M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

I mean, I think Jamie is at least as apathetic and content as Flum and I didn't like his post letting us know he was waiting for the bus.... I'd probably vote for him.

I don't get scum!worcej vibes but it's difficult for me to read him for personal reasons.

I dislike this push on damo but I don't really see Durga and ghug being scum together here.

This push on damo that currently has zero voters?

[kgray]

I mean, I think Jamie is at least as apathetic and content as Flum and I didn't like his post letting us know he was waiting for the bus.... I'd probably vote for him.

I don't get scum!worcej vibes but it's difficult for me to read him for personal reasons.

I dislike this push on damo but I don't really see Durga and ghug being scum together here.

What is your objection to public transport?

I'm not apathetic at all. I think Jasnah is the best vote here, for reasons that I have explained, and which Chaqa, who agrees with me, has also explained, so many times in fact that he was told to shut up about it by Vecna.

The whole thing felt like a weird preemptive excuse for you to not be around and I'm not sure I buy that town!Jamie parks votes on someone like this. Normally you'd at least be raging about how jasnah isn't even contributing.

[snowy801]

I missed this. Yep, he double down on calling PE obvtown. But I don´t really think this is so unusual to Damo.

He did not double down at all? He immediately relented

He made a post on page 109 calling PE obvtown again. What am I missing now?

She's arguing something else, because yes damo doubled down on PE obvtown, but Durga is talking about how she challenged the notion and damo (arguably) backed down.

[Jamiet99uk]

I voted for Fluminator because he was self voting according to the bot, although I knew my vote would not be official yet, just as Fluminator's self vote would not be official. Fluminator was also the only significant alternative to jasnah at the time.

Why did you deliberately cast a vote you knew would not be officially counted?

As I said, to draw attention to what Fluminator was doing with his voting.

Are you familiar with jasnah? Do you think claiming miller D1 as scum is something she would likely do?

1. What do you think was Fluminator's motivation? Do you accept his explanation that it was an elaborate scum hunting mechanism?

2. I'm not very familiar with Jasnah. I think I've seen Jasnah play once before. I think there is a more than random chance this was a (fairly bad) scum gambit, as I have already said.

[Chaqa]

What are they doing Chaqa? What are you doing?

Vecna told me I wasn't allowed to post why I was voting for jasnah again

Yes because that falls under the category of content with doing nothing. You're just repeating yourself over and over about jasnah and nothing else

Oh I’m sorry am I not allowed to feel comfortable with my vote because it wasn’t decided in the last five minutes?

[Jamiet99uk]

I mean, I think Jamie is at least as apathetic and content as Flum and I didn't like his post letting us know he was waiting for the bus.... I'd probably vote for him.

I don't get scum!worcej vibes but it's difficult for me to read him for personal reasons.

I dislike this push on damo but I don't really see Durga and ghug being scum together here.

What is your objection to public transport?

I'm not apathetic at all. I think Jasnah is the best vote here, for reasons that I have explained, and which Chaqa, who agrees with me, has also explained, so many times in fact that he was told to shut up about it by Vecna.

The whole thing felt like a weird preemptive excuse for you to not be around and I'm not sure I buy that town!Jamie parks votes on someone like this. Normally you'd at least be raging about how jasnah isn't even contributing.

I said I was more than willing to stay on Jasnah until she explains herself. She has not done so. She has gone into hiding. Town who had made a silly mistake might at least come back and admit that.

[snowy801]

Vecna told me I wasn't allowed to post why I was voting for jasnah again

Yes because that falls under the category of content with doing nothing. You're just repeating yourself over and over about jasnah and nothing else

Oh I’m sorry am I not allowed to feel comfortable with my vote because it wasn’t decided in the last five minutes?

Actually, yeah. That is really weird
Why would anyone ever be comfortable with any vote?

[Jamiet99uk]

Yes because that falls under the category of content with doing nothing. You're just repeating yourself over and over about jasnah and nothing else

Oh I’m sorry am I not allowed to feel comfortable with my vote because it wasn’t decided in the last five minutes?

Actually, yeah. That is really weird
Why would anyone ever be comfortable with any vote?

This is becoming very tedious.

Chaqa has made his logic very clear. As have I.

[Chaqa]

Yes because that falls under the category of content with doing nothing. You're just repeating yourself over and over about jasnah and nothing else

Oh I’m sorry am I not allowed to feel comfortable with my vote because it wasn’t decided in the last five minutes?

Actually, yeah. That is really weird
Why would anyone ever be comfortable with any vote?

You’ve played enough among us with me to know sometime I vote in the first 5 seconds.

I don’t have a better lead for today. I was voting worcej before all of this, and I’d be totally fine seeing him flip, but jasnah is the best day 1 flip from my perspective.

[rdrivera2005]

He did not double down at all? He immediately relented

He made a post on page 109 calling PE obvtown again. What am I missing now?

She's arguing something else, because yes damo doubled down on PE obvtown, but Durga is talking about how she challenged the notion and damo (arguably) backed down.

Thank you. Well, I can´t judge on that as I probably skipped this exchange and I won´t get back to read it (sorry).

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote worcej

I’m fine with this.

I understand where Durga is coming from regarding no scum motivation for jasnahs claim, but 1) there is no town motivation either and 2) she hasn’t exactly done on and explained herself.

Still think jasnah is probably scum. Still think worcej knows she is scum hence the snap reaction when bunny cc’d.

Chaqa is whatever - I suppose he falls into the camp of good scum players, so I don’t hate that wagon either.

[Chaqa]

Oh I’m sorry am I not allowed to feel comfortable with my vote because it wasn’t decided in the last five minutes?

Actually, yeah. That is really weird
Why would anyone ever be comfortable with any vote?

This is becoming very tedious.

Chaqa has made his logic very clear. As have I.

Agreed. It’s sounding like a bunch of children who aren’t getting their way and throwing a tantrum

[snowy801]

Oh my it is the oldest and the wisest

What wisdom have you to share?

[Chaqa]

##vote worcej

I’m fine with this.

I understand where Durga is coming from regarding no scum motivation for jasnahs claim, but 1) there is no town motivation either and 2) she hasn’t exactly done on and explained herself.

Still think jasnah is probably scum. Still think worcej knows she is scum hence the snap reaction when bunny cc’d.

Chaqa is whatever - I suppose he falls into the camp of good scum players, so I don’t hate that wagon either.

The whole “good scum player” thing still seems incredibly lazy from you Tom.

[worcej]

Quick highlight reel on worcej (not in order):



Weird conviction that jasnah was scum immediately after Bunny posted

That bizarre list of "useless observations" which independently might not have been so bad, but he hasn't taken it anywhere which says doing something for the sake of doing

Bizarre ire at people voting for him, constantly calling people voting for him as being bad instead of, you know, playing the game

Strange antipathy with kgray that I still can't make heads or tails of

Wants to kill BunnyGo despite thinking he's town

Never talks about the game just himself

etc.

##vote worcej

I dunno, someone sell me on Chaqa a bit harder

How many different times do I have to tell you I believed Bunny over jasnah?

What have you expected me to do with said list? I'm waiting on D1 and observing how people post. Non-version update is Jasnah is still a lurker and Jamie is a commentator.

Bizarre ire? Again, this is normal me - especially because the cases are shit.

kgray antipathy is irrelevant to anything right now.

I stated the only reason I want to kill BunnyGo is because we cannot be certain he is town. I'll hedge it now: if we don't kill him, near LyLo you'll see a conversation about how 'wait, are we sure Bunny is town?'

Never talks about the game just himself? Fuck off. I've been mostly talking about others numerous times and also the mechanics of this game.

worcej, I'm not an amateur to misconstrue you so. I ISO'd you before making that post, and saw in truth that you spoke of nobody but yourself. Best I can say is you thought Durga was scummy for the way she reacted to Jasnah/Bunny, and that you supported kgray wagon on account of "too good at scum", which is nothing really.

You can tell me or not tell me whatever you want, because for all that this group pretends otherwise nothing is not-alignment-indicative, but what you have told me so far says you're scum.

Why don't you try having a real opinion, for once? Hit me with it.

So my opinion on jasnah is not a real opinion? Nor is the opinion on BG? Nor the opinion on Sabi? Nor the opinion on the no kill? Nor the opinion that Durga is just treading water? Nor the opinions of all the people I grouped?

Fuck off painting me as if I have done nothing. Just because you don’t agree with my opinions or thoughts doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

My vote has been on Jasnah because she needs to go. She made an anti-town play and has fucked off. Most caught scum usually just stfu and stop playing when they are caught. Her play is totally in the realm of options because there are enough ‘I am too smart for my own good’-type people here that would slot her as town.

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote worcej

I’m fine with this.

I understand where Durga is coming from regarding no scum motivation for jasnahs claim, but 1) there is no town motivation either and 2) she hasn’t exactly done on and explained herself.

Still think jasnah is probably scum. Still think worcej knows she is scum hence the snap reaction when bunny cc’d.

Chaqa is whatever - I suppose he falls into the camp of good scum players, so I don’t hate that wagon either.

The whole “good scum player” thing still seems incredibly lazy from you Tom.

Yeah, well then I’ve always been lazy. I’m pretty much a POE player. I think it’s incredibly difficult to find scum D1. That’s why vocal people almost always get killed D1 is because people make up reasons to scum read them. Unless someone does something very scummy or strange (I.e jasnah) I pretty much will never kill a good town player. Similar thought process here

[kgray]

I mean, I think Jamie is at least as apathetic and content as Flum and I didn't like his post letting us know he was waiting for the bus.... I'd probably vote for him.

I don't get scum!worcej vibes but it's difficult for me to read him for personal reasons.

I dislike this push on damo but I don't really see Durga and ghug being scum together here.

This push on damo that currently has zero voters?

Yeah, it felt like trying to set up a counter wagon and since nobody is explaining why they scumread damo, and I have several times seen (and been a part of) people targeting damo as an early miskill because he does weird damo things, it's suspicious to me.

[DemonRHK]

​Completely Fallible Human Yet GM Vote Count Day One The Third
(Through post 2275)

jasnah(6) - BunnyGo*, worcej*, Doom427, Chaqa, damo666*, lfischl
worcej(5) - BesharamSabi, snowy801, bozotheclown, Durga, Tom Bombadil
Chaqa(4) - ghug, Fluminator, President Eden, rdrivera2005
Fluminator(2) - TheFlyingBoat, kgray
Bonatogether(1) - Tom Bombadil
President Eden(1) - jasnah
kgray(1) - Bonatogether
ghug(1) - Vecna

Currently, JASNAH is set to be killed.

2 Hours remain in Day 1.

[Fluminator]

apathy, mostly

You're calling me apathetic over the people content just voting jasnah the whole day?

If she doesn't, I will. I know what it's like to try going fishing instead of baring your soul so I let you breathe but what have you to show for it?

Nothing.

Honestly I would have never agreed to sign up had I read the setup first. Lack of soul is different from lack of concern though.

[rdrivera2005]

How many different times do I have to tell you I believed Bunny over jasnah?

What have you expected me to do with said list? I'm waiting on D1 and observing how people post. Non-version update is Jasnah is still a lurker and Jamie is a commentator.

Bizarre ire? Again, this is normal me - especially because the cases are shit.

kgray antipathy is irrelevant to anything right now.

I stated the only reason I want to kill BunnyGo is because we cannot be certain he is town. I'll hedge it now: if we don't kill him, near LyLo you'll see a conversation about how 'wait, are we sure Bunny is town?'

Never talks about the game just himself? Fuck off. I've been mostly talking about others numerous times and also the mechanics of this game.

worcej, I'm not an amateur to misconstrue you so. I ISO'd you before making that post, and saw in truth that you spoke of nobody but yourself. Best I can say is you thought Durga was scummy for the way she reacted to Jasnah/Bunny, and that you supported kgray wagon on account of "too good at scum", which is nothing really.

You can tell me or not tell me whatever you want, because for all that this group pretends otherwise nothing is not-alignment-indicative, but what you have told me so far says you're scum.

Why don't you try having a real opinion, for once? Hit me with it.

So my opinion on jasnah is not a real opinion? Nor is the opinion on BG? Nor the opinion on Sabi? Nor the opinion on the no kill? Nor the opinion that Durga is just treading water? Nor the opinions of all the people I grouped?

Fuck off painting me as if I have done nothing. Just because you don’t agree with my opinions or thoughts doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

My vote has been on Jasnah because she needs to go. She made an anti-town play and has fucked off. Most caught scum usually just stfu and stop playing when they are caught. Her play is totally in the realm of options because there are enough ‘I am too smart for my own good’-type people here that would slot her as town.

I think this is town Worcej.