M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

More than anything, I hate that people can hide behind "obviously we vote out Jasnah" without really giving their thoughts on the game entire, which is why a valid counterwagon needs to be formed regardless of whether we vote her out.

Ok. I've given you my views on who that counter-wagon might be. I don't think much of Flum as the current counter-wagon, I'll say that.

[Fluminator]

##Vote Chaqa

[TheFlyingBoat]

It seems like we're at the point where there needs to be a concerted effort to save jasnah.

Why does there need to be any such thing?

Because I like winning games I play? I don't think you're scum but jesus your questions have been annoyingly dumb. First, insinuating that I couldn't figure out you're from the UK with a question of why I bothered "defending" jasnah by trying to steer conversation to resolving questions on our own when "asking the source" was unlikely to turn up any answers and now by asking why we're trying to avoid wasting a day kill in an NR game on a VT? Are you going to ask why we're not day killing Power Roles next, Jamie? We should be focused on hunting scum with the limited time we have left in the day to increase the odds we actually win this game.

[Fluminator]

How many games of mafia have you played before Doom? What would you say your experience level is?

[snowy801]

Chaqa could be it, but I'm not feeling it so hard

Anyone still up for worcej?

[President Eden]

It seems like we're at the point where there needs to be a concerted effort to save jasnah.

I'm open to voting for:
Chaqa
Damo
Doom
Jamie
lfischl
TFB

I have reservations about Durga, kgray, and Eden, but they can wait a day. Damo is almost in this group but I think he's scum.
I'm leaning slightly town on worcej, but could probably be convinced to kill him for memes.

Should have said this in the previous response, but Chaqa, Jamie, lfischl, Durga, and kgray are all fine options in my book.

I guess Flum should be on the list if I'm right about a lot of the big talkers being town, so maybe that's a fine alternative, but I'm not big on it.

[President Eden]

##VOTE Chaqa

[Durga]

I can't recall a single Ifischil post. Who is that?

[Durga]

##vote chaqa

[TheFlyingBoat]

Jasnah has made 8 posts, the last of which was over 20 hours ago, and made a hard-claim which has been plausibly counter-claimed.

I don't see a strong reason to battle to keep Jasnah alive. There's significantly more than random chance that Jasnah is scum and, even if not, Jasnah is doing nothing to help town whatsoever.

This is the only decent justification for the wagon

[BesharamSabi]

Pros of Voting to Kills Jasnah

• may have fake claimed miller
  
  Has not posted in over 20 hours thus not helping town
  
  Could possibly be scum
  
  Can scan/ocale her if she's dead to get answer

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Cons of Voting to Kill Jasnah

• could be VT
  
  Could actually be miller
  
  Should not have a d1 kill

Am I correct in this or am I missing anything?

[TheFlyingBoat]

I can't recall a single Ifischil post. Who is that?

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... er=lfischl

Not a memorable post to be found haha

[snowy801]

Quick highlight reel on worcej (not in order):

Man... I was looking forward to jasnah's presence this game...

##Vote jasnah
##end

Weird conviction that jasnah was scum immediately after Bunny posted

That bizarre list of "useless observations" which independently might not have been so bad, but he hasn't taken it anywhere which says doing something for the sake of doing

Bizarre ire at people voting for him, constantly calling people voting for him as being bad instead of, you know, playing the game

Strange antipathy with kgray that I still can't make heads or tails of

Wants to kill BunnyGo despite thinking he's town

Never talks about the game just himself

etc.

##vote worcej

I dunno, someone sell me on Chaqa a bit harder

[Jamiet99uk]

It seems like we're at the point where there needs to be a concerted effort to save jasnah.

Why does there need to be any such thing?

Because I like winning games I play? I don't think you're scum but jesus your questions have been annoyingly dumb. First, insinuating that I couldn't figure out you're from the UK with a question of why I bothered "defending" jasnah by trying to steer conversation to resolving questions on our own when "asking the source" was unlikely to turn up any answers and now by asking why we're trying to avoid wasting a day kill in an NR game on a VT? Are you going to ask why we're not day killing Power Roles next, Jamie? We should be focused on hunting scum with the limited time we have left in the day to increase the odds we actually win this game.

You're a funny kind of Ghug.

I think there's a decent chance Jasnah is scum.

Anyway, calm down, relax, it's a game.

[Doom427]

How many games of mafia have you played before Doom? What would you say your experience level is?

Lol, um, back when I was on this site in high school, I saw the threads to the side and wondered what the hell was going on and would lurk a bit. Now that I'm out of college, I decided to come back to the site and decided I wanted to try this. I played that 5 minute ultimate werewolf game a bit? That's it. So I'm super beginner, which is why I'm not commenting on discussions that aren't miller stuff, cause I don't totally get those arguments. Miller talk, and if we should day 1 kill, I think I can chat about and help town+ show I'm town. Everything else I think I'd just be adding posts to a thread that's already... too long.

[Jamiet99uk]

I can't recall a single Ifischil post. Who is that?

LfischL is a pretty low-intensity person:

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... er=lfischl

[BesharamSabi]

Quick highlight reel on worcej (not in order):

Man... I was looking forward to jasnah's presence this game...

##Vote jasnah
##end

Weird conviction that jasnah was scum immediately after Bunny posted

That bizarre list of "useless observations" which independently might not have been so bad, but he hasn't taken it anywhere which says doing something for the sake of doing

Bizarre ire at people voting for him, constantly calling people voting for him as being bad instead of, you know, playing the game

Strange antipathy with kgray that I still can't make heads or tails of

Wants to kill BunnyGo despite thinking he's town

Never talks about the game just himself

etc.

##vote worcej

I dunno, someone sell me on Chaqa a bit harder

I might be back on worcej wagon if more people join.

[President Eden]

Pros of Voting to Kills Jasnah

• may have fake claimed miller
  
  Has not posted in over 20 hours thus not helping town
  
  Could possibly be scum
  
  Can scan/ocale her if she's dead to get answer

---

Cons of Voting to Kill Jasnah

• could be VT
  
  Could actually be miller
  
  Should not have a d1 kill

Am I correct in this or am I missing anything?

There's value to removing one of jasnah or BunnyGo and using one of town's powers to figure out the role, so that we resolve the Miller situation. Of the two, jasnah is much more likely to be fakeclaiming, and so is the best removal choice. That's the pro argument in a nutshell, and it doesn't particularly depend on jasnah's alignment.

The con argument is that there's an appreciable chance she is town, and that if she is, we could alternatively resolve the situation by not voting either of them and assuming jasnah was town and fakeclaiming, then moving on to vote for people who could actually be mafia.

Where people fall more or less depends on whether they think jasnah is town.

[snowy801]

Quick highlight reel on worcej (not in order):

Man... I was looking forward to jasnah's presence this game...

##Vote jasnah
##end

Weird conviction that jasnah was scum immediately after Bunny posted

That bizarre list of "useless observations" which independently might not have been so bad, but he hasn't taken it anywhere which says doing something for the sake of doing

Bizarre ire at people voting for him, constantly calling people voting for him as being bad instead of, you know, playing the game

Strange antipathy with kgray that I still can't make heads or tails of

Wants to kill BunnyGo despite thinking he's town

Never talks about the game just himself

etc.

##vote worcej

I dunno, someone sell me on Chaqa a bit harder

I might be back on worcej wagon if more people join.

I'm not going to lie I was going to find more quotes but my boss called and I was like uhh, yeah I'm working

[BunnyGo]

It seems like we're at the point where there needs to be a concerted effort to save jasnah.

I'm open to voting for:
Chaqa
Damo
Doom
Jamie
lfischl
TFB

I have reservations about Durga, kgray, and Eden, but they can wait a day. Damo is almost in this group but I think he's scum.
I'm leaning slightly town on worcej, but could probably be convinced to kill him for memes.

Why that list? What’s convinced you about Damo lately?