M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Maniac]

##VoteTom - seems clear to me

The capitalisation of Ghug is maybe just down to the fact that 'G' starts the sentence. I suppose we could discount anyone who starts sentences with a lower case letter.

[bozotheclown]

If you are mafia, you could have not used the RB and claimed it. However, there are other ways the NK could have been prevented, so I am not assuming Tom is scum. If Vecna claims to have RBed Tom, and Tom turns out to be mafia but not the hooker, it could mean the RB was not used so that the hooker was not at risk of being tracked.

What other ways could the NK have been prevented?

I believe the options are:
1. the NK target commuted
2. the NK target had the BP item
3. the NK target was protected by the brown rice item
4. the NK target was protected by the white rice item and damo is misleading us
5. the mafia did not attempt a NK

I do not think 4 or 5 are likely.

I forgot, the NK target could have been the 3P.

[bozotheclown]

Just wondering on a range from impossible to certain that the cop wouldn't use the scan if they still had it.

Is there a world where town would alternate their use of an item/skill? What would the pros of such an action be?

I just feel like Rivera's claim is dubious, but if no one else claims the role before EOD then I guess it's a clear. Unless ghug was the cop.

Bonatogether and celaph also had items that are not accounted for, so none of the players claiming items that started with town are clear.

[Hamilton Brian]

I forgot, the NK target could have been the 3P.

Right, forgot about that. "You scan as innocent and cannot be night-killed."

[bozotheclown]

If Vecna is implying what we assume he is, I think we should resolve this question today.

##VOTE Tom Bombadil

[Hamilton Brian]

##Vote Tom Bombadil

[Chaqa]

@GM are counting Vecna's vote on worcej as a vote on Tom?

No.

[Hamilton Brian]

##Vote Tom Bombadil

And if Tom indeed is mafia, then I think that semi-clears Maniac based on the worcej vote from Day 1.

[snowy801]

Oh no aw geez it wasn't to be like this

Guys, you're not supposed to actually push through my buses! You're supposed to just barely fall short of majority so I can use it for towncred later

Aw geez shucks sorry Tom guess I better bus yet another teammate to clear myself of how obvious these buses are

(by the way, if Tom turns scum, has anyone considered the manner and degree to which that implicates Jamiet?)

[snowy801]

Hey, it's Vecna and lfischl! How are my favorite absentees of the day doing

[Vecna]

@Vecna is my interpretation of your vote correct? I see no downside to outright claiming as it quasi townclears snowy. Not claiming outright makes you look a possible 3p.

Yes I roleblocked you N1 and Worcej N2. Ill give away my item at EoD

[Chaqa]

##CALL GM: Can the mafia roleblock be roleblocked by the roleblocking item?

No. Roleblocks happen simultaneously. If:

Player A uses a roleblock on Player B, but also tries to use another item on Player C

and Player B roleblocks Player A, while also trying to use another item on Player D

The items on players C and D would both be roleblocked.

[Vecna]

Oh I see
I was the rb/NK target
worcej Bombadil tried to kill me
They thought I was cop, for insisting on him, when everyone voted Kaka


...maybe? Would be nice if true

That would assume the mafia sent 2 different members to visit you, which seems very unlikely with a tracker and watcher.

If the mafia were going to use their RB, I would expect the roleblocker to perform the NK even if the RB and NK were on different players, so if Vecna RBed worcej and that is what prevented the NK, your RB claim looks suspect.

A wild bozo appears!

Okay, so if I didn't get hooked, who did? Nobody? Tom was just the hooker? What will you do if Tom doesn't turn out to be hooker?

If Tom flips the hooker, youre confirmed scum, since the hooker could not have roleblocked anyone the night they were roleblocked themselves.....

[Jamiet99uk]

Wait wait, I'm just re-reading Bozo's claims. Here are three posts that are very significant when put together.

The mafia must have had the gun item.

I received a message N2 that must have come from a mafia member, so they must have the mail item.

The message claimed to have a guilty scan on ghug.

So, Bozo, let's just get this straight.

You think that the Mafia had both the Steak and the Napkins, and they decided to send you a message claiming a fake guilty scan on Ghug, and then immediately after sending you this message, they also shot Ghug, revealing that the information in the message was false.

What possible reason would the scum team have for sending you a message and then immediately taking an action that invalidated the claim in that message?

I brought up one possible reason. Another is that with no NK, there was no way I would think that cop was not around to make the claim directly.

No, no, no.

This does not explain why the scum would send you that message and then shoot Ghug.

[Jamiet99uk]

OK, here is the message:

"Ghug is guilty."

I hope I did not misinterpret anything in this message.

Although, the capitalization could be of note.

I dunno, that could mean anything. Could it possibly be trying to say Jamiet is scum?

Also, question for you above.

WTF?

How the fuck could it be trying to say that????

[snowy801]

If Tom flips the hooker, youre confirmed scum, since the hooker could not have roleblocked anyone the night they were roleblocked themselves.....

Oh dear! If that's true, I better hope Tom doesn't flip hooker!

I dunno, I think Chaqa (the GM) disagrees with you there. Though admittedly I'm having trouble interpreting his message.

[snowy801]

OK, here is the message:

"Ghug is guilty."

I hope I did not misinterpret anything in this message.

Although, the capitalization could be of note.

I dunno, that could mean anything. Could it possibly be trying to say Jamiet is scum?

Also, question for you above.

WTF?

How the fuck could it be trying to say that????

Well you see, if you zoom into sector 3B of the message and enhance, then run it through the decryption enigma code and translate into ancient Babylonian it very clearly states "Jamiet is scum"

[Jamiet99uk]

I dunno, that could mean anything. Could it possibly be trying to say Jamiet is scum?

Also, question for you above.

WTF?

How the fuck could it be trying to say that????

Well you see, if you zoom into sector 3B of the message and enhance, then run it through the decryption enigma code and translate into ancient Babylonian it very clearly states "Jamiet is scum"

I don't know what you are on about so I assume this is shitposting.

[Vecna]

If Tom flips the hooker, youre confirmed scum, since the hooker could not have roleblocked anyone the night they were roleblocked themselves.....

Oh dear! If that's true, I better hope Tom doesn't flip hooker!

I dunno, I think Chaqa (the GM) disagrees with you there. Though admittedly I'm having trouble interpreting his message.

Yeah, apparently this game uses funny resolution. I stand corrected

[Jamiet99uk]

I've missed a few pages but has Bozo explained how he thinks Mafia sent him a message about a fake Ghug guilty and then immediately shot Ghug?

I still don't get it.