x shot via JOAT. If a person who visited the Veteran is healed then the Doctor will receive the above message and the Veteran will receive, via GM, “Someone who visited you survived your alert.” This only applies if the Veteran is on alert. If the Veteran is not on alert then they are treated as a vanilla townie for all intents and purposes.

That is why I asked.

[bozotheclown]

##GM NOTE

Not sure if I understand the question and the order of adjudication notes are really clear. If a player dies at step four, and they have an action keyed in for a later step they are unable to execute it because they are dead unless they get healed in step 6.

This answer contradicts the setup. The doc description says that the doc can visit himself, implying that the doc can save himself. Are you now saying it is impossible for the doc to save himself?

##CALL GM

Are you saying the doc can't save himself, which is a direct contradiction to the doc description?

[worcej]

##GM NOTE

Not sure if I understand the question and the order of adjudication notes are really clear. If a player dies at step four, and they have an action keyed in for a later step they are unable to execute it because they are dead unless they get healed in step 6.

##unend now...

This doesn't respond to my exact question. So:

##Call GM - If the doctor is killed in step 4, does the heal they have set go off in step 5?

[BismarckAlive]

Let's take the chance. Town has 2 day lynches to win:

D5 After the SK is lynched, it is 5:1

N5 some Town dies, 4:1
D6 Town lynches someone, if Town 3:1

N6 some Town dies, 2:1
D7 last chance for Town to lynch the remaining Mafia

[worcej]

Let's take the chance. Town has 2 day lynches to win:

D5 After the SK is lynched, it is 5:1

N5 some Town dies, 4:1
D6 Town lynches someone, if Town 3:1

N6 some Town dies, 2:1
D7 last chance for Town to lynch the remaining Mafia

Did you not understand my posts?

[rdrivera2005]

I was reading the setup again and for me it's pretty clear what happened, unless Vecna was lying and I don't see a reason for PR to lie. Also, even if Peter can save Bozo it won't make any sense.

SK killed Vecna and Mafia killed Peter. This point for a SK who was going to be killed by Vecna (Bozo or me, and I know I am not SK) and a Mafia that isn't under pressure, because he didn't target Vecna and also didn't try to hit the Tracker.

[Squigs44]

Well, I think I'm good to lynch Bozo now. ND answered my question. Peter could not have saved Bozo. Either Bozo is SK or Vecna screwed us over.

##end

[worcej]

Screw it... unless NK's explanation is meh, I had the same conclusion. ##end

[dargorygel]

DO NOT POST
The Day Has Ended
Please hold

[dargorygel]

Early End of Day 5 Vote Count
BozotheClown (5) flash2015, worcej, BismarckAlive, Squigs44, rdrivera2005
Flash2015 (1) bozotheclown
Not voted: damo666

4 of 4 end votes (flash2015, BismarckAlive,worcej, Squigs44)

bozotheclown is set to be lynched

[dargorygel]

BOZOTHECLOWN HAS DIED. HE WAS CAP'N CRUNCH, THE SERIAL KILLER

damo666 will suffer no penalty for not voting, since the day was ended early.
You may now post.

[dargorygel]

oops... sorry ND... ruined your flavor...
bozotheclown was actually Padan Fain the Serial Killer.

[dargorygel]

For the bot:
DAY HAS ENDED EARLY

[worcej]

Alright, thank god.

[flash2015]

Let's take the chance. Town has 2 day lynches to win:

D5 After the SK is lynched, it is 5:1

N5 some Town dies, 4:1
D6 Town lynches someone, if Town 3:1

N6 some Town dies, 2:1
D7 last chance for Town to lynch the remaining Mafia

Obviously the tracker hasn't revealed himself yet as he must not have found the last mafia member. But whatever the info the tracker has, he must reveal tonight right before deadline.

If the tracker does not reveal himself before being killed and town clears no-one, the chance of town winning 1 - 4/5 * 2/3 = 1 - 0.53 = 47%

If the tracker town clears one person that survives tonight the chance of town winning is 1 - 3/5 * 2/3 = 60%

If the tracker town clears two person that survives tonight the chance of town winning is 1 - 2/5 * 1/3 = 87%

And of course if the tracker clears three people that survive tonight it is all over.

[flash2015]

##CALL GM When will night end?

[Squigs44]

A clown serial killer... I'm gonna have nightmares tonight about Bozo the Clown Serial Killer.

We have two lynches to get this right. Let's hope we can get some intel from the tracker before they die. A post just before night ends would be ideal, like what Vec did with his JOAT claim.