M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2421 Post by foodcoats » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:06 pm

Macca573 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:00 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:43 am
Regarding the steak, I’m surprised there’s so much assumption that town could/should not hipfire. It has two shots, and the wielder might be worried about it falling into nefarious hands.

Regarding Macca’s salad, I’m willing to believe this is Mafia trying to set Macca up for now, but it could just as easily be a townie who is convinced Macca is scum and is pushing on them this way.

This game is beautifully balanced because claims are massively, massively disincentivized because of the steal and copy mechanics and the 3P. Very surprised Bob and snowy advocating for claims because it’s so antitown.
This is blatantly incorrect.
Woops. Sorry.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2422 Post by Chaqa » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:15 pm

Macca573 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:04 pm
##CALL GM

The way I'm reading it, if you equip the tortilla it stays until you get shot. Is this correct?
Yes.

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#2423 Post by damo666 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:20 pm

BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:01 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:27 pm
If brown rice with town don't use it on me. If it's with mafia I die tonight. Else I guess I die N4.

At least I bought us some time.
why should town not use the brown rice on you tonight?
Because if I save myself it would be negated.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2424 Post by damo666 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:24 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:55 pm
BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:53 pm
damo, what did you do with the rice on n1?
I saved someone who wasn't the NK target.
But I was roleblocked so it wasn't effected. It wasn't on celpah anyway.

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#2425 Post by damo666 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:28 pm

IMPORTANT INFO

My N2 result was that I ate a serving of white rice.

I asked if this meant I was saved.

The GM says NO.

Therefore either

The NKer was RB'd by town blocker
The NK target was 3p
Scum held their kill.

I think we can safely rule out the third and of the other 2 I think the 3p target much the likelier.

I think this does point to a 3p Maniac.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2426 Post by snowy801 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:36 pm

##GM CALL

Can you roleblock a factional kill?

---END

What a weird assumption to make. This is not how mafia normally works.

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#2427 Post by BobMcBob » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:38 pm

okay im pretty sure damos just town here, but to confirm
##call gm if someone is role blocked while trying to use an item, do they lose that use of the item or keep it?

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#2428 Post by snowy801 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:41 pm

(Remember to +1 your GMs, and send nice messages to God QT! Now seems like a great time to express your thoughts there)

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2429 Post by damo666 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:43 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:36 pm
##GM CALL

Can you roleblock a factional kill?

---END

What a weird assumption to make. This is not how mafia normally works.
Para 4 of OP indicates NK carried out by an individual. Town blocker could block that individual and prevent NK no?

Might be why we've only had one RB claim today.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2430 Post by Maniac » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:44 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:28 pm
IMPORTANT INFO

My N2 result was that I ate a serving of white rice.

I asked if this meant I was saved.

The GM says NO.

Therefore either

The NKer was RB'd by town blocker
The NK target was 3p
Scum held their kill.

I think we can safely rule out the third and of the other 2 I think the 3p target much the likelier.

I think this does point to a 3p Maniac.
Damo - we're three days in. May I suggest reading the set-up
Here are some ways the NK didn't go through:

The other doctor may have saved someone
The Mafia may have targeted the bulletproof
The NK target may have commuted
Someone may have copied your rice and used that

Add these to your reasons why no one was killed (Killer was RB'd and mafia opted for NK (poss to frame me)) then that's half-a-dozen reasons why no one died last night.

Without more info, we're just guessing and then trying to draw solid conclusions from those guesses.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2431 Post by damo666 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:45 pm

Pretty sure food is town.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2432 Post by damo666 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:51 pm

Maniac wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:44 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:28 pm
IMPORTANT INFO

My N2 result was that I ate a serving of white rice.

I asked if this meant I was saved.

The GM says NO.

Therefore either

The NKer was RB'd by town blocker
The NK target was 3p
Scum held their kill.

I think we can safely rule out the third and of the other 2 I think the 3p target much the likelier.

I think this does point to a 3p Maniac.
Damo - we're three days in. May I suggest reading the set-up
Here are some ways the NK didn't go through:

The other doctor may have saved someone
The Mafia may have targeted the bulletproof
The NK target may have commuted
Someone may have copied your rice and used that

Add these to your reasons why no one was killed (Killer was RB'd and mafia opted for NK (poss to frame me)) then that's half-a-dozen reasons why no one died last night.

Without more info, we're just guessing and then trying to draw solid conclusions from those guesses.
O I never thought of those.

##unvote

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#2433 Post by snowy801 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:51 pm

Once again, I need the cop to claim now. You are throwing the game if you don't.

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#2434 Post by damo666 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:56 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:51 pm
Once again, I need the cop to claim now. You are throwing the game if you don't.
Seconded

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#2435 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:57 pm

In reading back the whole way bozo dropped the information about the letter was just weird. I look at it now and it just seems purposefully evasive or slow to come to a conclusion.

It's like the old joke about not delivering bad news immediately but slowly.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2436 Post by Chaqa » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:58 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:36 pm
##GM CALL

Can you roleblock a factional kill?

---END

What a weird assumption to make. This is not how mafia normally works.
If the mafia member making a kill is roleblocked, the kill will be roleblocked, as roleblocked prevent all actions being taken (with a few exceptions based on resolution order)

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2437 Post by snowy801 » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:00 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:57 pm
In reading back the whole way bozo dropped the information about the letter was just weird. I look at it now and it just seems purposefully evasive or slow to come to a conclusion.

It's like the old joke about not delivering bad news immediately but slowly.
Disagree. First thing he says after ghug death was revealed was "must've been from scum"
a) shows natural thought progression "is this real" -> "guess not"
b) shows he didn't pre-plan his response, because it's basic and illogical

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2438 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:01 pm

Maniac wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:03 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:09 am
Two roll black claims and one has perished. Coincidence or by design?
This isn’t so much a scum slip as a confession

Wrong; thanks for checking in. I was simply saying that we had two RB claims for N1, one of which was ghug. And now ghug is dead. That's all.

You seem pretty quick to try to frame me which is your right, but wrong tree, barking and all that.

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2439 Post by BobMcBob » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:02 pm

BobMcBob wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:38 pm
okay im pretty sure damos just town here, but to confirm
##call gm if someone is role blocked while trying to use an item, do they lose that use of the item or keep it?
##gm call?
one of those things

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Re: M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

#2440 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:03 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:00 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:57 pm
In reading back the whole way bozo dropped the information about the letter was just weird. I look at it now and it just seems purposefully evasive or slow to come to a conclusion.

It's like the old joke about not delivering bad news immediately but slowly.
Disagree. First thing he says after ghug death was revealed was "must've been from scum"
a) shows natural thought progression "is this real" -> "guess not"
b) shows he didn't pre-plan his response, because it's basic and illogical
Hmm, maybe. A and B seem like reasonable conclusions.

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