M70 - THE BASKIN-ROBBINS CONSPIRACY [HIDDEN]

[Vecna]

I find worcejs reaction extremely suspicious if jasnah is scum considering how quick he was to immediately think she must be scum from a play that makes zero sense as either alignment.

Irrationality is kinda worcej's town MO, isn't it?

I think I make a lot of sense with my town play. Get on my level.

You really feel the need a lot to use the word town a lot when describing yourself and your play, eh?

[Jamiet99uk]

Also where the hell is Jasnah? I feel that she should be held responsible for creating the situation she has birthed.

We're talking circles around the contention when we can ask the source.

Agree.

[Vecna]

##vote jamiet

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote jamiet

Because?

[President Eden]

Why would she need to be removed if town? That doesn’t make sense

Because it's awful and I don't expect much value from her as town down the road.

Also, let's say we do keep her alive. At some point, say D5, she'll become a leading 'what if she wasn't a VT after all...' contender to be miskilled then.

Deal with the crap in front of you now so scum cannot utilize it later.

This isn't the worst reason this group has used for a day 1 vote before

[ghug]

I know you don't think I'm scum.

Would you then say ghug is doing this because he's scum?

I'm leaning that way. I was leaning that way prior because whenever he's scum he does this thing where he tries to undermine me and he's been doing a lot of that by calling my comments weird or odd or wrong without backing it up. I don't buy that town!ghug's two votes were me and jasnah here

I said a specific comment was weird that a bunch of other people called weird too, and there's been a lot of explanation as to what was weird about it.

Last night you said that scum ghug townreads you inexplicably.

[Vecna]

Because you have failed to make an impression thusfar. And all your stances feel theyre a little too black and white, because it still is difficult to do a good impression of classic jamiet stubborness.

[Jamiet99uk]

Because you have failed to make an impression thusfar. And all your stances feel theyre a little too black and white, because it still is difficult to do a good impression of classic jamiet stubborness.

I have literally no idea what you mean. Try harder.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Rdrivera: Why are you so inactive, and when do you expect to start playing?

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM:

Are you going to post any Vote Counts or are you expecting us to rely entirely on a third party bot to do that work for you?

[Jamiet99uk]

I am going to sleep.

I expect clear responses from Jasnah by the time I awake. If they ain't forthcoming, my vote ain't moving.

Sweet dreams, Fellow Townspeople.

[Bonatogether]

##vote kgray

tied the vote, can we get this wagon going?

kgray, huh? Sell me on this. What makes her scum?

a decent amount of small things

a) comments about me and her being buddies are a thing she did as scum recently

b) viewtopic.php?p=257194#p257194 (if i really was celaph i'd do the fancy link business) is something that like, I've never heard of? It doesn't jibe with what I know of Chaqa (and Eden's take agrees with me), it plays off what Durga said in a way to shade Chaqa but then claims that she's on his side (which in other comments she is), so I scum this interaction

c) Weird disagreement with worcej's post of good scum players, which is broadly right (and has me on it so that's good). I have some slight quibbles with it, like I would put rdr on it, but kgray's previous list of people she isn't willing to dk today does not have sufficient overlap for there to be only 1.5 players on worcej's list.

d) viewtopic.php?p=257333#p257333

[BesharamSabi]

Re reading the earlier exchanges funnily enough has flipped me on Durga and given me very strong town reads. I still the PE is town and think his grilling of Durga while incorrect was coming from a townie place and appreciated his other posts. Jasnah is all but confirmed VT to me based on this reread and unless there is another CC I buy that Bunny is the Miller. If we could start a bandwagon on literally anyone else I'd be much happier.

As for bunny, if I am wrong on bunny, I think it is almost certain that worcej is also scum. I still get slight scum reads based on the desire to quick hammer jasnah, but I don't necessarily view that as ironclad proof of anything

I think Jamie's obstinance here is town-ish, though I really, really think they should reconsider their view. Jasnah has proven in the past to be a good scum hunter.

I have slight scum reads on Sabi based on their response to Bunny's claim, but that's ultimately I think attributable to being new.I strongly disagree with some people's claims here that fluidly shitposting in a comfortable manner while disengaging as much as possible is a town sign for a new player to the site that has played mafia before. That seems pretty off-base.

Fluminator seems kinda off to me as well given he seems to have indicated he has a reputation for low volume and wanted to change it, but most of his post count was just silly attempts to see what the Bot would count as a vote and what it wouldn't. I also didn't like his desire to steer the no vote so heavily before jumping randomly at damo (no read either way on damo as of now). That seemed pretty odd. I'll be truly back in like 7 hours since I have lots of work to finish before my late night sync, but knowing me I'll probably pop in a couple times more than I should between now and then.

Where are you getting the scum vibes???

[President Eden]

Town: Sabi, Bona, bozo, Bunny, Chaqa, damo, Doom, snowy, Boat, Vecna, worcej

Town lean: Flum, ghug, Jamie

Unknown: jasnah, rivera, Tom, kgray

Suspicious: Durga, lfischl

[TheFlyingBoat]

Also where the hell is Jasnah? I feel that she should be held responsible for creating the situation she has birthed.

We're talking circles around the contention when we can ask the source.

Agree.

It's 12am in the United Kingdom, mate, I don't know what to tell you.

[Bonatogether]

the meta post that had 0 effort

Good now apply this to this game

alright nerd

this is everyone's alignment based on my meta post

bozo is scummy under my metric

bungo town?

chaqa scummy

damo null

doom town

durga something

flum isn't playing to meta

ghug is a tryhard in a not-town way. idk if it's scum yet

jamie doesn't have enough posts to read

jasnah town

kgray is scumlean

lfischl doing his lurking thing again but a little more invested? i'd scum that but i could see it either way

eden townier

rdr unreadable

snowy is not-scum but idk if it's especially townie behavoir

boat guy hasn't said much

vecna idk

worchester sauce man feels townier

[Bonatogether]

hi lfischl

post

[TheFlyingBoat]

Re reading the earlier exchanges funnily enough has flipped me on Durga and given me very strong town reads. I still the PE is town and think his grilling of Durga while incorrect was coming from a townie place and appreciated his other posts. Jasnah is all but confirmed VT to me based on this reread and unless there is another CC I buy that Bunny is the Miller. If we could start a bandwagon on literally anyone else I'd be much happier.

As for bunny, if I am wrong on bunny, I think it is almost certain that worcej is also scum. I still get slight scum reads based on the desire to quick hammer jasnah, but I don't necessarily view that as ironclad proof of anything

I think Jamie's obstinance here is town-ish, though I really, really think they should reconsider their view. Jasnah has proven in the past to be a good scum hunter.

I have slight scum reads on Sabi based on their response to Bunny's claim, but that's ultimately I think attributable to being new.I strongly disagree with some people's claims here that fluidly shitposting in a comfortable manner while disengaging as much as possible is a town sign for a new player to the site that has played mafia before. That seems pretty off-base.

Fluminator seems kinda off to me as well given he seems to have indicated he has a reputation for low volume and wanted to change it, but most of his post count was just silly attempts to see what the Bot would count as a vote and what it wouldn't. I also didn't like his desire to steer the no vote so heavily before jumping randomly at damo (no read either way on damo as of now). That seemed pretty odd. I'll be truly back in like 7 hours since I have lots of work to finish before my late night sync, but knowing me I'll probably pop in a couple times more than I should between now and then.

I quite like this, but want to point out that just because we think Jasnah was fake claiming shouldn't exonerate her entirely. It makes no sense as scum, but neither does it really make sense as town.

I mean I don't think she is, but I imagine a more enterprising sort might employ this to get some significant cred while equally giving on out on why they're not dying night after night

It's not just that I think she's fake claiming that exonerates her, it's what other people have said about it and her during the discussion that gives me a really strong belief they're a vanilla townie.

[TheFlyingBoat]

the meta post that had 0 effort

Good now apply this to this game

alright nerd

this is everyone's alignment based on my meta post

bozo is scummy under my metric

bungo town?

chaqa scummy

damo null

doom town

durga something

flum isn't playing to meta

ghug is a tryhard in a not-town way. idk if it's scum yet

jamie doesn't have enough posts to read

jasnah town

kgray is scumlean

lfischl doing his lurking thing again but a little more invested? i'd scum that but i could see it either way

eden townier

rdr unreadable

snowy is not-scum but idk if it's especially townie behavoir

boat guy hasn't said much

vecna idk

worchester sauce man feels townier

In what world have I not said much? I feel like I've said a fuck ton about the virtue of day killing and was one of the early leaders of the charge for that with multiple posts chock full of terrible prose defending it. Same with the miller D1 reveal. Also posted some reads that other people actually found pleasant to read, smh

[TheFlyingBoat]

##vote kgray

tied the vote, can we get this wagon going?

kgray, huh? Sell me on this. What makes her scum?

a decent amount of small things

a) comments about me and her being buddies are a thing she did as scum recently

b) viewtopic.php?p=257194#p257194 (if i really was celaph i'd do the fancy link business) is something that like, I've never heard of? It doesn't jibe with what I know of Chaqa (and Eden's take agrees with me), it plays off what Durga said in a way to shade Chaqa but then claims that she's on his side (which in other comments she is), so I scum this interaction

c) Weird disagreement with worcej's post of good scum players, which is broadly right (and has me on it so that's good). I have some slight quibbles with it, like I would put rdr on it, but kgray's previous list of people she isn't willing to dk today does not have sufficient overlap for there to be only 1.5 players on worcej's list.

d) viewtopic.php?p=257333#p257333

This is actually interesting I am still leaning Flum, but that kill strong scum in an NR game does seem somewhat reasonable to me as well.