M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

The shit is this? 3rd Party? Nope. I was never on an ending wagon like the 3P would expect to be...even with so much time to move each day.

And...no one has counterclaimed the corn salsa. AS soon as someone does to discredit me, I'd say that's one of the other 2 mafia members.

Nice try Tom. Kind of valiant in its last ditch attempt.

It could be an attempt to get a town mis-kill, but the 3P can start with the tracker.

My item was not stolen though, and I used it all up.

The tracker is not an item the 3P needs to win, but it is one they could start with, so there is no reason you could not have started with the tracker item, still have it, and still be 3P. I am just pointing out that no one counterclaiming you item does not make you any more or less likely to be the 3P.

[bozotheclown]

@Brain - Unless scum team is exactly Bob and Snowy there is 0% chance of him being scum.

Bob is absolutely not Mafia.

Is this a read or do you have additional information from an item?

[rdrivera2005]

See how lucky the dipshits get tonight, but I kind of think a massive re-think of everyone might be in order.

What that looks like, I don't know. We're taking a lot of these claims in good faith. Granted, without any counterclaims, they "seem" on the up and up. But still.

Well, Damo cleared Bob and I believe him. So, Snowy is also clear.

I can be scum if I NK Celaph and took Guac from him but then I didn't use it and gave it away to town with still one charge just for fun.

Vecna just gave us Tom, so I don't see any reason to scum read him. Still could be 3P I guess.

Hamilton, the way you are playing seems more and more he was honest about you. Alsp, I don't think Mafia will send the GF to make the kill....

[Hamilton Brian]

The tracker is not an item the 3P needs to win, but it is one they could start with, so there is no reason you could not have started with the tracker item, still have it, and still be 3P. I am just pointing out that no one counterclaiming you item does not make you any more or less likely to be the 3P.

Thanks Balloon-Busting Bozo! But I do get what you're saying.

[BobMcBob]

@Bean McComb
@Bob MacBob

I am talking to you in particular.

i had a perfectly good reason for being on there as a hammer

[BobMcBob]

yes me damo and snowy are the resident townclear association, glad everybody caught on eventually

[snowy801]

What a compliment!

I almost want to frame these comments somewhere; I haven't felt so flattered in months! I caught the first of these two comments right before my commute and I've been smiling like a loon for the past hour. Thanks for that.

absolutely no one is this accurate.
with this level of exact narratives of why

snowy actually was designated to hard bus his entire team into oblivion until his ears and eyes bleed. scum strategically used items they had to make snowy look like hes been attacked and that hes a false clear

##vote Kakarroto

Again
he picks a random person who happens to be scum. and with exactness that no human being would have without the answer sheet he pulverizes his own scum buddies and doesnt miss a moment of ever being wrong on anything. this is not a superior intellect, this is a north carolina basketball player getting a 4.0 in the early 2000s

Alas, in the buoy of my lightened heard I have come to realize that not only is my commentary obsequious and extra, it is not even effective at attaining its stated goals. And fool be it for me to continue a failed method.

So Macca, Jamiet, brainbomb, and anyone else who I may have caused displeasure through what I said, please accept my sincerest apologies.

I hope to put as many smiles on faces in the remaining time I may be granted in this game as I may have already put frowns.


That all being said, without exaggeration I think there is a light rot in the manner which this community, that does not belong to any individual, in the way we collectively approach this game both as a mechanical piece as well as a community of people, and I think it can be excised with a little bit of coming together of minds.

I will be writing an angry internet warrior essay or two after the completion of this game, and I hope you'll be interested in what I have to say.


Now, we're having a great game, all things considered. Let's play some mafia.

[BobMcBob]

Can someone explain why it is important to hammer today?

because i dont want to chat about football for 24 hours while nothing happens in mafia

[damo666]

@Brain - Unless scum team is exactly Bob and Snowy there is 0% chance of him being scum.

Bob is absolutely not Mafia.

Is this a read or do you have additional information from an item?

It is based on info not in the public domain. It is not read based.

[Hamilton Brian]

Well, Damo cleared Bob and I believe him. So, Snowy is also clear.

I can be scum if I NK Celaph and took Guac from him but then I didn't use it and gave it away to town with still one charge just for fun.

Vecna just gave us Tom, so I don't see any reason to scum read him. Still could be 3P I guess.

Yeah, fair enough. So we're looking at 4 or 5 clear clears. So that's making it 9 v 2 v 1. Leaves us with a good number of miskills right? No...2 days right? Which kind of brings me to...

Hamilton, the way you are playing seems more and more he was honest about you. Alsp, I don't think Mafia will send the GF to make the kill....

Not sure how I am giving off 3P vibes but I'll take the next daykill if it helps solve anything.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bean McComb
@Bob MacBob

I am talking to you in particular.

i had a perfectly good reason for being on there as a hammer

You're late. This has been discussed.

[snowy801]

The simpler explanation is probably that brainfish is scum.

Over my dead body is anybody voting out brainfischl.

...which may be fairly soon, so I guess you'll be free to at some point if you want.

[BobMcBob]

All right, since it’s obvious Im doomed I’ll just come out with it. I (well worcej) just had terrible luck with Vecna’s roleblock.

I’m getting killed because I was roleblocked and there was no N2 kill.

I was not the person carrying out the kill, so the roleblock had no impact on that, and instead just incriminated me by happenstance.

That means we either hit 3rd party - Hamilton Brian - or they are lying about their item and are bullterproof instead which seems unlikely.

##vote Hamilton Brian

okay this is interesting
and we didnt even have to not hammer the day in order to get it
who wouldve guessed?
the question is, does tom lie here to attempt a miskill?
seems somewhat unlikely
also yes jamie im fully aware it wouldve been discussed, but im catching up

[snowy801]

Well, Damo cleared Bob and I believe him. So, Snowy is also clear.

I can be scum if I NK Celaph and took Guac from him but then I didn't use it and gave it away to town with still one charge just for fun.

Vecna just gave us Tom, so I don't see any reason to scum read him. Still could be 3P I guess.

Yeah, fair enough. So we're looking at 4 or 5 clear clears. So that's making it 9 v 2 v 1. Leaves us with a good number of miskills right? No...2 days right? Which kind of brings me to...

Hamilton, the way you are playing seems more and more he was honest about you. Alsp, I don't think Mafia will send the GF to make the kill....

Not sure how I am giving off 3P vibes but I'll take the next daykill if it helps solve anything.

Not clear clear clears. I still have misgivings about rdrivera in particular.

But I'd put it at like 1% chance of extremely extremely unlikely "why is he alive final 3" sort of doubt.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can someone explain why it is important to hammer today?

because i dont want to chat about football for 24 hours while nothing happens in mafia

The phase ended, why are you answering old questions that no longer matter?

[BobMcBob]

Alright, I am voting for No-Kill in order to comply with the wishes of the majority, but for the avoidance of doubt, Tom is the correct kill.

this post seems a little on the nose
of course tom is the correct kill
did you really need to clarify?

[BobMcBob]

Can someone explain why it is important to hammer today?

because i dont want to chat about football for 24 hours while nothing happens in mafia

The phase ended, why are you answering old questions that no longer matter?

because im catching up?
if nothing else its funny to see you get unnecessarily worked up about literally nothing at all
well it is now at least

[Hamilton Brian]

okay this is interesting
and we didnt even have to not hammer the day in order to get it
who wouldve guessed?
the question is, does tom lie here to attempt a miskill?
seems somewhat unlikely
also yes jamie im fully aware it wouldve been discussed, but im catching up

Christ, the 3P is sitting back laughing and thinking, "Great job scumteam and Tom in particular."

Ask yourself, why wouldn't Tom lie.

Then you please tell me why Tom lying would be unlikely.

As I said before, I am totally willing to go on the block D5. Have a couple of counters ready to go because I don't want scum or 3P to get an easy walk. Joke'll be on 3P though because I possess JACK-SHIT!

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bob since you enjoy answering questions from previous phases could you quickly give me your reads on Kak, Tom, Bona, and Ghug?

[BobMcBob]

Just a mad idea, but, since Tom's scum status is confirmed now, is there any merit to killing Hamilton Brian today and then killing Tom tomorrow?

Just throwing it out there. Probably daft.

hamilton still wants to hunt scum imo
even if hes defeated

we would get no such help from tom

Why does he?

The Third Party is the opponent of both Town and Mafia.
They have no particular reason to help one faction defeat the other.

from experience third party when revealed and ruined by mafia will sometimes try to help town out of spite or revenge or something similar
scum generally doesnt do that actually