It's an obviously slip in my eyes.
Of note - totally would be onboard with removing Sabi, but that isn't a common opinion.
#4561 Post by worcej » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:41 pm
It's an obviously slip in my eyes.
#4562 Post by Vecna » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:41 pm
well to be fair, that wasnt his argument as I understood it. It was contingent on it happening just after Chaqa claiming and night starting iirc?worcej wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pmI have two knights?! Lord have mercy on me.Vecna wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:23 pmIm back to hard-defending Worcej btw. I really dont like that wagon and im just back to thinking he's solidly town.
Even though I see some smidgets of a town'ish bozo in how he approached this, it is indeed interesting that he slipped up on some of the details. Worcej has a point that when Bozo is finding a reason to go for someone as scum, he often is a bit fuzzy on the exact details of how things happened exactly. What also sticks in my mind is, that when I was 3P - his reasoning revolved around "do these actions further the win-condition of said person". I know some people do not have the highest opinion of worcej, but would scum really make the error there of just blatantly and openly stating the thing that he uses as the prime evidence? Still, overall Bozo has felt a bit more chill this game, hasnt felt the need to force much, is just calmly observing and doesnt feel the utmost need to get scumreads (although its interesting this Worcej thing did pop in after he was accused of not having any scumreads, which is similar to his scumgame where he cannot get genuine scumreads to save his life).
Otherwise - in the massive text wall, are you asking would bozo blatantly make that mistake? My experience is yes he does, but they don't get noticed normally. I recall from watching older games that bozo slips and usually tries to coast under the radar when they happen to avoid being caught.
This is why I am hammering the point that his mistake of phases is important, because if I came out with what I said on D2 it would be a lot more scummy because of the planning time available to have those opinions.
#4563 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:44 pm
#4564 Post by Vecna » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:44 pm
I meant to phrase it as you dont understand why tf people are thinking about stuff in such "silly ways" fypov.
#4565 Post by ghug » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:44 pm
#4566 Post by Vecna » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:46 pm
yeah i just realized you cannot +1 your own posts, so when I checked and noted you didnt +1 the surrounding posts, I failed to check if you were the one writing those posts.
#4567 Post by Chaqa » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:46 pm
#4568 Post by BesharamSabi » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:47 pm
Aww removing the one person leading the worcej wagon. How cute
#4569 Post by worcej » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:47 pm
Why would you suggest kgray over bozo or myself?
#4570 Post by kgray » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:47 pm
No you're right Vecna. I think it was a fairly innocent mistake on bozo's part and he clearly meant N1. I just think his argument, even with the phase being correct, isn't strong enough for town!bozo.Vecna wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:41 pmwell to be fair, that wasnt his argument as I understood it. It was contingent on it happening just after Chaqa claiming and night starting iirc?worcej wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pmI have two knights?! Lord have mercy on me.Vecna wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:23 pmIm back to hard-defending Worcej btw. I really dont like that wagon and im just back to thinking he's solidly town.
Even though I see some smidgets of a town'ish bozo in how he approached this, it is indeed interesting that he slipped up on some of the details. Worcej has a point that when Bozo is finding a reason to go for someone as scum, he often is a bit fuzzy on the exact details of how things happened exactly. What also sticks in my mind is, that when I was 3P - his reasoning revolved around "do these actions further the win-condition of said person". I know some people do not have the highest opinion of worcej, but would scum really make the error there of just blatantly and openly stating the thing that he uses as the prime evidence? Still, overall Bozo has felt a bit more chill this game, hasnt felt the need to force much, is just calmly observing and doesnt feel the utmost need to get scumreads (although its interesting this Worcej thing did pop in after he was accused of not having any scumreads, which is similar to his scumgame where he cannot get genuine scumreads to save his life).
Otherwise - in the massive text wall, are you asking would bozo blatantly make that mistake? My experience is yes he does, but they don't get noticed normally. I recall from watching older games that bozo slips and usually tries to coast under the radar when they happen to avoid being caught.
This is why I am hammering the point that his mistake of phases is important, because if I came out with what I said on D2 it would be a lot more scummy because of the planning time available to have those opinions.
Meh, maybe im misremembering the thing
#4571 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:48 pm
You are voting for Kgray. Is Kgray your top scumread? If nobody joins you, who are your other preferences?
#4572 Post by Vecna » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:48 pm
#4573 Post by worcej » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:48 pm
If what you're doing is considered 'leading' then we're fucked if you're town and still alive near EOG.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:47 pmAww removing the one person leading the worcej wagon. How cuteI love you too worcej. You're the bestest baby.
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#4574 Post by snowy801 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:51 pm
bozo did this last game too, and most of the games prior (both alignments)Chaqa wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:46 pmI very much dislike the worcej wagon. Throw me in the list of "worc knights" or w/e lol
I quite agree with the takes on Bozo. He feels very fake, too calm, and not at all himself this game. I'm pretty sure he's rolled scum. He also was one of the last people to cast a vote Day 1, which is something I've found to be scum-indicative (tom did it today too).
Jansah-Bozo-Tom-??? scumteam, calling my shot
#4575 Post by Vecna » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:51 pm
Like, I just want to make the note that I dont think Worcej goes all this meta-posting if he is scum?
#4576 Post by BesharamSabi » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:52 pm
Awww I'm trying to stay till the end of game just for you sweetheartworcej wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:48 pmIf what you're doing is considered 'leading' then we're fucked if you're town and still alive near EOG.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:47 pmAww removing the one person leading the worcej wagon. How cuteI love you too worcej. You're the bestest baby.
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#4578 Post by Vecna » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:54 pm
Its been a while. I was some sort of cop, and noone was suspicious of him untill I guiltied his ass I think.
#4579 Post by worcej » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:54 pm
**insert blue shirt man shrugging emoji**BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:52 pmAwww I'm trying to stay till the end of game just for you sweetheartworcej wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:48 pmIf what you're doing is considered 'leading' then we're fucked if you're town and still alive near EOG.BesharamSabi wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:47 pm
Aww removing the one person leading the worcej wagon. How cuteI love you too worcej. You're the bestest baby.
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We are ride or die, I will be on the worcej wagon till some other wagon convinces me more. Hopefully my gut is right on this one tho baby cakes. I luv you ♥
#4580 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:55 pm
What´s is on my mind right now is Vertix (a medicine you use when you have labyrinthitis crysis and made me sleep all morning). I couldn´t stand up and now I am doing my best to work without sleeping and also check this game, so take all I say with a grain of salt.snowy801 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:13 pmIt is kinda weird you've been stuck on unvote for the longest time rdrivera.ghug wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:08 am##VOTE rdrbozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:05 amWith the idea that the mafia might not want to scum read too many town players, I counted the number of different players everyone have voted for up to this point:
BesharamSabi: 4
Bonatogether: 6
bozo: 5
BunnyGo: 7
Chaqa: 9
damo: 7
Doom: 4
Durga: 9
Fluminator: 6
ghug: 11
Jamie: 7
jasnah: 3
kgray: 9
lfischl: 3
PE: 11
rdrivera: 2
snowy: 8
TFB: 8
Tom: 3
Vecna: 5
worcej: 3
I am interested to see how well this statistic correlates to the mafia.
I win
Is this behavior typical of you, would you say? What's on your mind?
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