Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Chaqa]

celaph is my buddy now

no more excessive scumreading of him

That's good.

[ghug]

Hi Vecna

[ghug]

You're not here but I'm drunk and you wake up soon.

[BobMcBob]

What reason is there to townread you?

Well, I am biased of course, but I think I am playing my usual town game. Nobody stated a case on me other then POE or gut or whatever. And I see reasons to scumread both you and Vecna.

Seeing reasons to scumread me is a pretty good reason to scummiest you.

that...
thats not how it works ghug

[BobMcBob]

That´s what you got with your tied small wagons. The absent get killed.....

I suggest then that people are here when it's time to make the decision ... or don't hear to the crazy Austrian.

Also, Worcej, I would advise you to be a bit more sparkling if youre town, because atm, you have roughly 6 hours and 16 minutes remaining untill a flash wagon puts you in the ground.

Instead you could hear to this upright member of the nether lands, who clearly knew what would happen.

There was plenty of opportunity to swap to ghug.

I dont know whether its him plus bob, or chaqa and bob, but feel free to keep ignoring me and loose.

if youre so convinced im scum, why do you refuse to push me at all other than to ghug?
id expect you to at least put something together but you havent made anything at all really

[Vecna]

Those latest bona posts were absolutely awful.

[BobMcBob]

And yee, after all those interactions today, I feel normal town ghug does not try to sneakily eliminate me last second tbe way he tried there.

He thought he had an easy opportunity to get rid of me. Not a town move at all.

are you sure youre not just paranoid?
all he did was vote one of the least towny players in the game
why is there such a huge problem with that?

[BobMcBob]

chaqas progression from sad & "youre all bad at mafia and should just misskill me again" to cheerfull after we just miskilled makes a lot more sense as scum.

This is a decent point.

+1 - pity it's too late to flash wagon him

maybe?
i didnt really think much of it, just seemed like chaqa
and he didnt get dked, which of course would mean we are good at mafia to him

[BobMcBob]

I was clearly being ironic and memey when I said that before, considering how the day went and I pushed hard to get you flipped, this reaction isn't too surprising. You need to discredit me to get me miskilled tomorrow.

i want to call this a scumteam right here

You're tunneling. This is not a "punt Chaqa" moment

it could be if we punt you though

[BobMcBob]

Those latest bona posts were absolutely awful.

really?
seems pretty standard bona to me

[Vecna]

And yee, after all those interactions today, I feel normal town ghug does not try to sneakily eliminate me last second tbe way he tried there.

He thought he had an easy opportunity to get rid of me. Not a town move at all.

are you sure youre not just paranoid?
all he did was vote one of the least towny players in the game
why is there such a huge problem with that?

Because during all our interactions today, it was quite blatant he did not feel I was scum at all. He was happy that he convinced me to start participating again. He did not voice any trouble whatsoever.

Ghug does not actually vote me as town. It never happens. As scum, he always tries to get rid of me via daykill if he can. In a sneaky manner, when he feels there is some potential support for it he will place his vote out of nowhere.

Check the last time I was daykilled as town. The game where Kgray was jailkeeper and jailed me. The entire scumteam hopped onto my wagon after Ghug used Kgrays suspicion to lastminute wagon me there too.

[Vecna]

And yee, after all those interactions today, I feel normal town ghug does not try to sneakily eliminate me last second tbe way he tried there.

He thought he had an easy opportunity to get rid of me. Not a town move at all.

are you sure youre not just paranoid?
all he did was vote one of the least towny players in the game
why is there such a huge problem with that?

Also, accusations of paranoia is what u point towards a town player.

Bit odd to do in the same post where u call me the least towny.

[Vecna]

Those latest bona posts were absolutely awful.

really?
seems pretty standard bona to me

So what youre saying is that in your experience, Bona always has opinions that disagree with most of the game, and that tunnel hard on a single player and then suddenly reverse that opinion?

[BobMcBob]

Those latest bona posts were absolutely awful.

really?
seems pretty standard bona to me

So what youre saying is that in your experience, Bona always has opinions that disagree with most of the game, and that tunnel hard on a single player and then suddenly reverse that opinion?

disagree with most of the game? absolutely
tunnel hard? not quite so sure
suddenly reverse opinions? seems very bona
were you around for voting lessons with bona? nobody agrees with him

[Vecna]

Do you think youre as easy to townread this game as you were last game?

If you were GF, how would you approach lfischl as a teammate?

[BobMcBob]

And yee, after all those interactions today, I feel normal town ghug does not try to sneakily eliminate me last second tbe way he tried there.

He thought he had an easy opportunity to get rid of me. Not a town move at all.

are you sure youre not just paranoid?
all he did was vote one of the least towny players in the game
why is there such a huge problem with that?

Because during all our interactions today, it was quite blatant he did not feel I was scum at all. He was happy that he convinced me to start participating again. He did not voice any trouble whatsoever.

Ghug does not actually vote me as town. It never happens. As scum, he always tries to get rid of me via daykill if he can. In a sneaky manner, when he feels there is some potential support for it he will place his vote out of nowhere.

Check the last time I was daykilled as town. The game where Kgray was jailkeeper and jailed me. The entire scumteam hopped onto my wagon after Ghug used Kgrays suspicion to lastminute wagon me there too.

i don't know at what point ghug was convinced you were town, but i dont think it was yesterday
all i could see was ghug putting you in scumteams and poe, voting you twice and scumreading you on multiple occasions
which game of mafia are you looking at?
this seems like a very pointed misrepresentation with various meta things to add to your case thrown in too

[BobMcBob]

Do you think youre as easy to townread this game as you were last game?

If you were GF, how would you approach lfischl as a teammate?

well nobodys called me obvtown once, and its been a lot harder to flow freely in this game
i think at least partially the game thread has been too stale for that

as godfather id probably approach lfischl exactly the same way i would as a goon
im not entirely sure what that would be
i tend to just go to sleep on whoever i think looks scummiest regardless of my alignment

[Vecna]

are you sure youre not just paranoid?
all he did was vote one of the least towny players in the game
why is there such a huge problem with that?

Because during all our interactions today, it was quite blatant he did not feel I was scum at all. He was happy that he convinced me to start participating again. He did not voice any trouble whatsoever.

Ghug does not actually vote me as town. It never happens. As scum, he always tries to get rid of me via daykill if he can. In a sneaky manner, when he feels there is some potential support for it he will place his vote out of nowhere.

Check the last time I was daykilled as town. The game where Kgray was jailkeeper and jailed me. The entire scumteam hopped onto my wagon after Ghug used Kgrays suspicion to lastminute wagon me there too.

i don't know at what point ghug was convinced you were town, but i dont think it was yesterday
all i could see was ghug putting you in scumteams and poe, voting you twice and scumreading you on multiple occasions
which game of mafia are you looking at?
this seems like a very pointed misrepresentation with various meta things to add to your case thrown in too

He didnt mention me a single time since our interaction where he "made me participate" and his EoD vote when it looked like I wasnt going to show up.

The vote showed up when 1-2 others were mentioning me as a potential wagon.

[BobMcBob]

Because during all our interactions today, it was quite blatant he did not feel I was scum at all. He was happy that he convinced me to start participating again. He did not voice any trouble whatsoever.

Ghug does not actually vote me as town. It never happens. As scum, he always tries to get rid of me via daykill if he can. In a sneaky manner, when he feels there is some potential support for it he will place his vote out of nowhere.

Check the last time I was daykilled as town. The game where Kgray was jailkeeper and jailed me. The entire scumteam hopped onto my wagon after Ghug used Kgrays suspicion to lastminute wagon me there too.

i don't know at what point ghug was convinced you were town, but i dont think it was yesterday
all i could see was ghug putting you in scumteams and poe, voting you twice and scumreading you on multiple occasions
which game of mafia are you looking at?
this seems like a very pointed misrepresentation with various meta things to add to your case thrown in too

He didnt mention me a single time since our interaction where he "made me participate" and his EoD vote when it looked like I wasnt going to show up.

The vote showed up when 1-2 others were mentioning me as a potential wagon.

i feel like that really means very little
i felt like yesterdays kill was very likely to be either you or worcej
and i wouldnt blame anyone who scumread you for voting you over the main alternative
which is exactly what ghug did

[Vecna]

It actually wouldnt even surprise me if its simply Ghug + Chaqa.

The way the Ghug/jamiet interactions ahve been since the start have been awkward.

After the outburst, Ghug didnt realize people though the jamiet outburst was towny, untill people pointed it out. Then he didnt dare touch him anymore.

Chaqa replaced in with the statement that he's been reading along (lmao?) to justify some reads, amongst them a strong scumread on Ghug. That later mysteriously disappeared, apparently due to a dog walk or whatever the reason was.

Actually both Chaqa and Ghug have been pretty weak with their votes on me and dancing around it very scared-like, without direct confrontation on reasons and whatnot.

Fully possible this is what happened. Or its just Rdrivera.