Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[ghug]

I'm unimpressed with Chaqa's voting hesitance.

[Chaqa]

I'm unimpressed with Chaqa's voting hesitance.

TBH I thought I had already voted.

##Vote Bona

[ghug]

I'm unimpressed with Chaqa's voting hesitance.

TBH I thought I had already voted.

##Vote Bona

Who do you think his partner is?

[Chaqa]

I'm unimpressed with Chaqa's voting hesitance.

TBH I thought I had already voted.

##Vote Bona

Who do you think his partner is?

Unsure.

Honestly I'm lost.

[ghug]

TBH I thought I had already voted.

##Vote Bona

Who do you think his partner is?

Unsure.

Honestly I'm lost.

Why aren't you voting Bob with me? You've scumread him pretty consistently over several days.

[Chaqa]

Who do you think his partner is?

Unsure.

Honestly I'm lost.

Why aren't you voting Bob with me? You've scumread him pretty consistently over several days.

Maybe it’s conceited, but I feel like scum would be setting up to push me out for a miskill, rathe than pushing against the grain like he is.

[ghug]

Unsure.

Honestly I'm lost.

Why aren't you voting Bob with me? You've scumread him pretty consistently over several days.

Maybe it’s conceited, but I feel like scum would be setting up to push me out for a miskill, rathe than pushing against the grain like he is.

I'm not sure a ghug wagon really counts as going against the grain, but even if we assume it is, why would scum want to get their hands dirty miskilling you when you seem likely to die anyway?

[Chaqa]

Why aren't you voting Bob with me? You've scumread him pretty consistently over several days.

Maybe it’s conceited, but I feel like scum would be setting up to push me out for a miskill, rathe than pushing against the grain like he is.

I'm not sure a ghug wagon really counts as going against the grain, but even if we assume it is, why would scum want to get their hands dirty miskilling you when you seem likely to die anyway?

So you think Kak, Bona, and Maniac are all town?

[Chaqa]

Why are we giving Kaka a pass for his weird moving vote? Hmm

I re-read how Day 1 played out. Maniac can't be scum here, can he?

Also... Jamie's vote from Lfischl to worcej is so bad looking. Goddamn. I'm surprised no one has come after me for that.

[ghug]

Why are we giving Kaka a pass for his weird moving vote? Hmm

I re-read how Day 1 played out. Maniac can't be scum here, can he?

Also... Jamie's vote from Lfischl to worcej is so bad looking. Goddamn. I'm surprised no one has come after me for that.

I mean I did but then I kinda liked your play day 2.

I don't think Kak makes a wagon on his teammate happen and then jumps off like that. Maniac is entirely capable of bussing, and I don't townread him.

[ghug]

Maybe it’s conceited, but I feel like scum would be setting up to push me out for a miskill, rathe than pushing against the grain like he is.

I'm not sure a ghug wagon really counts as going against the grain, but even if we assume it is, why would scum want to get their hands dirty miskilling you when you seem likely to die anyway?

So you think Kak, Bona, and Maniac are all town?

I doubt there are two scum in that group, at least.

[Maniac]

Bonatogether:
Says they didn’t read the set up but knew there was a Godfather so calls BS on Ghug’s townslip. (Which I agree with). But then isn’t voting for him on this critical day, preferring to vote chaqa because he hated a rather benign post. I’ve already mentioned Bona’s voting style, he posts little and often and perhaps it masks that he doesn’t have developing reads on people.
I think I’d be happy voting for Bona. But if bona ends up voting ghug I’d reconsider that.

Ghug:
Ghug thinks Bona is being fake.
This seems odd “I have the luxury of knowing that the Vecna kill was not cop hunting, as I was his only consistent townread and I'm town.” We know ghug was a scum read of vecna’s.
Ghug has been scumreading me, but never votes for me.
Ghug sets out good reasons for no-kill D3.
I really dislike ghug’s post where he says his heart wants to scumread chaqa but also “this game is destined to end in miskills of me and Chaqa” He seems way too sure that Chaqa is town.
Ghug is currently voting Bob. That could be scum!ghug trying to save chaqa or town!ghug just voting his top scum read.
I’d be happy voting off ghug today.

Chaqa:
I said a lot about Chaqa/Jamie.
I’m still happy voting for him. Today has given me some pause. I think in the final analysis if Kaka and rdriveria agreed on ghug or Bona, I’d join them. But whilst their vote is split and one is on Chaqa, I’m happy to stay here.

My g/f wants to go visiting friends so will have to pick up other reads later. I can’t see Kaka or RDriveria being flashed today so I’ll look closely at Bob when I’m back.

[ghug]

If Chaqa's scum, his teammate would almost certainly be bussing him, right? Like, he's almost certainly going to die here. Maybe they'd want to flip me before him because flipping me becomes harder after he flips scum?

[ghug]

This seems odd “I have the luxury of knowing that the Vecna kill was not cop hunting, as I was his only consistent townread and I'm town.” We know ghug was a scum read of vecna’s..

This has been explained. I meant to say "scumread".

Are you reading the thread or just lazily picking things out if isos that fit your agenda?

[ghug]

##VOTE Bona

[rdrivera2005]

Why are we giving Kaka a pass for his weird moving vote? Hmm

I re-read how Day 1 played out. Maniac can't be scum here, can he?

Also... Jamie's vote from Lfischl to worcej is so bad looking. Goddamn. I'm surprised no one has come after me for that.

I was scumreading Jamiet over his D1 behavior. And it isn't for nothing you are the leading wagon.

Kak isn't getting a free pass. He is on most suspect lists, just not at the top. Anyway, I saw more townie moments on him then on Bona if we are moving away from you or Ghug.

I feel Maniac much the same as the game he was town with me till the bitter end.

[Chaqa]

Why are we giving Kaka a pass for his weird moving vote? Hmm

I re-read how Day 1 played out. Maniac can't be scum here, can he?

Also... Jamie's vote from Lfischl to worcej is so bad looking. Goddamn. I'm surprised no one has come after me for that.

I was scumreading Jamiet over his D1 behavior. And it isn't for nothing you are the leading wagon.

Kak isn't getting a free pass. He is on most suspect lists, just not at the top. Anyway, I saw more townie moments on him then on Bona if we are moving away from you or Ghug.

I feel Maniac much the same as the game he was town with me till the bitter end.

No one has given Jamie's Day 1 behavior (specifically voting) as a reason for their reads on me. In fact, most people were townreading Jamie for his behavior UNTIL i was subbed in.

I kinda agree with you on Maniac.

Right now I'm thinking it's ghug/Bona.

[rdrivera2005]

Why are we giving Kaka a pass for his weird moving vote? Hmm

I re-read how Day 1 played out. Maniac can't be scum here, can he?

Also... Jamie's vote from Lfischl to worcej is so bad looking. Goddamn. I'm surprised no one has come after me for that.

I was scumreading Jamiet over his D1 behavior. And it isn't for nothing you are the leading wagon.

Kak isn't getting a free pass. He is on most suspect lists, just not at the top. Anyway, I saw more townie moments on him then on Bona if we are moving away from you or Ghug.

I feel Maniac much the same as the game he was town with me till the bitter end.

No one has given Jamie's Day 1 behavior (specifically voting) as a reason for their reads on me. In fact, most people were townreading Jamie for his behavior UNTIL i was subbed in.

I kinda agree with you on Maniac.

Right now I'm thinking it's ghug/Bona.

Ghug and Worcej voted Jamiet right at start which triggered Jamiet and I was scumreading him too but didn't had chance to vote.

You got less pressure because almost everyone thought Jamiet's meltdown wasn't fake.

[rdrivera2005]

I was looking at EOD1 voting as it´s basically our only real informational EOD (D2 was all town)

Jamiet was on the lead for a long time with 4 votes and Celaph (town) had 3.
With 20 minutes Celaph (town) starts a wagon on Worcej (also town).
Jamiet then join Bob on lfishcl (scum). Don´t get much points on it because he can´t join Celaph wagon considering his reads.

Kak then changes from Celaph(town) to Worcej(town). Here I can see scum Kak trying to save scum Jamiet or scum Kak trying to avoid scum lfishcl getting traction.

Ghug moves from Jamiet to Worcej(town) which could be scum Ghug trying to save scum lfishl.

Maniac then votes on lfischl out of the blue, here I can´t see why scum Maniac would do this. I know, bussing and all, but still can´t see a reason to buss at this point.

Jamiet then jumps into Worcej ships, which is really scummy, as even Chaqa pointed.

Then Fox and Kak voted lsichl putting him on the lead and Celaph gives the definite vote.

Kak stil voted for Bob, which is weird but I think his vote on lfishl with 5 to go making him a runaway wagon is more towny then this last vote.

Me, Bona and Bob didn´t participate in this EOD, which make harder to gather info about us. But Bob voting lfischl and leaving didn´t look like bussing.

All in all, I still think Ghug and Jamiet/Chaqa are the ones who looked worst in this EOD. I think Kak erratic behavior is more town Kak then scum Kak. Why scum Kak will buss with 5 minutes to go to make his partner a sure kill and then bail at the end.

[Chaqa]

I've had a vague paranoia that ghug shot Vecna to implicate the me-Ghug pair, with the plan of miskilling me, then maybe going down with the ship for his partner, though I'm unclear who it is. This would also make sense if he's been buddying me.

I still prefer to vote Bona, I think. I'm going against my gut town reads on Bona and Ghug a bit here, but it seems like the most obvious answer.