M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Durga]

@snowy I agree with most of that except for the first thing Chaqa should have said - I guess I'm operating differently than most people in this game for some reason but I didn't think Chaqa *actually* took back his claim. That was so obviously something any outted PR would do at night and scum wouldn't buy it anyway.

I mean... I really do hope Chaqa is scum so that we have a useful cop out there somewhere.

[President Eden]

I mean yeah he's not being toxic this time, but he has the past several times, and he flips out every game. He's been horribly rude to lfischl, me, and worcej among others, and for all his talk of flipping out at people because they're not helping town, either he's town not helping town, or he's scum taking advantage of a reputation he's developed not helping town. I'm tired of it.

I feel like we (Kouncil hat on, as Dargo might say) give you this answer a lot and nothing really happens, so I’m sorry to do it again, but can we postpone this until postgame? I regret even casually responding because this isn’t the venue for me to be speaking on behalf of two people in the game and not here right now, and two people outside the game. I’d reach out in DMs but ongoing game and such.

Also if this isn't Jamie being toxic, I don't want to see toxic.

It is, but I’m pretty confident that the way I’m handling it will best minimize drama. Y’all obviously have to sort him and I know this helps, but I regret feeding into the meta discussion and would like to save it til later if that’s alright.

No, it's not the venue for you to be talking about it, but I'm tired of y'all pretending to care when you don't. If you want to tell me to fuck off, tell me to fuck off. You can trust that there's no risk that I'll suddenly start respecting the council less.

Darg asked me before the game if I could handle Jamie playing, and I told him I'd suck it up until he inevitably started pulling the same shit again. This is only halfway there (which is still terrible, as is evidenced by Durga's reaction), but the leash should be shorter at this point. Y'all have warned me for daring to question it in much less aggressive terms than those he uses, so I'm sure you'll do it again.

I'll leave it at this: Jamie, go fuck yourself. I like you sometimes, but this is just sad. Either don't be an asshole, or stop playing for a little while. You're hurting feelings, and you're hurting whichever team you're on. It's no good.

I can't actually give a response that won't come off as PR-stalling here, so suffice to say I have read and acknowledged this post and will do what I can about it after the game. Sorry I can't give you anything better at the moment.

[Bonatogether]

##vote bona

Why are you doing these weird 'vote for one person, then switch to another immediately after' things?

Well...Jamie keeps telling me to. And town!Jamie usually knows what's what. But not when he's on tilt. So I keep trying to do what he says, but I'm not happy about it.

Then I decided: you know what? Bozo is reminding me of his scum game. Though he's usually more steady. But as soon as I voted him, YOU kept posting in ways I can't stop thinking "seriously? How is nobody calling him on this shit? Is he pulling the too scummy to be scum thing again, but everyone has played with him too much?"

So I'm voting you again.

And the short posts was because I was doing most of this on my phone while making sure my kids stayed asleep.

I have a ghug post that says 'town bona is voted off for being off-the-wall, and scum bona emulates this in an over-the-top way'. I consider this an accurate way of reading me, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that. I will note, however, that some people are townreading me for actually being towny this game

[snowy801]

At any rate, I'm fairly confident it wasn't damo unless I grossly misunderstand him so small mercies I guess

[Bonatogether]

Hey chaq...does this Bona stuff seem pushy to you? I can't put my finger on any specifics, but every time I start to wonder if he's town he sets off my hackles again.

You always scumread me, regardless of my alignment, from what I recall

Hmm...that's interesting. From what everyone is saying your game has improved a lot since we last played together.

What would you say has fundamentally changed since I last played with you?

That was m64? I'm more coherent and in control. I dunno.

[Bonatogether]

You always scumread me, regardless of my alignment, from what I recall

Hmm...that's interesting. From what everyone is saying your game has improved a lot since we last played together.

What would you say has fundamentally changed since I last played with you?

That was m64? I'm more coherent and in control. I dunno.

@ghug give me something quotable

[President Eden]

Hey chaq...does this Bona stuff seem pushy to you? I can't put my finger on any specifics, but every time I start to wonder if he's town he sets off my hackles again.

You always scumread me, regardless of my alignment, from what I recall

Hmm...that's interesting. From what everyone is saying your game has improved a lot since we last played together.

What would you say has fundamentally changed since I last played with you?

he's playing with me

[ghug]

<snip>

Hey I like kgray a lot. But she's scum.

Why?

Why do I have to explain this repeatedly?

Her vote today is bad. Her voting yesterday was weird, in retrospect. When she's town, she bleeds it out of every pore, whereas when she's scum she just kinda looks OK, which is what we're seeing here.

[BunnyGo]

You told ghug last night that you'll likely have something for us my this morning. Whatcha got?

Morning ain't yours, birch

Fun fact: I'm allergic to birch trees

My greatest nemesis

Wait...like walking past them? Stepping on their goddamn sharp and hard seed pods? Climbing them? Licking the bark?

[BunnyGo]

<snip>

Hey I like kgray a lot. But she's scum.

Why?

Why do I have to explain this repeatedly?

Her vote today is bad. Her voting yesterday was weird, in retrospect. When she's town, she bleeds it out of every pore, whereas when she's scum she just kinda looks OK, which is what we're seeing here.

Thanks, I'll take a look.

[Durga]

<snip>

Hey I like kgray a lot. But she's scum.

Why?

Why do I have to explain this repeatedly?

Her vote today is bad. Her voting yesterday was weird, in retrospect. When she's town, she bleeds it out of every pore, whereas when she's scum she just kinda looks OK, which is what we're seeing here.

I agree with this. I found it really easy to town read her when we played last.

[BunnyGo]

You always scumread me, regardless of my alignment, from what I recall

Hmm...that's interesting. From what everyone is saying your game has improved a lot since we last played together.

What would you say has fundamentally changed since I last played with you?

he's playing with me

THANKS BONA!!

[ghug]

Why are you doing these weird 'vote for one person, then switch to another immediately after' things?

Well...Jamie keeps telling me to. And town!Jamie usually knows what's what. But not when he's on tilt. So I keep trying to do what he says, but I'm not happy about it.

Then I decided: you know what? Bozo is reminding me of his scum game. Though he's usually more steady. But as soon as I voted him, YOU kept posting in ways I can't stop thinking "seriously? How is nobody calling him on this shit? Is he pulling the too scummy to be scum thing again, but everyone has played with him too much?"

So I'm voting you again.

And the short posts was because I was doing most of this on my phone while making sure my kids stayed asleep.

I have a ghug post that says 'town bona is voted off for being off-the-wall, and scum bona emulates this in an over-the-top way'. I consider this an accurate way of reading me, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that. I will note, however, that some people are townreading me for actually being towny this game

If you had rolled scum this game, how would you have changed your game to avoid that meta?

[kgray]

Why?

Why do I have to explain this repeatedly?

Her vote today is bad. Her voting yesterday was weird, in retrospect. When she's town, she bleeds it out of every pore, whereas when she's scum she just kinda looks OK, which is what we're seeing here.

Thanks, I'll take a look.

Don't waste your time, Bunny.

[President Eden]

Hmm...that's interesting. From what everyone is saying your game has improved a lot since we last played together.

What would you say has fundamentally changed since I last played with you?

he's playing with me

THANKS BONA!!

That would be incredibly illegal

[snowy801]

Morning ain't yours, birch

Fun fact: I'm allergic to birch trees

My greatest nemesis

Wait...like walking past them? Stepping on their goddamn sharp and hard seed pods? Climbing them? Licking the bark?

It's a very mild allergy (like mild itching in peak summer) and I was told this by my PCP years ago so I barely remember but I believe it was largely to pollen, though direct contact can be somewhat allergenic as well

Also re: Chaqa

Forgot to mention, scum!Chaqa wouldn't actually know who was VT and who was PR, which ups the likelihood of him picking a scum partner and banking on the no flip. Though it's equally likely he would've used the opportunity to go PR fishing so I don't know how valid this idea is, but there you go

[BunnyGo]

Hmm...that's interesting. From what everyone is saying your game has improved a lot since we last played together.

What would you say has fundamentally changed since I last played with you?

That was m64? I'm more coherent and in control. I dunno.

@ghug give me something quotable

No no, that's OK. I'm looking for your own assessment. Do you edit your posts before posting them? Delete many posts you've written out in full and just decide they aren't worth it? Or just type your thoughts as they come, but in a more coherent way?

[ghug]

he's playing with me

THANKS BONA!!

That would be incredibly illegal

Chaqa made this joke already. You're too derivative.

[President Eden]

THANKS BONA!!

That would be incredibly illegal

Chaqa made this joke already. You're too derivative.

[ghug]

Fun fact: I'm allergic to birch trees

My greatest nemesis

Wait...like walking past them? Stepping on their goddamn sharp and hard seed pods? Climbing them? Licking the bark?

It's a very mild allergy (like mild itching in peak summer) and I was told this by my PCP years ago so I barely remember but I believe it was largely to pollen, though direct contact can be somewhat allergenic as well

Also re: Chaqa

Forgot to mention, scum!Chaqa wouldn't actually know who was VT and who was PR, which ups the likelihood of him picking a scum partner and banking on the no flip. Though it's equally likely he would've used the opportunity to go PR fishing so I don't know how valid this idea is, but there you go

I can't remember anyone actually picking a partner in a fake cop claim.