Mini Mafia 1018 - Race with the Devil [hidden]

[Bonatogether]

Why do you think this? Day one scum kills almost always involve a big bus.

people say this and it's dumb

d1 scumbussing is -ev (unless scumteam really just hates lfischl)

What is -ev?

losing expected value.

[Bonatogether]

You shouldn't be scum reading me for my late vote. Anyone who can read can see I didn't believe in it. If you want to scum read me for something, scum

i don't care

voting is voting

if you were the tiebreaker, think of that towncred you'd get

ergo, that was a scummy vote (or at least not-town)

This keeps eating at me. What are you trying to say here? Saying it's a scummy vote because breaking the tie in lfischl's favor would appear townie is tautological, because a town celaph wouldn't know that to be the case. Celaph's point is that his vote wasn't ever going to get him any towncred, and thus should be NAI, not that his vote is townie.

On assumption celaph is town, he doesn't deserve anything for his vote. This is unverifiable immediately, so we must keep it in mind but not use it too much.

However, breaking the tie in this situation often will get the breaker towncred. Scum!celaph most likely knows this and therefore, we must consider scum!celaph voting scum!lfischl as for towncredit. If this were to be the case, then celaph would have fooled us. This is bad, and deserves caution. Therefore, this vote must be considered not-town.

Taking these two together (nothing, and not-town), on balance that was a not-town vote, which, given usual patterns of celaph's behavior, is scummy.

[BobMcBob]

You seem to be tryharding and your unexplained vote on me was annoying.

Rdrivera seems to be lurking hard so I'm also leaning scum on him.

Kak's entrance felt very reminiscent of his entrance last time when he was scum, so, maybe?

Why do you think I am lurking hard? And why you think it's scum indicative for me?

You seems to be trying too hard to get reasons to scum read people.

##vote Jamiet

Lurking is anti-town and anti-town things are scum-indicative.

Your vote on me is pure OMGUS. I mentioned you in a single sentence and this means I'm "trying too hard" ? Oh really?

you know as well as anyone else here that this is normal for rdr
why scumread him for it this time?

[BobMcBob]

(Rdr... you are the second-lowest poster, so... yeah, you might be lurking...!)

im the highest poster

Yeah appealing for brownie points in this way is not a good strategy though.

i really doubt that was the goal there...

[Jamiet99uk]

Why do you think I am lurking hard? And why you think it's scum indicative for me?

You seems to be trying too hard to get reasons to scum read people.

##vote Jamiet

Lurking is anti-town and anti-town things are scum-indicative.

Your vote on me is pure OMGUS. I mentioned you in a single sentence and this means I'm "trying too hard" ? Oh really?

you know as well as anyone else here that this is normal for rdr
why scumread him for it this time?

Just a D1 lean. Information is limited on D1.

What do you make of EoD, Bob?

What do you think of Kak's accusation that you were bussing?

[Jamiet99uk]

im the highest poster

Yeah appealing for brownie points in this way is not a good strategy though.

i really doubt that was the goal there...

You seem convinced that Bona is town.

Interesting.

[BobMcBob]

I didn't deflect. I gave you a direct answer.

Sure, Jan.

My point is, I would normally expect you to have provided the town/scum information on that kind of data, and you didn't, and I think that's interesting and I would like everyone else to know about it in case it indicates scummy malfeasance on your part.

Please explain how my failure to analyse a particular data point when responding to a question that was not directly about that data point would prove that I am scum?

Fascinating work here, really.

because that information would have made the data actually have meaningful application?
dont worry jamie, i dont expect you to do extra work in order to make your contributions useful

[BobMcBob]

Lurking is anti-town and anti-town things are scum-indicative.

Your vote on me is pure OMGUS. I mentioned you in a single sentence and this means I'm "trying too hard" ? Oh really?

you know as well as anyone else here that this is normal for rdr
why scumread him for it this time?

Just a D1 lean. Information is limited on D1.

What do you make of EoD, Bob?

What do you think of Kak's accusation that you were bussing?

ill get to that
normally id skim the bot for an overview but its not working for me right now

[BobMcBob]

also this foxcastle seems quite a bit like the fox i remember
very strange overly analytical approach but exactly what i expect

[worcej]

Super glad you guys weren’t incredibly silly and flash wagoned me and instead got a goon

[worcej]

Ghug and Jamie super scum.

[BobMcBob]

You basically denied it! You asked me "where did he say that made you scum?" or words to that effect.

Now you are twisting things around.

I'm not wasting a day arguing semantics and contrived misunderstandings with you again. If you actually don't understand what I meant, oh well.

##VOTE Jamie

This is ridiculous.

that was warranted
i was getting last game antics vibes again

[BobMcBob]

It's probably worcej, celaph, and Vecna, actually.

##VOTE WORCEJ for lurking.

interesting?
why this?

[worcej]

Because Fox is a worcej-ist

[BobMcBob]

Sorry, that phrasing is a little brusque. I should have just said, I am not asserting a connection between Worcej and Vecna.

Okay thanks for clarifying. Just the way you suddenly seemed quite sure about all three made me think you might have a reason to connect them. No worries.

As I posted elsewhere, I have a theory that the best way to find scum is it to look in my weak town reads.

really weird theory
especially if thats all of what youre basing it on

[BobMcBob]

What about those posts bothers you, Bona?

it's un-celaph to make those comments

is it?
i dont really remember that being the case
although he dies feel slightly less invested than last game maybe

[Bonatogether]

im the highest poster

Yeah appealing for brownie points in this way is not a good strategy though.

i really doubt that was the goal there...

bobbo gets me

[BobMcBob]

so tossing up voting between lfischl and worcej
they both kinda suck
both talked about ghug/jamie and not much else
but i feel like lfischl was more awkward about it so ##vote lfischl
although i did like his reply to bona

Do you feel like lfischl is playing differently than normal? I certainly wouldn't describe his play as impressive, but it felt very lfischl-y to me.

it felt mostly normal but there werent really any better targets

[Bonatogether]

Super glad you guys weren’t incredibly silly and flash wagoned me and instead got a goon

hate this post

[Bonatogether]

so tossing up voting between lfischl and worcej
they both kinda suck
both talked about ghug/jamie and not much else
but i feel like lfischl was more awkward about it so ##vote lfischl
although i did like his reply to bona

Do you feel like lfischl is playing differently than normal? I certainly wouldn't describe his play as impressive, but it felt very lfischl-y to me.

it felt mostly normal but there werent really any better targets

lfischl is unreadable, this was a meme