M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Are you going to post that when you are done looking it up?

You're the one making the argument. You look it up.

The last 2 games I was in where Jamie was town were M1016 and M61, and he did not vote for me in those games.

You went back to M1012 before.

[ghug]

Boatman, why are you +1ing my posts out of order?

Eden and snowy, why do you townread Doom, Boat, kgray, Jamie, Bona, and each other?

Who ever said my ego wasn't useful?

[ghug]

If phone letter numbering started at 1, my current +1 count would spell ghug

[TheFlyingBoat]

Boatman, why are you +1ing my posts out of order?

Eden and snowy, why do you townread Doom, Boat, kgray, Jamie, Bona, and each other?

Who ever said my ego wasn't useful?

I randomly try to go back and read things and will plus one anything that I find amusing, interesting, or just feel like clicking +1 on. It is entirely arbitrary and without consistent reason. Tl;dr just cuz

[TheFlyingBoat]

With the idea that the mafia might not want to scum read too many town players, I counted the number of different players everyone have voted for up to this point:

BesharamSabi: 4
Bonatogether: 6
bozo: 5
BunnyGo: 7
Chaqa: 9
damo: 7
Doom: 4
Durga: 9
Fluminator: 6
ghug: 11
Jamie: 7
jasnah: 3
kgray: 9
lfischl: 3
PE: 11
rdrivera: 2
snowy: 8
TFB: 8
Tom: 3
Vecna: 5
worcej: 3

I am interested to see how well this statistic correlates to the mafia.

Is there a good way to control for activity here? This is actually a potentially interesting analysis if we can do it in a proper way. Part of me doubts it because i feel like while mafia may be reticent to target too many town players, some town players may have a proclivity to stick to their guns when they think they have someone nailed which reduces the number of switches they may have.

[BunnyGo]

What is your reasoning for 1 scum in bozo/eden/jamie?

Some of the things bozo have said are seem scummy and then eden and jamiet are just at each others throats.

Wait what things

@lfischl you’re probably not coming back, but more than one person would like an answer; please and thank you.

[BunnyGo]

I guess since ghug isn't obvtown he's my primary suspect now. And that's all I'll say on this because apparently this argument has merit.

##vote ghug

Lol

If it’s gladiator between Ghug and kgray…

[BunnyGo]

It's been bad.

Re: worcej, yes, but apparently people ignore everything that's been written if it wasn't in the past 5 pages. I'll write up a new summary uh eventually, I guess.

Sigh I never should've made that promise

give me the tldr on worcej

last game he died for being useless lurker
he thereby tries to do something early, and it's awkward and forced
it also never goes anywhere

he immediately believes Jasnah is scum unqualified as soon as Bunny claims
he's indignant that we outed cop instantly as soon as Chaqa claims (EoN that he apparently could be there immediately after for, but not post a single vote change for the two hours prior; sure, real life can suck but I imagine his "I'm with family" excuse last game was genuine but didn't make him any less scum)

he fades away today. Probably a real excuse, but no investment. He somehow always has time to attack my position, but never mention anything else

I guess. It sounded better in my head, but it's mostly a question of who else could it be

I think my case on bona is more convincing. “He’s setting my hackles up”

Not that worcej is a strong townread of mine. But I don’t find any of those reasons (jointly or severally) to be convincing.

[rdrivera2005]

Say what y'all will about kgray but I don't think Chaqa is town and I think there's actual 0% chance* she plays EOD1 the way she does as his partner in a no-flip game.













(*: fine it's like sub-1%, they're a crafty team, but the incentives aren't there)

Ghug's argument is that she is bussing Chaqa. I don't really but this, but why you think it can't happen?

[BunnyGo]

im happy

i made a wagon go brrr

this is a town reaction, right?

I’m starting to think so…maybe.

@bona I thought you were an Aussie. Are you in the US?

[BunnyGo]

If I'm wrong about this then this will truly be the worst thing I've ever pushed somebody on in mafia history, but I swear I remember you telling me (and several others) you had deleted your old Discord altogether after removing everyone and archiving it. I call cap.

I don’t think it would be against the rules of the game for me to provide a screenshot of my discord? Let me check that

No point, it would be trivial to remake it, and by necessity it could just be a screenshot from an earlier time, or edited to look like one.

I kind of doubt you'd actually go to the effort of faking a screenshot, but you could, and I also think this is borderline so I'd rather not make reading you about something like that.

I acknowledge it's a silly thing to press anyway, it just caught my attention.

Chaqa saying he was ready for a claim 6 hours before EOD is less towny than he thinks. What cop plans to claim? What was he going to do if someone else had claimed cop?

[BunnyGo]

Cognac is basically bad whisky prove me wrong

I don’t need to prove you wrong. But I need you to ship me your cognac. More for me.

[BunnyGo]

That's sad for you but also happy if you're parlaying sobriety into better things

I'm healthy and financially well off but also playing forum mafia on webdip so we'll call it 2/3

I was hiking with my real life friend a few weeks ago and he was like "Have you seen the webDip forum? Did you know that they play press mafia with manual adjudication? Who the fuck would do that?"

It was awkward.

You have a friend in the real world, who is aware of this site. And not aware that you’re on it?

[BunnyGo]

##vote bozo

also ##vote bozo

##vote bozo

Actually bozo is decent enough for now. At the very least it breaks this truly atrocious tie.

##VOTE bozotheclown

I want it noted that I prefer a few other kills though.

Can all of the above please tell me the reasons for their votes?

I want worcej, or Chaqa, but you’re the counterwagon to snowy. If the snowy wagon dissipates then I’ll keep my eyes open

Snowy isn’t a wagon. I’ll push myself if he still is at EOD. I’m loading my prearranged cop claim onto my phone now…

[BunnyGo]

It is kind of early to be worried about counter wagons. I think Chaqa is best resolved later either by the JOAT, oracle, or a cop CC, but I think worcej is a good scum candidate.

You should vote kgray with me

I think you are wrong about kgray, you should vote for Jamie with me.

I think you’re wrong about Jamie. You should vote bona with me.

[BunnyGo]

M1012:

##VOTE BOZOTHECLOWN

Bozo is just skimming the surface this game, dipping in a few times during the phase and reacting to or questioning things which he saw on the current page when he logged in.

He's making no effort to read the whole game even though the amount of activity is very low. For example he didn't post between pages 4 and 7. When he re-appeared on page 7, he only questioned or reacted to things posted on that page, nothing from pages 5 or 6 including a direct question which I asked him, that he ignored or did not notice.

As well as just apparently skimming the surface, there's no sign of Bozo's usual desire to investigate the mechanics of the game and use them to try to sort people.

Very unlike his usual self. He has been town the last few times I've played with him but something is different here.

This is going back further, but the 4 (previous) games I have reference are the last 4 games I have played where Jamie was mafia.

Do you have a spreadsheet somewhere with all historical game data? This is very impressive.

[BunnyGo]

It’s a bit reductive and unhelpful, but snowy is townier than you. I don’t even directly find you suspicious so much as you are less towny than many other players in the game.

And yet you're pigeonholing this as a two horse race with 15 hours left and not answering questions as to why?

I think my explanation is clear—I prefer other targets, but bozo is in my POE pool, snowy is clearly town, and at this moment that’s where the wagons sit. So knowing that I have limited time tomorrow, I have used my vote to consolidate behind the current lead counterwagon to snowy. It’s not like my vote is locked in, so I don’t see how I’m pigeonholing anything.

You could just sheep me at EOD.

[BunnyGo]

With the idea that the mafia might not want to scum read too many town players, I counted the number of different players everyone have voted for up to this point:

BesharamSabi: 4
Bonatogether: 6
bozo: 5
BunnyGo: 7
Chaqa: 9
damo: 7
Doom: 4
Durga: 9
Fluminator: 6
ghug: 11
Jamie: 7
jasnah: 3
kgray: 9
lfischl: 3
PE: 11
rdrivera: 2
snowy: 8
TFB: 8
Tom: 3
Vecna: 5
worcej: 3

I am interested to see how well this statistic correlates to the mafia.

Your hypothesis is that lower numbers will correlate to higher likelihood of scum?

[BunnyGo]

With the idea that the mafia might not want to scum read too many town players, I counted the number of different players everyone have voted for up to this point:

BesharamSabi: 4
Bonatogether: 6
bozo: 5
BunnyGo: 7
Chaqa: 9
damo: 7
Doom: 4
Durga: 9
Fluminator: 6
ghug: 11
Jamie: 7
jasnah: 3
kgray: 9
lfischl: 3
PE: 11
rdrivera: 2
snowy: 8
TFB: 8
Tom: 3
Vecna: 5
worcej: 3

I am interested to see how well this statistic correlates to the mafia.

##VOTE rdr

I win

I could see it…several of these low numbers are just lurking and not necessarily scum. But I could see rdrivera. What’s he done?

[bozotheclown]

With the idea that the mafia might not want to scum read too many town players, I counted the number of different players everyone have voted for up to this point:

BesharamSabi: 4
Bonatogether: 6
bozo: 5
BunnyGo: 7
Chaqa: 9
damo: 7
Doom: 4
Durga: 9
Fluminator: 6
ghug: 11
Jamie: 7
jasnah: 3
kgray: 9
lfischl: 3
PE: 11
rdrivera: 2
snowy: 8
TFB: 8
Tom: 3
Vecna: 5
worcej: 3

I am interested to see how well this statistic correlates to the mafia.

Is there a good way to control for activity here? This is actually a potentially interesting analysis if we can do it in a proper way. Part of me doubts it because i feel like while mafia may be reticent to target too many town players, some town players may have a proclivity to stick to their guns when they think they have someone nailed which reduces the number of switches they may have.

I am not sure I know what you are asking, but I do not know of a way to update this without manually checking the bot.