M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[foodcoats]

And snowy could still be 3P… no?

He claimed RB N3 and no one counter claimed and Brain claimed his item was stolen. Unless scum didn't RB anyone and Snowy rightfully guessed it I can't see how he can be 3P.

Ah right. Also I realized with the rice claim someone will verify that anyway. Snowy town.

[Jamiet99uk]

okay this is interesting
and we didnt even have to not hammer the day in order to get it
who wouldve guessed?
the question is, does tom lie here to attempt a miskill?
seems somewhat unlikely
also yes jamie im fully aware it wouldve been discussed, but im catching up

Christ, the 3P is sitting back laughing and thinking, "Great job scumteam and Tom in particular."

Ask yourself, why wouldn't Tom lie.

Then you please tell me why Tom lying would be unlikely.

As I said before, I am totally willing to go on the block D5. Have a couple of counters ready to go because I don't want scum or 3P to get an easy walk. Joke'll be on 3P though because I possess JACK-SHIT!

Tom wouldn't have a strong reason to lie, because his team can't win unless they get the 3P killed, and to do that they need to get town to vote for the 3P, because the 3P is immune to their NK.

[BobMcBob]

@Bob since you enjoy answering questions from previous phases could you quickly give me your reads on Kak, Tom, Bona, and Ghug?

yeah i think bona has a decent chance of being scum, tom is super likely scum, ghug is probably town and kak is cool

[Hamilton Brian]

SO if we are dealing with those clear notclears, that's leaving us with a pool of Bozo, Food, Jamie, Brainbomb, Macca, Maniac. I'd include Rivera in parentheses. The claim seems good but again as others have pointed out...could have been a predeceased town they've take over for.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bob since you enjoy answering questions from previous phases could you quickly give me your reads on Kak, Tom, Bona, and Ghug?

yeah i think bona has a decent chance of being scum, tom is super likely scum, ghug is probably town and kak is cool

I think Bob is bussing Bona here, could they be scum together?

[snowy801]

@Bob since you enjoy answering questions from previous phases could you quickly give me your reads on Kak, Tom, Bona, and Ghug?

yeah i think bona has a decent chance of being scum, tom is super likely scum, ghug is probably town and kak is cool

I think Bob is bussing Bona here, could they be scum together?

Can't be, he's scum with me!

[Hamilton Brian]

I think Bob is bussing Bona here, could they be scum together?

Do you dispute this "clear" that has been attributed to Bob?

[BobMcBob]

I think there's a distinct possibility of Tom trying to get HamB mk'd.

Personally, I think this is the conclusion we are meant to reach, and HamB is actually TomB (hey look at that)'s scum partner.

But perhaps that's a bit of a reach.

Fortunately, we have 72+ hours to think about it, with even more info!

i mean i wouldnt put this beyond the realms of possibility
it seems reasonable
and hb was a relatively unlikely nk shot

[BobMcBob]

oh yeah ill probably claim my starting item when i catch up

[TheMadMonarch]

Anyone fancy some lettuce?

I'll take it! Unless it's Kale, perhaps Bob and I can get a little space?

[snowy801]

okay this is interesting
and we didnt even have to not hammer the day in order to get it
who wouldve guessed?
the question is, does tom lie here to attempt a miskill?
seems somewhat unlikely
also yes jamie im fully aware it wouldve been discussed, but im catching up

Christ, the 3P is sitting back laughing and thinking, "Great job scumteam and Tom in particular."

Ask yourself, why wouldn't Tom lie.

Then you please tell me why Tom lying would be unlikely.

As I said before, I am totally willing to go on the block D5. Have a couple of counters ready to go because I don't want scum or 3P to get an easy walk. Joke'll be on 3P though because I possess JACK-SHIT!

Brian, I'm sorry you've been placed in this position. I'm sure it must be frustrating no matter what your alignment is.

But now that you are, you have to understand the onus is now on you to lift this burden from yourself. Imagine you've been gladiator challenged, and the outcome is not nearly as clear as it was when I was.

Here are some points to consider, when contemplating where to go from here:

1) My "absolutely nobody is this accurate" (<3 u bb) ass has been telling me from the middle of day 1 to this current moment in night 4 has been telling me that you are not playing as I would expect a town to play, and I attribute this to you not being town. If you are in fact town, you must now proceed to explain the reason for which your behavior has deviated from the norm.

2) I am not the only hurdle. A lot of people have commented that you are part of their scum pool. This has only been cemented by Tom's unfortunate accusation. You must not only explain why your behavior is not rooted in being scum/3P, but actively demonstrate your towniness. Show us that obvtown!HamB that we all know and love.

3) The easiest way to not be suspected of 3P is in fact pointing out that other mother fucker who is in fact 3P. Go destroy this asshole laughing at you silently with facts and logic. Facts and logic, my friend.

Let me know if you need a better scope of this game and understanding such that you may proceed upon these goals.

Good luck!

[damo666]

All right, since it’s obvious Im doomed I’ll just come out with it. I (well worcej) just had terrible luck with Vecna’s roleblock.

I’m getting killed because I was roleblocked and there was no N2 kill.

I was not the person carrying out the kill, so the roleblock had no impact on that, and instead just incriminated me by happenstance.

That means we either hit 3rd party - Hamilton Brian - or they are lying about their item and are bullterproof instead which seems unlikely.

##vote Hamilton Brian

okay this is interesting
and we didnt even have to not hammer the day in order to get it
who wouldve guessed?
the question is, does tom lie here to attempt a miskill?
seems somewhat unlikely
also yes jamie im fully aware it wouldve been discussed, but im catching up

This is difficult because Mafia would want us to miskill but also want 3p out of the way.

HamB has never been on a top wagon. His start item claim is not a 3p required item. So even if he is lying and is mailman say (but how would he know to risk claiming Tracker) and he successfully steals tonight he would still only have 3 required items max (unless somebody gave him an item but I very much doubt that). He probably only has one item. So, even if he is 3p (and I don't think he is) he is not yet dangerous. I don't think he should be tomorrow's dk. The kill should be one of Bozo, Food, Maniac, or Jamie.

I strongly urge cop to scan one of these four.

[BobMcBob]

@food please move off Tom wagon

Okay, but then I demand Bob and Snowy also off the wagon. Also brain.

Do a wagon of bozo, damo, Maniac, Vecna, and Jamie. I'll approve that wagon.

this looks super dumb, i dont like this post

[snowy801]

@Maniac god damn it I'm revoking your lettuce granting privileges. Give it to HamB.

[BobMcBob]

Anyone fancy some lettuce?

I'll take it! Unless it's Kale, perhaps Bob and I can get a little space?

give macca the lettuce if its kale, itll be hilarious

[Hamilton Brian]

Bob, sorry if I have missed this but this is really just me playing mental catch-up. Did your chips have any more shots or were they all used up?

[Hamilton Brian]

Simple me says that with all these claims and no counter claims, we almost have to accept them as for granted.

[TheMadMonarch]

I know people quite rightfully complain about my outbursts but has anyone noticed Snowy's consistently toxic attitude this whole game?

Yes. Constantly.

[TheMadMonarch]

okay this is interesting
and we didnt even have to not hammer the day in order to get it
who wouldve guessed?
the question is, does tom lie here to attempt a miskill?
seems somewhat unlikely
also yes jamie im fully aware it wouldve been discussed, but im catching up

Christ, the 3P is sitting back laughing and thinking, "Great job scumteam and Tom in particular."

Ask yourself, why wouldn't Tom lie.

Then you please tell me why Tom lying would be unlikely.

As I said before, I am totally willing to go on the block D5. Have a couple of counters ready to go because I don't want scum or 3P to get an easy walk. Joke'll be on 3P though because I possess JACK-SHIT!

Tom wouldn't have a strong reason to lie, because his team can't win unless they get the 3P killed, and to do that they need to get town to vote for the 3P, because the 3P is immune to their NK.

Not entirely true. If Mafia just work to eliminate all the town (with or without 3P help), it will eventually be the vs 3P, when they control the DK.

[damo666]

okay this is interesting
and we didnt even have to not hammer the day in order to get it
who wouldve guessed?
the question is, does tom lie here to attempt a miskill?
seems somewhat unlikely
also yes jamie im fully aware it wouldve been discussed, but im catching up

Christ, the 3P is sitting back laughing and thinking, "Great job scumteam and Tom in particular."

Ask yourself, why wouldn't Tom lie.

Then you please tell me why Tom lying would be unlikely.

As I said before, I am totally willing to go on the block D5. Have a couple of counters ready to go because I don't want scum or 3P to get an easy walk. Joke'll be on 3P though because I possess JACK-SHIT!

Tom wouldn't have a strong reason to lie, because his team can't win unless they get the 3P killed, and to do that they need to get town to vote for the 3P, because the 3P is immune to their NK.

This could be scum Jamie trying to ensure 3p HamB is killed.