M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

What are they? I'm way behind my dude, I need you to spell things out for me please.

My 3 top mafia suspects are possibilities, as are you. Vecna is still possible, although he claims to have given away a 3P item, that has not been confirmed.

See, if you were town I wouldve expected you to quite clearly see the soft confirm.

Why would you not expect me to see it as mafia? I have seen the confirmation now, although snowy pointed out you could have the complementary item. However, I think HB is the 3P.

[damo666]

Test B

[damo666]

Test A

[damo666]

Ignore those posts.

[Vecna]

IMPORTANT message for rice holders.

We don't want the effects to cancel each other out so I suggest the following plan:

White rice - save me please
Brown rice - save Snowy

Thanks

Im so gonna get a bullet aint I? :D

Or poor bob.

Isnt it better to 50/50 it to white damo/bob
brown Snowy/Vecna?

Whether "the ricers" agree with them is up to them ofcourse. Im just throwing this out there to not give the mafia a free kill.

[bozotheclown]

what?

How would you explain the lack of a NK D2? Do you still think the mafia sent the GF out to do the NK and you RB him?

Perhaps they targeted the 3p who is not HamB

Maybe, but the mafia do not want the 3P to win and they can't NK them, so if they know who it is, why not tell us?

[Jamiet99uk]

Ignore those posts.

What was all that about?

[Jamiet99uk]

How would you explain the lack of a NK D2? Do you still think the mafia sent the GF out to do the NK and you RB him?

Perhaps they targeted the 3p who is not HamB

Maybe, but the mafia do not want the 3P to win and they can't NK them, so if they know who it is, why not tell us?

I hate to agree with Bozo but I agree with Bozo on this. I think it's more than likely Tom was not lying.

[Vecna]

I have decided it is safe to reveal the following info.

The item I got for being on kaks wagon was the chips.

I gave these to Jamie. I'm not sure that was the wisest decision but done now.

That is quite useful information in solving the puzzle

[bozotheclown]

I just don't know why Hamilton's name got brought up. Not sure why we're trusting scum!Tom but more importantly, I'm not sure why he targeted Hamilton as the 3P. Was that his "read"?

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... 20Bombadil

I don’t want to reveal why HB was targeted. If I wanted to setup a town kill by faking catching third party, I would have picked someone who was on a killing wagon. I don’t know why HB wasn’t on either wagon to get an item. You can ask him.

HB was targeted for reasons non third party related

Some of Tom's last words.

Again, there is no reason to trust Tom's words. It is merely information we have, which we can use or not, depending on our inclination. It is good that you are skeptical, as I personally believe that Hamilton Brian is Tom's teammate, who Tom is attempting to 2nd level conceal.

I dont think TomB would go for a play like that.

I think he either just wants to get an easy misskill for his team, genuinely believes the 3P stuff, or is trying to cover up some other truth.

I do not believe HB to be mafia.

I think Tom's claim was to believable to be an attempt to town clear HB as mafia.

[damo666]

IMPORTANT message for rice holders.

We don't want the effects to cancel each other out so I suggest the following plan:

White rice - save me please
Brown rice - save Snowy

Thanks

Im so gonna get a bullet aint I? :D

Or poor bob.

Isnt it better to 50/50 it to white damo/bob
brown Snowy/Vecna?

Whether "the ricers" agree with them is up to them ofcourse. Im just throwing this out there to not give the mafia a free kill.

This has been updated

[Vecna]

I have decided it is safe to reveal the following info.

The item I got for being on kaks wagon was the chips.

I gave these to Jamie. I'm not sure that was the wisest decision but done now.

Then how did Bob get chips?

Kak must have served him N1 I guess. Question is why serve a non teammate?
I feel i now have to disclose my info on Bob. I know he is vegan which is and item that can't start with Mafia so Bob cannot be kak's teammate unless somebody gave Bob Sofritas in which case they should say immediately.

Maybe kak served Bob chips to either frame Bob or to get towncred later on in the game once it was revealed.

Either that, or Kak stole the item from Celaph or Ghug (or received it from a teammate that did so).

[damo666]

How would you explain the lack of a NK D2? Do you still think the mafia sent the GF out to do the NK and you RB him?

Perhaps they targeted the 3p who is not HamB

Maybe, but the mafia do not want the 3P to win and they can't NK them, so if they know who it is, why not tell us?

Maybe they plan to after a HamB mk if they have to

[bozotheclown]

i see damo already revealed my item
yes i am the vegan
i revealed myself to kak n1 (not my best moment), snowy n2 and also replenished it, and damo n3 (obviously)
i also received the pinto beans from vecna because im just that cool

snowy revealed it first with his D4 chart, by leaving you and the neighbor item off the unclaimed list. It was not obvious though, and I initially missed it and asked snowy a question about the neighbor item before I realized what he was revealing.

[Maniac]

Wait a minute, Maniac is fucking 3P!

I'd answer this but I don't know what it means. Is there a word missing

is it supposed to be...

(a) Wait a minute, Maniac is THE fucking 3P!
(b) Wait a minute, Maniac is fucking THE 3P!
(c) Wait a minute, Maniac is fucking WITH THE 3P!
(d) Wait a minute, Maniac is fucking handsome!

Three of the above are incorrect.

Seriously though, why do you suspect me of being the 3P?

[damo666]

Ignore those posts.

What was all that about?

checking stuff for EOD

Don't worry.

[Vecna]

IMPORTANT message for rice holders.

We don't want the effects to cancel each other out so I suggest the following plan:

White rice - save me please
Brown rice - save Snowy

Thanks

I don't know, I think this just gives mafia a free kill. Would it not be better to say something like, white rice save someone in A-J (incl damo) and brown rice save someone in K-Z?

[Vecna]

I don't think scum will send GF to do the killing, it's utterly stupid. Hence, Tom's claim is believable. Also, HB didn't obvtowned as he usually does.

Good thinking. However, still don't think he should be 2m's kill as even if he is 3p he is nowhere near his wincon (unless he is lying about corn salsa, stole cheese, shot a 3p item ghug and somebody gifted him a 3p item - only 1 of these is likely imo so he is not of immediate concern, he can be killed day 6 if 3p not dk'd D5. I think if we kill in the Jamie Bozo Maniac Food pool we have a more than 50% chance of a scumkill.

I believe 3-P shot Ghug to take his item and he also stole Cheese from Brain, so at least this two itens where in 3-P hands. I also believe Black Beans is on 3-P hands as no one claimed it and at this point there is no reason for a town to not claim it and pass away. Also, Napkins could be on 3-P hands, so we might need to catch 3-P sooner then D6.

What makes you say 3P over mafia on these 2 items? Or just one of the few townies that hasnt claimed yet though?

(regardless, prioritizing the 3P is obviously needed).

[Vecna]

I don’t know why this smells so much to me but I just don’t believe that scum!Roleblocker, Cop!RDr and Tracker!HamB turned up at Ghugs house N1.

If Vecna is to be believed he roleblocked Damo N1.

All I really remember Ghug for D1 is joking and the start of his spat with Jamie.

@Rdr @HamB why did you visit Ghug?

wut? are we playing the same game?

[Vecna]

This is also possible, but it depend on a very specific item combination of the scum team. And why Tom will claim 3P is HB in this case?

I think Tom’s 3P!HB claim is total WIFOM, so I’m not considering it too far.

I think it´s either bullshit and he wants to get a town misskilled or it´s true and HB is 3P. I just can´t see Tom claiming it on a scum partner.

Yeah, when me and Rdrivera are reaching the same conclusions in similar timeframes on nearly everything we both discuss, im not willing to suspect him unless we get somes pretty solid evidence.