M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

I could see a circumstance where multiple scum lurked day 1 and then decided, well shit guys we cant all lurk all game.. But ill read the early ISOs over this coming night phase and see what transpires.

Thank you for welcoming me to the game and of course I pledge as always to give my best effort and due diligence. I cannot promise I will do more than youd all like. I also can almost guarantee that ill get something right. and a lot of things wrong

[brainbomb]

this appears to be a very daunting if not impossible game to sort scum to town by simply perusing post totals. normally a lowest poster stands out as obvious and im not seeing anything after day 1 which shows consistent scum lurking. I think day 1 may tell the tale better than the last two phases. But overall volume may simply be less helpful than the standard ive observed before. a chatty cathy scumteam and a karen third party mixed with a scumbag steve town makes for a game that devolves into trying to get items to do all the work.

We already killed one lurking scum (Kakarroto). I think worcej/Tom Bombadil is another, and there's actual evidence to back up that latter read. Not sure what you mean here.

I mean mutiple scum may have lurked day 1 and adjusted play for dispersal reasons

[Hamilton Brian]

Maniac believes bona had the fruit vendor (cheese)
Someone used both JOATs on Macca. Once was half day mute (d2), the other was gladiator. I suspect scum

IS the JOAT limited though? Other items indicate how many "servings" one gets. JOAT does not.

To my best knowledge cheese and JOATs are unlimited. My apologies, when I said both I meant both possible uses until now.

Ain't no thang. As much as I dislike thinking on items/mechanics/etc, the better off we are when we're collectively on the same page.

[Hamilton Brian]

what is everyones top three scumreads right now?

Tom/you/?

My stone-cold townreads are: Vecna, Maniac, Macca, Jamie, Damo. Myself, shouldn't need to be said but will say it in case someone comes in with a fundamentalist literal reading of what I wrote and yells, "Why didn't you include yourself? SCUM!!!"

[brainbomb]

brian what prompted you to need a break from playing mafia after this game?

[brainbomb]

what is everyones top three scumreads right now?

Tom/you/?

My stone-cold townreads are: Vecna, Maniac, Macca, Jamie, Damo. Myself, shouldn't need to be said but will say it in case someone comes in with a fundamentalist literal reading of what I wrote and yells, "Why didn't you include yourself? SCUM!!!"

so the entire scumteam requested subs or needed to be subbed? who killed ghug then? can you elaborate further on why you assume the only scum are people who couldnt keep up with the game?

[brainbomb]

if that many scum wanted out they probably felt the game was hopelessly lost and wouldve persauded mafia member 4 to just concede

[Hamilton Brian]

brian what prompted you to need a break from playing mafia after this game?

I have had an amazingly easy role in my profession for the past two years. I am returning to the classroom after that stretch of time, in a community full of priveleged folk with a great sense of entitlement. I am going to have to meet the needs of my students, in-class or remote, and massage the concerns of the parent community. I doubt I will have the idle time to commit to Mafia until winter, spring, and summer breaks.

[Hamilton Brian]

what is everyones top three scumreads right now?

Tom/you/?

My stone-cold townreads are: Vecna, Maniac, Macca, Jamie, Damo. Myself, shouldn't need to be said but will say it in case someone comes in with a fundamentalist literal reading of what I wrote and yells, "Why didn't you include yourself? SCUM!!!"

so the entire scumteam requested subs or needed to be subbed? who killed ghug then? can you elaborate further on why you assume the only scum are people who couldnt keep up with the game?

On the face of it, I don't like it. However, thus far, I have better feelings on the townreads or there is some VCA which validates it (to me, in my opinion).

[brainbomb]

to put it differently, you are describing a maf team with zero desire to play — much less win. a team where one guy was likely domineering every decision. surely youd have some notion on who could be so derivative and lording that they felt they could win without any help?

taking a deep dive into your thought process here and it makes zero sense unless you just think the scumteam is beyond distraught here

[brainbomb]

Tom/you/?

My stone-cold townreads are: Vecna, Maniac, Macca, Jamie, Damo. Myself, shouldn't need to be said but will say it in case someone comes in with a fundamentalist literal reading of what I wrote and yells, "Why didn't you include yourself? SCUM!!!"

so the entire scumteam requested subs or needed to be subbed? who killed ghug then? can you elaborate further on why you assume the only scum are people who couldnt keep up with the game?

On the face of it, I don't like it. However, thus far, I have better feelings on the townreads or there is some VCA which validates it (to me, in my opinion).

sounds like you just want an incredibly easy game that requires minimal critical thinking or exploration. doesnt make you scum but it speaks to systemic laziness of role madness games where town stops hunting and lets the game go autopilot

[foodcoats]

I don’t find the ghug wagon compelling, but the Bona wagon is interesting from a meta perspective. I’ve only played with Bona once and I don’t see him very scummy here, though. But on balance I think there’s a higher chance Bona would be scum than ghug just on pure randomness and meta tells.

this seems like acceptance. did you really just not care?

It was D1. I’m trying not to over indulge my content-based reads anymore - they’re usually wrong.

[brainbomb]

I don’t find the ghug wagon compelling, but the Bona wagon is interesting from a meta perspective. I’ve only played with Bona once and I don’t see him very scummy here, though. But on balance I think there’s a higher chance Bona would be scum than ghug just on pure randomness and meta tells.

this seems like acceptance. did you really just not care?

It was D1. I’m trying not to over indulge my content-based reads anymore - they’re usually wrong.

that is what you usually do as town but to a greater degree of grandeur. you follow 1100 leads on day 1 and your nose is red like a coked out transient usually by the time the phase ends. 10 posts? you've changed your day 1 meta to follow a meager amount of leads and feed into barely anyones early ideas?

[brainbomb]

@ Kakarroto, cel​aph, ghug, HB, lfischl, rdrivera, Macca, Maniac, Jamie, foodcoats, worcej: Why did you ignore my survey request?

Too much work.

That might sound really obnoxious and lazy but when I try hard (as town), I usually end up leading the pitchforking of other town.

My new method is to let the jimmies rustle through me.

You dont get better by burning down the house. you build a stronger foundation and get better by honing what you do best.

this is why you are scum. you simply wouldnt take this angle as town

[foodcoats]

For the scum team I think it’s pretty important how Tom develops in response to Vecna’s claim because it is not as ironclad as I at first though, especially considering how Vecna might play as scum.

I think damo, bozo and Jamie are very solid town. I townlean Macca and, the above notwithstanding, townlean Vecna. I townlean snowy but I think snowy could easily be powerwolf here.

Maniac is playing a really strong game. That’s weird - Maniac usually lurks as town. Combined with Kak shading him kind of lazily, I scumread Maniac.

I have no particular reasons to town or scum Brian, Bob or brainbomb/lfischl.

Rdr’s cop claim is fine but I don’t have a reason to townread rdr otherwise.

[foodcoats]

@ Kakarroto, cel​aph, ghug, HB, lfischl, rdrivera, Macca, Maniac, Jamie, foodcoats, worcej: Why did you ignore my survey request?

Too much work.

That might sound really obnoxious and lazy but when I try hard (as town), I usually end up leading the pitchforking of other town.

My new method is to let the jimmies rustle through me.

You dont get better by burning down the house. you build a stronger foundation and get better by honing what you do best.

this is why you are scum. you simply wouldnt take this angle as town

If you look closely enough there is a clear indication of why I’m town.

[brainbomb]

Meh.

##VOTE Kakarroto

You look so enthused

[Hamilton Brian]

sounds like you just want an incredibly easy game that requires minimal critical thinking or exploration. doesnt make you scum but it speaks to systemic laziness of role madness games where town stops hunting and lets the game go autopilot

I won't say you are 100% correct but you're not 100% wrong either. I think you've played in these item games with me, or at least when I was a 3P, and man...fucks me up.

[brainbomb]

do you wanna tell me which phase you did a thing that makes you obv town? im not seeing anything of value anywhere so far

[snowy801]

Hi Kaka!

I just got reminded, I'll send you a message sometime today on why I thought you were scum.

Reminder to everyone to once again +1 our lovely GM and send the God QT nice messages.