M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

##vote food until he moves off snowy

##VOTE Maniac

##unvote

[foodcoats]

I don’t understand why everyone is so obsessed with the steak shot.

But I’m vegetarian so

[Vecna]

##vote Worcej

Im quite far behind. Been doing way too much bad thigs the past 24h so I dont think ill be able to participate properly until tomorrow.

Vote on Worcej because of no NK. Figure it out

[bozotheclown]

##CALL GM: If the white rice holder self targeted, would they receive a message that they were targeted even if they were not saved from an attack?

[foodcoats]

HB and Maniac are both good wagons

So are Vecna, Tom Bombadil, and lfischl.

[damo666]

IMPORTANT INFO

My N2 result was that I ate a serving of white rice.

I asked if this meant I was saved.

The GM says NO.

Therefore either

The NKer was RB'd by town blocker
The NK target was 3p
Scum held their kill.

I think we can safely rule out the third and of the other 2 I think the 3p target much the likelier.

I think this does point to a 3p Maniac.

According to the role description: "The target will only be informed if they were saved from an attack." This sounds like you should not have received any message if you were not saved, but maybe you did because you used it on yourself.

I interpret the message as "you have tried to save someone" [me as it happens but that is not relevant]

I didn't get the message N1 because I was roleblocked.

I assume the "you were saved" message would be different and I didn't get it. This would be in accordance with the role description.

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo - do you want to share the contents of the message with the class?

I also assume that Mafia hit Ghug but don’t know why they waited to D3 so I suppose it could be a townie with a strong read.

The message claimed to have a guilty scan on ghug.

I don't think the gun was active D1, and they could have acquired it D2 and not been able to active it until N2. Or they may have waited to use it.

What was the precise wording of the message, copy pasted?

I am not sure I am supposed to copy a GM message, but the wording in not significant.

[bozotheclown]

Why are 3 people voting an rb claimant?

Because claiming the RB does not clear the claimant.

[damo666]

##vote Worcej

Im quite far behind. Been doing way too much bad thigs the past 24h so I dont think ill be able to participate properly until tomorrow.

Vote on Worcej because of no NK. Figure it out

I assume townVecna role blocked worcej

##vote Tom Bombadil

@Vecna you roleblocked a townie N1 and TomB has replaced worcej

[snowy801]

The message claimed to have a guilty scan on ghug.

I don't think the gun was active D1, and they could have acquired it D2 and not been able to active it until N2. Or they may have waited to use it.

What was the precise wording of the message, copy pasted?

I am not sure I am supposed to copy a GM message, but the wording in not significant.

I think it will be okay, as this is not a GM message but a player sent one. I'm not asking you to copy paste the message Chaqa wrote in the periphery, just the actual napkin.

##CALL GM opinion on this?

Oh except claiming is still bad in general because 3P and their POE for steals.

Just. Give. Your. God. Damned. Item. Away.

[damo666]

Why are 3 people voting an rb claimant?

Because claiming the RB does not clear the claimant.

I think we can now assume scum RBd snowy. I suppose snowy could still be 3p who planned to move back to Kak but was caught out by the hammer but it seems a strange thing for 3p to do.

[bozotheclown]

I was thinking (dangerous as it is), and it's strange to me that 1) ghug was shot before bozo mentioned the letter and 2) Bozo waited that long to mention it.

2) aside, what 1) says is that these events were independent. Mafia goes to frame ghug with the napkin, but 3p (because yes, they can start with steak) kills him for his item (which they presumably knew thanks to their scan). Why not take the item in the night? Maybe there was someone else better to steal from.

I waited until after ghug was shot because that is when I knew for certain that the message did not come from town.

You knew ghug was gonna get shot?

Obviously not, but if he had not been shot, I would not have brought up the message until I found out if there was a cop claim.

[damo666]

I waited until after ghug was shot because that is when I knew for certain that the message did not come from town.

You knew ghug was gonna get shot?

Obviously not, but if he had not been shot, I would not have brought up the message until I found out if there was a cop claim.

So rather than 'waiting' you meant 'once ghug had been shot it was safe to reveal the message'. It's unusual of you to be so sloppy.

[snowy801]

Why are 3 people voting an rb claimant?

Because claiming the RB does not clear the claimant.

I think we can now assume scum RBd snowy. I suppose snowy could still be 3p who planned to move back to Kak but was caught out by the hammer but it seems a strange thing for 3p to do.

I did in fact plan on moving back to Kakarroto but got caught out by the hammer. Good catch!

Alas, poor Tom Bombadil. We knew him well.

[bozotheclown]

You knew ghug was gonna get shot?

Obviously not, but if he had not been shot, I would not have brought up the message until I found out if there was a cop claim.

So rather than 'waiting' you meant 'once ghug had been shot it was safe to reveal the message'. It's unusual of you to be so sloppy.

I was not planning on bringing up the message until we had a cop claim or it was clear no cop was going to claim, but when ghug was confirmed as town, there was no reason to wait. I think that should have been clear despite the wording.

[snowy801]

I was not planning on bringing up the message until we had a cop claim or it was clear no cop was going to claim, but when ghug was confirmed as town, there was no reason to wait. I think that should have been clear despite the wording.

It was. Damo's just being a grouchypants right now.

[damo666]

I was not planning on bringing up the message until we had a cop claim or it was clear no cop was going to claim, but when ghug was confirmed as town, there was no reason to wait. I think that should have been clear despite the wording.

It was. Damo's just being a grouchypants right now.

OK OK

Btw why aren't you voting Tom? Why isn't everyone?

[bozotheclown]

IMPORTANT INFO

My N2 result was that I ate a serving of white rice.

I asked if this meant I was saved.

The GM says NO.

Therefore either

The NKer was RB'd by town blocker
The NK target was 3p
Scum held their kill.

I think we can safely rule out the third and of the other 2 I think the 3p target much the likelier.

I think this does point to a 3p Maniac.

According to the role description: "The target will only be informed if they were saved from an attack." This sounds like you should not have received any message if you were not saved, but maybe you did because you used it on yourself.

I interpret the message as "you have tried to save someone" [me as it happens but that is not relevant]

I didn't get the message N1 because I was roleblocked.

I assume the "you were saved" message would be different and I didn't get it. This would be in accordance with the role description.

You may have received a message since you were using the item as well as being the target, but "I ate a serving of white rice" sounds like something only the target should have received.

[snowy801]

I was not planning on bringing up the message until we had a cop claim or it was clear no cop was going to claim, but when ghug was confirmed as town, there was no reason to wait. I think that should have been clear despite the wording.

It was. Damo's just being a grouchypants right now.

OK OK

Btw why aren't you voting Tom? Why isn't everyone?

Sitting on the obvious wagon all day is boring

[damo666]

According to the role description: "The target will only be informed if they were saved from an attack." This sounds like you should not have received any message if you were not saved, but maybe you did because you used it on yourself.

I interpret the message as "you have tried to save someone" [me as it happens but that is not relevant]

I didn't get the message N1 because I was roleblocked.

I assume the "you were saved" message would be different and I didn't get it. This would be in accordance with the role description.

You may have received a message since you were using the item as well as being the target, but "I ate a serving of white rice" sounds like something only the target should have received.

Yeah maybe I got it as target.

Anyway the point is on N2 I saved myself but wasn't the NK target and on N1 I was roleblocked.