M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE FluxCapacitor

[kgray]

I don't like people who push false narratives and try to mislead us. It's not pro-town behaviour in my view.

Yes but how often are scum trying to do that by actually doctoring posts?

I have certainly seen Hellenic Riot do that as scum. If I recall correctly there was one game in which HR doctored one of his own posts to make it look as if he had asked someone a question (which his own original post did not contain), and then he super-aggressively pushed that person for "not answering" said question.

Lol that does sound like scum!HR. I guess I disagree that Flum’s gimmick is something he’s more likely to do as scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

It is fascinatingly easy to vote for Flum as far as the Peterbot is concerned.

[Vecna]

@Vecna: Do you continue to scumread me? If so, why, and for what reasons?

Youve posted quite a bunch by now and im not townreading you, so im worried.

[kgray]

Vecna why do you think bunny isn’t acting like the Miller?

[Vecna]

What about this post makes you think jasnah is more scummy than the rest of her posts?

Is this really a serious question?

Yes, actually. This post seems exactly what I expect from jasnah and you know her also, so I’m surprised you’d react to it that way.

Based on what do you have these expectations then? Because Jasnah was quite serious/competent in her previous games.

There are many reasons to be fakeclaiming and hoping u dont get cc'd, but then proceeding to just continue trolling and voting the actual role u were trying to claim just feels like youre trying to push whatever gimmick over the top to where it no longer is in towns favor to be playing that way.

[kgray]

Vecna why do you think bunny isn’t acting like the Miller?

Oh, sorry if you just hadn’t caught up.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Vecna: Do you continue to scumread me? If so, why, and for what reasons?

Youve posted quite a bunch by now and im not townreading you, so im worried.

This is exceptionally vague and very hard for me to respond to. Can you be more specific?

[Vecna]

Its not a serious scumread atm jamiet, and its also not the right time to be pressing your buttons, so imma just let it be.

[Vecna]

Vecna why do you think bunny isn’t acting like the Miller?

Oh, sorry if you just hadn’t caught up.

Its not that, its just when I made the comment he was being a lot more quiet/reserved, and non-commanding if you will. It changed a bit after I made the comment.

[kgray]

Is this really a serious question?

Yes, actually. This post seems exactly what I expect from jasnah and you know her also, so I’m surprised you’d react to it that way.

Based on what do you have these expectations then? Because Jasnah was quite serious/competent in her previous games.

There are many reasons to be fakeclaiming and hoping u dont get cc'd, but then proceeding to just continue trolling and voting the actual role u were trying to claim just feels like youre trying to push whatever gimmick over the top to where it no longer is in towns favor to be playing that way.

I think she was competent but never seemed that serious? It was all an over the top facade that she was the town savior. Just mega trolling.

I sort of read this the same way but yeah, okay. Your second point makes sense.

[Durga]

How would scum!Durga know jasnah was "obviously faking" if jasnah is town? Durga would have no idea who the miller is. And why would scum!Durga defend her teammate jasnah?

To be more precise, Durga's post indicated that she immediately believed that jasnah was both town and fakeclaiming. That obviously means BG is the genuine Miller and is also town. Reaching a conclusion that one is genuine and one is fakeclaiming obviously doesn't indicate anything (one of them has to be, and there's no inherent reason why quickly deciding that jasnah was the fakeclaimer is suspicious). Reaching the conclusion that both of them are town, that quickly, may indicate foreknowledge that both were town, which Durga would have if she were mafia.

It's not a 100% logical proof and of course you're free to disagree with my suspicion that she reached that conclusion due to foreknowledge from being mafia. But it isn't that she knew which Miller claim was fake, but rather that she believed both were town.

I think there's a flaw in this argument but I'm going to wait and see if Durga has replied to it.

(I'm about 11 pages back...)

Actually I read the first sentence and decided not to read the rest

[Jamiet99uk]

Its not a serious scumread atm jamiet, and its also not the right time to be pressing your buttons, so imma just let it be.

Well, you're kinda wasting your vote because nobody else is on me.

[Vecna]

##vote Ghug

[Jamiet99uk]

Reaching the conclusion that both of them are town, that quickly, may indicate foreknowledge that both were town, which Durga would have if she were mafia.

I think there's a flaw in this argument but I'm going to wait and see if Durga has replied to it.

(I'm about 11 pages back...)

Actually I read the first sentence and decided not to read the rest

Ok well I'll address the flaw in PE's reasoning that occurred to me.

I've left in the paragraph that bothered me somewhat.

From my perspective:

1. There were two Miller claims.
2. It seems utterly absurd that two people would fake-claim Miller.
3. Therefore one of them is surely town and is the real Miller.
4. So the only part that needs any thinking about is whether the other Miller claimant is town or scum. Not "both" of them.
5. Durga had reached a quick conclusion on this, but that's much less of a deductive leap (whether it's right or wrong) than PE was implying - in my view at least.

That was all.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Ghug

Why Ghug?

Why don't you explain your votes?

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Ghug

[DemonRHK]

##CALL DARGORYGEL (the Bot GM):
and ##CALL GM for the sake of accurate Vote Counting:

The Bot is picking up votes for "FlyingBoat" (without the "The") as if they are votes for Fluminator.

Votes for "TheFlyingBoat" (with the correct "The" at the start) are being correctly logged.

I wonder if the Bot can be tweaked to distinguish between "Flum" and "Flying" ?

##GM NOTE

Jamie is correct. While the bot shows 6 Votes for flum there are at least two votes not counted correctly:

- Flum's own vote, which is on TheFlyingBoat
- Jamie's attempt to test the constraints of the bot, which will be counted as being on jasnah at this time.

Players are encouraged to please for the time being to make sure that you do lead any votes for TheFlyingBoat with 'The' or 'TFB' and to make sure that any votes for Fluminator contain at the least, 'flum', as it seems the bot picks up any workd beginning with 'fl-' as a flum vote.

Manual vote counts will be posted at 6, 2, and 1 hours to go, as well as least 30, 10, and 5 minutes to EoD.

[Durga]

I don't like people who push false narratives and try to mislead us. It's not pro-town behaviour in my view.

This is deliberate, not a subtle thing where they are simply skewing the narrative at least.

[Durga]

In these posts, Flum noticed the Bot error and even attempted to create a fake wagon on himself:

Can everyone please vote flyingboat and ##End it?

Please trust me. I'm usually correct on early reads.

No, please vote "flyingboat". Not "the flyingboat"

Crazy shit.

Ohhh that's what that was about LOL