M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

also since eden is not in this game we can assume that all roleblock claims would be taken by most as being fraudulent. eden is the only one who ever suggests that faked roleblocks simply dont actually happen. So for now ill assume the roleblock claims are truth

What is this supposed to mean?

eden has been of the opinion that scum never self roleblocks and never uses roleblocks to self clear and that roleblocks should be taken as biblical guarantee of townclearing truth and honesty

[Chaqa]

Mafia 69 Day 3 Vote Count 2: The GM is Hungry Edition

Gladiator Challenge Active. Valid wagons:
No-Kill (4): Maniac, damo666, Jamiet99uk, BobMcBob
snowy801 (3): Macca573, Tom Bombadil, brainbomb
Macca573 (2): foodcoats, rdrivera2005

The following must vote: Bozotheclown, Hamilton Brian, snowy801, Vecna

A reminder that if one of the three valid options reaches a majority (7 votes) the day will be hammered.

[brainbomb]

anyone scumreading maniac will have to claw their way through my wall of brambles to even so much as touch him. he is my top town

[brainbomb]

Snowy and Jamie can be scum together as jamie always thinks scum needs to distance at random totally inconsequential time purely for sport. otherwise Jamie seems pretty alright.

[brainbomb]

OH shit so there was not NK but Ghug has been shot?

Whoah.

RIP Ghug.

trying to figure out if this is real or if Jamie is fake as hell

[brainbomb]

vecna is it real?
You usually see through the fakeness

[Jamiet99uk]

also since eden is not in this game we can assume that all roleblock claims would be taken by most as being fraudulent. eden is the only one who ever suggests that faked roleblocks simply dont actually happen. So for now ill assume the roleblock claims are truth

What is this supposed to mean?

eden has been of the opinion that scum never self roleblocks and never uses roleblocks to self clear and that roleblocks should be taken as biblical guarantee of townclearing truth and honesty

Yes but you go from saying that, to concluding that every single other player takes the opposite view to Eden.

That does not make logic.

[Jamiet99uk]

OH shit so there was not NK but Ghug has been shot?

Whoah.

RIP Ghug.

trying to figure out if this is real or if Jamie is fake as hell

Who is this "brainbomb" character? Is he knew?

I certainly have never encountered him before.

[brainbomb]

What is this supposed to mean?

eden has been of the opinion that scum never self roleblocks and never uses roleblocks to self clear and that roleblocks should be taken as biblical guarantee of townclearing truth and honesty

Yes but you go from saying that, to concluding that every single other player takes the opposite view to Eden.

That does not make logic.

no im saying since eden isnt playing the roleblocks are all real and everyone questioning the roleblocks is probably going down a rabbit hole eden would be here arguing is a moronic rabbit hole to be going down that wastes time

it was a provocative statement but im not sure how I feel since theres items that roleblock and scum maybe doesnt have any. theres other variables in play than typical hooker game

[brainbomb]

the ghug roleblock was 100% real and he also ate a bullet in the process. so we can confirm scum likes to bury their marked for death

[bozotheclown]

Yeah, with the kakarotto flip he just rose to the top of my suspicions.

I need to stop ignoring my initial D1 gutreads. They are so sexy.

Who do you think are Tom's 2 teammates? Who is 3p?

Have a few scenario's running through my head

Macca + Maniac? That defense of maniac calling Macca obv-town really didnt fall right with me. Nothing Macca has done the entire game has been towny. The weird message/gun thing also feels like the type of shit crazy ass Maniac could orchestrate. Besides that, ive mostly been townreading Maniac.

Jamiet + lfischl: Moderately far-fetched and probably not what happened. But, jamiet did seem very eased at the end of D2. Lfischl hasnt blasted at anyone being scum for voting/wagoning him (he normally is very spicy when voted).

Combination thinking is probably a bad approach anyway. Not feeling HB at all yet this game. Still thinking Foodcoats is dodgy as hell.

For 3P; no strong indications. I dislike that Bozo is focussed on it a lot, and he uses a lot of bad reasoning to point to people being 3P. Given the missing thefts it increases the odds of it being a roleblocked person slightly, but I dont have the feeling its you or snowy.

What specifically is wrong with my "reasoning" that pointed to you as a top 3P suspect? You ended on both DK wagons, and you were on Jamie's wagon when it looked like he could be the DK D2.

[brainbomb]

Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but this wording feels scummy. Does town really say that they were not caught?

I dunno, damo's my best guess right now. But I'm hesitant, which usually indicates that they're town, in which case I'm really out of luck.

That's why I'm considering advocating for a lurker policy, but even then I'm not even sure who I'd go for.

I'll join you on ##vote Damo.

Of the lurkers I don't want to kill rdr, Macca, and Kak. The latter two I've spoken about and the former purely for meta reasons.

The Maniac wagon I feel incredibly meh about. I struggle to see mafia letting town pick the scum lurker out of the batch.

celaph died for? has anyone speculated on what reads threatened scum which cel put out there?

[brainbomb]

I largely mislike Celaph because he has four posts in a row buddying up to Bob. One or two I can handle, but this seems excessive. Why go so far out of your way?

I've been harping on town Bob because I feel like his reads have been really well aligned with my own and I tend to assume that someone coming to the same conclusion as me is coming from a similar position as me.

scum fearing celaph keeping bob alive and they hoped bob was an option with cel dead

[Hamilton Brian]

anyone scumreading maniac will have to claw their way through my wall of brambles to even so much as touch him. he is my top town

See them as 3P?

[brainbomb]

anyone scumreading maniac will have to claw their way through my wall of brambles to even so much as touch him. he is my top town

See them as 3P?

your reads are horrible and weird and depressing. this means you are town or I just need alot of drugs to understand why.

[bozotheclown]

Macca voted for snowy D1 and snowy and me D2. I think we can assume no town would want to turn over this power to Macca today, so unless the 3P is playing games with us, the obvious conclusion is that the mafia were hoping Macca would challenge snowy or me today. It is so obvious, that I am a little concerned about the possibility that Macca and snowy are both scum, it which case today's outcome would make one or both look more like town. I don't mind DKing one to find out.

##VOTE Macca

I do realize Macca is claiming a 3P item.

[brainbomb]

are we actually killing between macca or snowy today?

[snowy801]

the ghug roleblock was 100% real and he also ate a bullet in the process. so we can confirm scum likes to bury their marked for death

I had a theory earlier, which went like this. It's a little down the rabbit hole, but hear me out:

I was roleblocked N2.
There were no kills, or saves N2.
vecna roleblocked worcej/Tom N2.

D2, I heavily shifted a stale end wagon from Jamiet/your slot to a flash wagon with options for worcej-Tom/Kakarroto/rdrivera.

damo helpfully targeted Kakarroto as the correct scum vote D2.
I insisted from start to end that we vote out worcej, or at least keep his wagon viable.

This theory relies on worcej-Tom being scum, but it basically goes that scum thought I was cop with a guilty on worcej and that's why I was so resistant on Kaka despite scum reading him consistently, hook-killed me, but got blocked in the process.

I think it has a moderate chance of being right, especially given the inclination not to give "soft clears" due to RB.

[snowy801]

are we actually killing between macca or snowy today?

No, I believe after much drama and ado we settled on no kill.

[bozotheclown]

Also, snowy backtracking on DKing Macca makes a snowy/Macca scum pairing a little more likely, with a lot of scum theater.