MAFIA XXXVII: THE WHEEL OF WEB-TIME

[flash2015]

Let's make sure of this, as I still believe Jamie is not town:

##VOTE Jamiet

[worcej]

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I also still find the focus on me as scum after my hard claim and reveal to be scummy tactics as well.

[peterlund]

Peter, what is the point of admitting to being doctor?

I wanted to make sure Teacher died D2. To make that happen after he claimed "town PR" 6 minutes before deadline, I had to out as Doc 2. I was sure he was scum and I had to get him lynched, instead of me.

Was that not obvious to you? Why was it not? Are you going to give me the answer "I am newbie and do not understand much" now?

[flash2015]

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[peterlund]

I agree with Vecna: Both scum and SK fears the tracker the most. But how do we explain that only one person died N2? As I already have told you, I have not gotten any save report from N2, nor did I get a save report from N1.

My ideas listed in probability order for why I think that only one player (Yav) died N2:
1 - Both SK and scum went after Yav because they thought, that Yav was the tracker. Is there anything Yav has said that makes them believe so?
2 - Mafia RBed the SK on N2 while killing Yav. If so the SK may die N3. Funny enough Brain said on p90 that he thinks damo is SK. Seems indeed to be a very funny coincidence!
3 - JOAT could have saved someone. If JOAT has spent all his 3 night actions after N3, then JOAT is just a VT and could/should reveal any good information he has about the results of his actions: tracking, kill and save.
4 - NK or SK not killing. But I find it unlikely that either would withhold their kill.

I agree with Brain. Tracker should not claim unless he has something really good to tell us, like X visited Y on night Z and Y died. Maybe tracker should even wait for more results? I dunno. What do others say? But this decision is obviously the trackers own to make in the end.

Teacher said that the Jamie - Brain fight probably was VT vs VT, in response to me suspecting it could be scum vs scum. Looking back at it now, when Jamie has made a fool of himself and Brain is looking worse and worse also claiming RBed 2 days in a row (withheld RBs from Brain himself possibly), maybe I was not completely wrong anyhow. Let's get Jamie (or Brain) now and we'll find out.

[flash2015]

Peter, what is the point of admitting to being doctor?

I wanted to make sure Teacher died D2. To make that happen after he claimed "town PR" 6 minutes before deadline, I had to out as Doc 2. I was sure he was scum and I had to get him lynched, instead of me.

Was that not obvious to you? Why was it not? Are you going to give me the answer "I am newbie and do not understand much" now?

Hey! That's my excuse!

[Jamiet99uk]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... =Foxcastle


Heres Jamies top townread
A 5 poster today, convieniently voting with him

You claim I don't town read anyone.
Then you describe someone as my top town read.
How is this possible please?

Everyone look at what Brainbomb is doing.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Everyone who is voting me:

When I flip town, how will this change the way you are looking at the game?
Assuming I flip town, which I know I will, who will you vote for tomorrow?

All of you please do me the final favour of answering this, as sincerely as you are able, before I die.

Clearly my death is now inevitable but please help town by answering these final questions. Thank you in advance.

[DoubtingThomas]

@Everyone who is voting me:

When I flip town, how will this change the way you are looking at the game?
Assuming I flip town, which I know I will, who will you vote for tomorrow?

All of you please do me the final favour of answering this, as sincerely as you are able, before I die.

Clearly my death is now inevitable but please help town by answering these final questions. Thank you in advance.

i will vote brain

see ya jamie

[damo666]

If Jamie flips town Brain is in trouble.

[damo666]

and I posted that BEFORE I saw your post Jamie

[damo666]

Brains very late vote switch from Teacher to Jamie will look highly suspicious.

[peterlund]

I forgot one obvious reason for why only 1 person died N2 and that is maybe even the most likely.

0 - Scum tried to NK the SK and that will fail according to the setup info, ND put up first on page 1.

My ideas listed in probability order for why I think that only one player (Yav) died N2:
1 - Both SK and scum went after Yav because they thought, that Yav was the tracker. Is there anything Yav has said that makes them believe so?
2 - Mafia RBed the SK on N2 while killing Yav. If so the SK may die N3. Funny enough Brain said on p90 that he thinks damo is SK. Seems indeed to be a very funny coincidence!
3 - JOAT could have saved someone. If JOAT has spent all his 3 night actions after N3, then JOAT is just a VT and could/should reveal any good information he has about the results of his actions: tracking, kill and save.
4 - NK or SK not killing. But I find it unlikely that either would withhold their kill.

[Foxcastle]

I also still find the focus on me as scum after my hard claim and reveal to be scummy tactics as well.

Counter theory... you're scum and you cooked this up to look townie knowing you'd never be the target of your own team's kill.

Counter theory... you're SK and you cooked this up to look townie knowing that it wouldn't matter if the scum team tried to kill you, since you're immune.

Why aren't these possibilities?

[Jamiet99uk]

Worcej, it's not possible to usefully "hardclaim" Vanilla Town.

Also, I counter-claim you.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Peterlund, Foxcastle, everyone, would you be kind enough to answer my dying question?

[Foxcastle]

I'm not voting for you, Jamiet, so I didn't think my answer was being solicited. But if you flip town, I think the case against Brainbomb is even stronger for all he's tried to get you lynched.

But I agree that it would be interesting to see some brief speculation from those voting for you what your town flip would mean...

[Jamiet99uk]

I have demonstrated on multiple occasions that Brainbomb is pushing out right lies to get me lynched. Why does this not bother anyone?

[peterlund]

@Peterlund, Foxcastle, everyone, would you be kind enough to answer my dying question?

You have my read list from EoN2 with a lynch order. I will be re-evaluating that one more thoroughly in case I am wrong about you. Obviously I will be re-evaluating it in any case, if I am still alive D4.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Peterlund, Foxcastle, everyone, would you be kind enough to answer my dying question?

You have my read list from EoN2 with a lynch order. I will be re-evaluating that one more thoroughly in case I am wrong about you. Obviously I will be re-evaluating it in any case, if I am still alive D4.

You are wrong about me.

You are lynching me over the person who is CC-ing your Doctor claim. You KNOW Brainbomb is a liar. He is even calling YOU a liar, and yet you are lynching me with him. Do you like being called a liar, Peter?