MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[peterlund]

We should all reread all of Jamie's game postings to figure out if we can find any leads to scum or SK in there. This is the link: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... Jamiet99uk

[DoubtingThomas]

We should all reread all of Jamie's game postings to figure out if we can find any leads to scum or SK in there. This is the link: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... Jamiet99uk

I doubt we will learn anything from him

he just tunneled brain the whole game and me half the game

???

[peterlund]

I doubt we will learn anything from him
he just tunneled brain the whole game and me half the game

So you do not want us to reread Jamie? Interesting!

[DoubtingThomas]

I doubt we will learn anything from him
he just tunneled brain the whole game and me half the game

So you do not want us to reread Jamie? Interesting!

No, I want you to reread Jamie

but I still doubt we will learn shit because he played so bad the whole game

but I have begun to reread his thing already :)

[Squigs44]

Well shoot. I find it interesting that Bismarck voted a vanity wagon. Jamie was such a popular scumread that mafia could've voted however they wanted. Definitely going to have to reevaluate, especially with regards to my Brainbomb/worcej reads.

[Foxcastle]

In case I die

rdivera -- TOWN

Fox -- prob scum

You should 1) probably come up with a full list of reads for us to think about in case you die and flip town, 2) you should probably actually build a case on me rather than OMGUS.

[damo666]

Well now it's either Brain/worcej or Brain/Bismarck

[BismarckAlive]

Damo666,

Do you deny my theory that you were visited N2?

[BismarckAlive]

Game situation/strategy post,

Now we are at a still-good stage where there are 9 Town and 3 Enemies.

The ratio is important, because we have to ensure we kill the 3 enemies before we run out of Town. We can only lynch one person a day, and we have 1 JOAT Night Kill. Mafia and SK can kill 2 people per night. So, assuming no clashes/offsets, we have 3 game days/nights to get it right.

Is it time yet for Town PR to hard claim? This is my first Mafia game, so I would like to understand our relative position vis-a-vis what the experienced players have seen before.

[BismarckAlive]

And I will reiterate what I think the night action has been to date:

N1 - SK killed Ike, and Mafia killed DrCJG
N2 - SK killed Yav, Mafia tried killing SK, so nothing happened

Now, if that is correct, then SK is killing Town people first, so that is why I assume two Town deaths per night.

[Squigs44]

Game situation/strategy post,

Now we are at a still-good stage where there are 9 Town and 3 Enemies.

The ratio is important, because we have to ensure we kill the 3 enemies before we run out of Town. We can only lynch one person a day, and we have 1 JOAT Night Kill. Mafia and SK can kill 2 people per night. So, assuming no clashes/offsets, we have 3 game days/nights to get it right.

Is it time yet for Town PR to hard claim? This is my first Mafia game, so I would like to understand our relative position vis-a-vis what the experienced players have seen before.

Bad idea. It's night. If we hard claim, scum/SK pick off two of the PRs and we are much much worse for it. Scum would all just claim VT, and since there are 5 (did I do the math right) of us, they would blend in. Now if two VTs died tonight, then we can talk about that possibility since the numbers would be more in our favor.

[damo666]

Bismarck - I deny I am SK.

However, I don't know if I've been visited, I wouldn't know would I?

[damo666]

Bismarck - I don't understand your assertion that SK is killing Town first. SK doesn't know who is Town and who is mafia, right?

Or are you saying you believe SK just happens to have killed town twice?

[bozotheclown]

Jamie flipping town reinforces my opinion that the mafia would not risk bussing the ninja, so we should be looking at the four who never voted for teacher. If anyone was bussing teacher I think it would be brainbomb. Knowing Jamie was town makes his switch from peter to teacher after Jamie unvoted look like possible bussing, since he might have expected Jamie to eventually go back to voting for teacher. If he was concerned Jamie would go back to voting for teacher at the last minute, he might have voted for teacher to give teacher time to make a fake claim.

[Foxcastle]

The three people who ended on Brainbomb on Day 1 were all town... Jamiet, Yavuz, thedipplayer.

The most votes he ever had Day 1 was six (up to 5:20 out), which was those three plus Bismarck, Damo, and Flash. Doubting Thomas also had a vote on Brainbomb for a few hours with a full day to go. Do we think that, on Day 1 with no guidance, new players would bus Brainbomb? His behavior certainly justifies it, but I think that's unlikely.

Is it possible no scum voted Brainbomb Day 1?

[damo666]

Perhaps Bismarck did so under Brainbomb's guidance.

[Foxcastle]

It was Day 1, they would not yet have had the opportunity to discuss or strategize.

[damo666]

Oh yes. Agree then.

[BismarckAlive]

Mafia knew who Mafia were Day 1. This is when Teacher 2 coached Worcej and Vecna in how he thought they should proceed. It is where Worcej got the idea of his hidden messages, and where Vecna got his Teacher 2 theories (re-read Vecna).

Damo666,
I theorise you got a message last night like "...You were visited/targeted last night, but nothing happened". That is because my theory says you were targeted by Mafia because they thought you are PR.

Don't worry. Mafia now know you are SK too, because they got their surprise last night in a PM saying something like "...your target survived your attack". I don't think VETERAN played his Alert last night, so your goose is cooked.

We are nearing the business end of this game. Who you gonna kill tonight?

[BismarckAlive]

And my theory is no assertion just yet.

My theory says SK killed Ike and Yav. They both flipped Town, so I am just following logic there.