M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

i see damo already revealed my item
yes i am the vegan
i revealed myself to kak n1 (not my best moment), snowy n2 and also replenished it, and damo n3 (obviously)
i also received the pinto beans from vecna because im just that cool

I assume you no longer have the pinto beans.

This townclears Vecna.

[damo666]

In publishing M69 life stories not before T-60seconds preferably in the middle of a wall of text to give scum no chance to change orders.

[snowy801]

In publishing M69 life stories not before T-60seconds preferably in the middle of a wall of text to give scum no chance to change orders.

I find my consolidated thoughts are already sufficiently a wall of text.

[damo666]

In publishing M69 life stories not before T-60seconds preferably in the middle of a wall of text to give scum no chance to change orders.

I find my consolidated thoughts are already sufficiently a wall of text.

I'm just gonna rely on posting at t-5 seconds

[Hamilton Brian]

i see damo already revealed my item
yes i am the vegan
i revealed myself to kak n1 (not my best moment), snowy n2 and also replenished it, and damo n3 (obviously)
i also received the pinto beans from vecna because im just that cool

I assume you no longer have the pinto beans.

This townclears Vecna.

Assuming they don't have black beans? Just thinking out loud.

[snowy801]

I assume you no longer have the pinto beans.

This townclears Vecna.

As the location of the black beans is not known (commute), Vecna giving away its sister item pinto beans does not clear him of 3P.

Not that I think it's him, but it's worth noting.

Someone asked earlier (you?) the path to having the most amount of 3P items in the hands of 3P is 4.

Black Beans, Pico de Gallo, and Napkins' locations are unknown, and Cheese is known to be stolen.

Hamilton Brian, bozotheclown could have 3
Vecna, foodcoats, Maniac could have 4
Jamiet could have 5, though I hear he gave chicken away

Unless I misreasoned somewhere.

I do not think the search for 3P is imminent, but should be considered tomorrow anyway.

[snowy801]

I strongly question why foodcoats leapt on Tom's kill yesterday, after repeatedly being asked to stay off and having acknowledged this.

I think this is inherently worth considering a day kill.

[BobMcBob]

i see damo already revealed my item
yes i am the vegan
i revealed myself to kak n1 (not my best moment), snowy n2 and also replenished it, and damo n3 (obviously)
i also received the pinto beans from vecna because im just that cool

I assume you no longer have the pinto beans.

This townclears Vecna.

i might still have them
youll never know
until like, tomorrow or something

[foodcoats]

I strongly question why foodcoats leapt on Tom's kill yesterday, after repeatedly being asked to stay off and having acknowledged this.

I think this is inherently worth considering a day kill.

I did it in an effort to get a hammer in time for an early night.

Although it seems Chaqa adjusted it for us to get a 23.9 hour night instead of an almost 48 hour night even though the hammering came late.

[foodcoats]

So from my perspective we have to vote within kgray, bozo and HB.

Rdr, Maniac and Jamie are marginal but I think there are more reasons to town them than the other 3.

[Hamilton Brian]

I assume you no longer have the pinto beans.

This townclears Vecna.

As the location of the black beans is not known (commute), Vecna giving away its sister item pinto beans does not clear him of 3P.

Thanks; thought I was making a faulty logic thing but glad to see someone noticed it.

Black Beans, Pico de Gallo, and Napkins' locations are unknown, and Cheese is known to be stolen.

Hamilton Brian, bozotheclown could have 3
Vecna, foodcoats, Maniac could have 4
Jamiet could have 5, though I hear he gave chicken away

Unless I misreasoned somewhere.

I do not think the search for 3P is imminent, but should be considered tomorrow anyway.

I'm not seeing how I, or Bozo, could have 3. Not on any of the daykills. Maybe assuming that ghug was killed by 3P, so there's 1. Stealing maybe? I don't know.

[Hamilton Brian]

So from my perspective we have to vote within kgray, bozo and HB.

Rdr, Maniac and Jamie are marginal but I think there are more reasons to town them than the other 3.

Funny. My grouping consists of you, bozo, jamie, kgray, maniac, macca, rivera. Maybe shift you and Jamie off due to not being on the Bona wagon, but that's just me looking at 3P and not seeing the possible bussing that could have been happening.

[foodcoats]

Regarding worceTom:

Worcej expended considerable effort scumreading bozo. He voted Maniac more on a POE approach. His vote for Jamie looks, at least in retrospect, opportunistic as he only began scumming Jamie on D2 as steam picked up there.

Worcej said very little of substance about Kak. He also defended Bona preflip. I don’t think he said much of anything about HB or lfischl/BB/kgray.

So, reasoning from the way worcej played to Kak, I’d actually prefer to vote for HB or kgray tomorrow over bozo. Worcej is certainly good enough to balance his strategy and put a bullseye on one of his teammates while ignoring the others, but without any way to be sure, and knowing there are two more scum, I think it is slightly more probable to catch a scum in kgray/HB.

[foodcoats]

So from my perspective we have to vote within kgray, bozo and HB.

Rdr, Maniac and Jamie are marginal but I think there are more reasons to town them than the other 3.

Funny. My grouping consists of you, bozo, jamie, kgray, maniac, macca, rivera. Maybe shift you and Jamie off due to not being on the Bona wagon, but that's just me looking at 3P and not seeing the possible bussing that could have been happening.

A few questions then…

What do you think of Macca giving the brown rice to Bob?
What do you think of the Jamie vs Kak wagon that makes Jamie more likely scum than town?
What do you think of Bona vs Maniac wagon that makes you think Maniac is more likely scum than town?

[damo666]

i see damo already revealed my item
yes i am the vegan
i revealed myself to kak n1 (not my best moment), snowy n2 and also replenished it, and damo n3 (obviously)
i also received the pinto beans from vecna because im just that cool

I assume you no longer have the pinto beans.

This townclears Vecna.

Assuming they don't have black beans? Just thinking out loud.

Oo that would be clever

[Jamiet99uk]

stop it brainbomb

Why is this Vecna's only contribution to this whole entire phase?

[damo666]

I assume you no longer have the pinto beans.

This townclears Vecna.

As the location of the black beans is not known (commute), Vecna giving away its sister item pinto beans does not clear him of 3P.

Thanks; thought I was making a faulty logic thing but glad to see someone noticed it.

Black Beans, Pico de Gallo, and Napkins' locations are unknown, and Cheese is known to be stolen.

Hamilton Brian, bozotheclown could have 3
Vecna, foodcoats, Maniac could have 4
Jamiet could have 5, though I hear he gave chicken away

Unless I misreasoned somewhere.

I do not think the search for 3P is imminent, but should be considered tomorrow anyway.

I'm not seeing how I, or Bozo, could have 3. Not on any of the daykills. Maybe assuming that ghug was killed by 3P, so there's 1. Stealing maybe? I don't know.

Bozo could be steak who scanned ghug N1 to discover ghug had Beans and inherited Napkins and he stole cheese. That's 4. I'm not suggesting this is what happened just an example. It's actually quite a difficult task to determine each player's maximum 3p item hold but it takes a lot of luck/coincidence for them to be close enough to victory to worry about yet. Hopefully things will clarify a bit after EON.

[damo666]

stop it brainbomb

Why is this Vecna's only contribution to this whole entire phase?

To be fair it's night and to decide to say nothing apart from an EON message is quite reasonable imo. Maybe he's been overdoing it again!

[snowy801]

Bozo could be steak who scanned ghug N1 to discover ghug had Beans and inherited Napkins and he stole cheese. That's 4. I'm not suggesting this is what happened just an example. It's actually quite a difficult task to determine each player's maximum 3p item hold but it takes a lot of luck/coincidence for them to be close enough to victory to worry about yet. Hopefully things will clarify a bit after EON.

I assume, if he inherited a 3P item from bona, he would have given it away if he already possessed another 3P item.

Then again, that is just an assumption. I'm with you, minor concerns for now (though this may snowball quickly in a turn or two)

[snowy801]

Wait a minute, Maniac is fucking 3P!