Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Kakarroto]

I'm a bit lost. Thinking of the progress in the next days, we have only 2 misskills. So thinking from that point, we have 4 chances to catch mafia.

I would like everyone to think about that and ask you to visualise the 4 players you think are most likely mafia. You don't have to say that in the thread, you can keep that for yourself. I'm sure that some of these would change depending on who mafia is going to nk anyway.

Maybe you don't need this advice, but I'm currently big unsure about most of my reads and maybe that's just some advice for myself. But if that helps anyone, please, be my guest and use it. But I'm not feeling a good person to vote just right now and I feel like that's wasted time for town.

[worcej]

GM NOTE
Jamie was replaced by me, he did not request a sub. I subbed him out rather than modkill.

Council has advised me that this information should be known.

Well this throws a wrench in my thought progression.

[worcej]

I was of the opinion that he was excessively griefing and violating our code of conduct. He was being considered for a ban and was asked to recuse himself from playing and has been an issue since his membership on the council. my personal feeling is that Jamie is fun, and also very frustrating. He can be rude and when he devolves into profanity rants against the game it is to the detriment of the game and our community.
Lets not discuss this until post game, but suffice it to say he does not agree with my decision and filed a complaint to the council.

Any further discussion of this at this time should cease. Or be directed to dargorygel, or President Eden who are kouncilmembers not playing or GMING

He literally said it was his last post. I think you're all good brain.

I also don't think brain's actions should really change anyone's opinions at all.

It changes my thought process on the Jamie slot since he was forced out and didn't recuse himself due to ~drama~.

##vote Chaqa

[worcej]

Uh, well, I don't like this situation but alright, lets wait for after the game to talk about it. In the meanwhile I (try to) deduct the few towny notches jamie gained for what I thought was subbing out. Well, he looked ok-ish before anyway so that's that.

However I don't like this Chaqa-bona absolute town reading each other. I mean, alright, I remember something of these two being quite fast to read each other, or at least Chaqa for Bona, for what I remember, but this development right now gives me kinda the creeps. Maybe I'm wrong, but that development doesn't feel natural.

Thanks in the meantime for answering my questions for those who did and for those who didn't, please answer them, the one with the 9 options concerning my thoughts for fox's nk.

Agree on the Bona and Chaqa reads of each other. It needs more context for me to take it more seriously.

I think Bona is the 3rd scum FWIW. He is tunneling celaph rather hard for little (objectively) good reason.

[Vecna]

Kinda want to take a page out of Jamie's book and self-vote as a meme.

Ya'll are bad at mafia. Jamie was town.

so just play a town-chaqa game instead of moping about buddy.

[Bonatogether]

##vote Chaqa

I’m sure the Ghug wagon is scum driven right now and Chamie is our best kill.

@worceJ - I don’t necessarily agree with your assessment that Ghug and Chamie are on opposite sides, but if you believe that would you be willing to flip Chamie instead of Ghug?

@Bona - do you have any case against Ghug? What do you think of flipping Chamie instead?

@rdr - I don’t think you’re scum, but iirc you haven’t presented a good case for voting Ghug

I have no case against ghug.

I townread chaka.

Why?

why what?

[Bonatogether]

Uh, well, I don't like this situation but alright, lets wait for after the game to talk about it. In the meanwhile I (try to) deduct the few towny notches jamie gained for what I thought was subbing out. Well, he looked ok-ish before anyway so that's that.

However I don't like this Chaqa-bona absolute town reading each other. I mean, alright, I remember something of these two being quite fast to read each other, or at least Chaqa for Bona, for what I remember, but this development right now gives me kinda the creeps. Maybe I'm wrong, but that development doesn't feel natural.

Thanks in the meantime for answering my questions for those who did and for those who didn't, please answer them, the one with the 9 options concerning my thoughts for fox's nk.

Chaqa has always been fast to read me, and I'm usually slower.

We're both usually right.

[Bonatogether]

Uh, well, I don't like this situation but alright, lets wait for after the game to talk about it. In the meanwhile I (try to) deduct the few towny notches jamie gained for what I thought was subbing out. Well, he looked ok-ish before anyway so that's that.

However I don't like this Chaqa-bona absolute town reading each other. I mean, alright, I remember something of these two being quite fast to read each other, or at least Chaqa for Bona, for what I remember, but this development right now gives me kinda the creeps. Maybe I'm wrong, but that development doesn't feel natural.

Thanks in the meantime for answering my questions for those who did and for those who didn't, please answer them, the one with the 9 options concerning my thoughts for fox's nk.

Agree on the Bona and Chaqa reads of each other. It needs more context for me to take it more seriously.

I think Bona is the 3rd scum FWIW. He is tunneling celaph rather hard for little (objectively) good reason.

Also, I never said I absolutely townread Chaqa?

[ghug]

I have no case against ghug.

I townread chaka.

Why?

why what?

Why do you townread Chaqa?

[BobMcBob]

GM NOTE
Jamie was replaced by me, he did not request a sub. I subbed him out rather than modkill.

Council has advised me that this information should be known.

this actually changes things quite a bit, thanks brain
jamie looks a lot worse for that now

[BobMcBob]

also, having 2 town cw's to scum is always better for scum than 1 for continuity reasons

And this is why we create chaos.

im assuming this is not meant to say what it sounds like its saying
which is "yes i created chaos because i was scum and wanted an extra cw"

[Chaqa]

Kinda want to take a page out of Jamie's book and self-vote as a meme.

Ya'll are bad at mafia. Jamie was town.

so just play a town-chaqa game instead of moping about buddy.

I am playing my town game. in a vacuum none of you would be voting me. Not my fault Jamie left me a dumpster fire.

[worcej]

I'm a bit lost. Thinking of the progress in the next days, we have only 2 misskills. So thinking from that point, we have 4 chances to catch mafia.

I would like everyone to think about that and ask you to visualise the 4 players you think are most likely mafia. You don't have to say that in the thread, you can keep that for yourself. I'm sure that some of these would change depending on who mafia is going to nk anyway.

Maybe you don't need this advice, but I'm currently big unsure about most of my reads and maybe that's just some advice for myself. But if that helps anyone, please, be my guest and use it. But I'm not feeling a good person to vote just right now and I feel like that's wasted time for town.

I'll share because I want to: ghug, Chaqa, rdr, Bona.

[worcej]

Uh, well, I don't like this situation but alright, lets wait for after the game to talk about it. In the meanwhile I (try to) deduct the few towny notches jamie gained for what I thought was subbing out. Well, he looked ok-ish before anyway so that's that.

However I don't like this Chaqa-bona absolute town reading each other. I mean, alright, I remember something of these two being quite fast to read each other, or at least Chaqa for Bona, for what I remember, but this development right now gives me kinda the creeps. Maybe I'm wrong, but that development doesn't feel natural.

Thanks in the meantime for answering my questions for those who did and for those who didn't, please answer them, the one with the 9 options concerning my thoughts for fox's nk.

Agree on the Bona and Chaqa reads of each other. It needs more context for me to take it more seriously.

I think Bona is the 3rd scum FWIW. He is tunneling celaph rather hard for little (objectively) good reason.

Also, I never said I absolutely townread Chaqa?

Um.....

I have no case against ghug.

I townread chaka.

Maybe we're splitting hairs - but you said you townread him.

[Kakarroto]

I'm a bit lost. Thinking of the progress in the next days, we have only 2 misskills. So thinking from that point, we have 4 chances to catch mafia.

I would like everyone to think about that and ask you to visualise the 4 players you think are most likely mafia. You don't have to say that in the thread, you can keep that for yourself. I'm sure that some of these would change depending on who mafia is going to nk anyway.

Maybe you don't need this advice, but I'm currently big unsure about most of my reads and maybe that's just some advice for myself. But if that helps anyone, please, be my guest and use it. But I'm not feeling a good person to vote just right now and I feel like that's wasted time for town.

I'll share because I want to: ghug, Chaqa, rdr, Bona.

hmm, interesting, mine seem to be quite different. After some thought, I think most likely we find mafia in the group of Bona, Bob, celaph and Vecna. Rd feels too towny for me to be maf, maniac was a bit strange but his voting shows me lots of good things, ghug and jamie/chaqa felt too t vs t.

From my four, I currently feel like Vecna is doing the least and tries to stay out of sight. I'll go to sleep and maybe have another view afterwards but currently ##vote Vecna for making me feel he is mafia.

[ghug]

also, having 2 town cw's to scum is always better for scum than 1 for continuity reasons

And this is why we create chaos.

im assuming this is not meant to say what it sounds like its saying
which is "yes i created chaos because i was scum and wanted an extra cw"

Oh, I missed the "for scum" part.

I think interesting EoDs are better for town because they can cause scum to panic and/or gamble in ways that expose them.

[ghug]

Kinda want to take a page out of Jamie's book and self-vote as a meme.

Ya'll are bad at mafia. Jamie was town.

so just play a town-chaqa game instead of moping about buddy.

I am playing my town game. in a vacuum none of you would be voting me. Not my fault Jamie left me a dumpster fire.

I mean I'd probably vote for you anyway.

[Vecna]

Just because im busier doesnt mean im trying to stay out of sight.

Im actually surprised you somehow feel that Rdrivera has been playing extremely towny, and feel there is more there to townread.

[worcej]

Kinda want to take a page out of Jamie's book and self-vote as a meme.

Ya'll are bad at mafia. Jamie was town.

so just play a town-chaqa game instead of moping about buddy.

I am playing my town game. in a vacuum none of you would be voting me. Not my fault Jamie left me a dumpster fire.

TBF, this is usually the case for any sub...

[BobMcBob]

This wall feels like a pretty big effort to defend a scum teammate. Makes it feel less likely that Celaph was lfischl’s teammate.

first part: excited bona got killed last game for this same reason and was town

second part: Isn't 'effort to defend a scum teammate' and 'less likely that celaph was lfischl's teammate' mutually exclusive? i'm confused

i think vecna was saying it was so large of an effort that it is unlikely a scum would do that for their teammate
which is kinda reasonable