M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Hamilton Brian]

A shot rings out!

Ghug has died! He was a Chipotle employee!

The hell? How!

[Maniac]

A shot rings out!

Ghug has died! He was a Chipotle employee!

The hell? How!

There is a day vig

[bozotheclown]

A shot rings out!

Ghug has died! He was a Chipotle employee!

The hell? How!

The mafia must have had the gun item.

[bozotheclown]

I received a message N2 that must have come from a mafia member, so they must have the mail item.

[Maniac]

@Bozo - do you want to share the contents of the message with the class?

I also assume that Mafia hit Ghug but don’t know why they waited to D3 so I suppose it could be a townie with a strong read.

[Hamilton Brian]

I received a message N2 that must have come from a mafia member, so they must have the mail item.

Is there a reason to assume it was from a mafia member? Don’t have the time to search for the specifics on the dock so that is why I’m asking.

[Hamilton Brian]

And Snowy, how are you feeling about reads lists from others right now. Mine? maniac’s? I am feeling like I am seeing you asking a lot of questions without actually putting yourself out there with specific reasons for reading people one way or the other.

[bozotheclown]

I received a message N2 that must have come from a mafia member, so they must have the mail item.

Is there a reason to assume it was from a mafia member? Don’t have the time to search for the specifics on the dock so that is why I’m asking.

I would hope a town member would not shoot anyone without giving them a chance to claim their item, or at least wait to hear if they have any results.

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo - do you want to share the contents of the message with the class?

I also assume that Mafia hit Ghug but don’t know why they waited to D3 so I suppose it could be a townie with a strong read.

The message claimed to have a guilty scan on ghug.

I don't think the gun was active D1, and they could have acquired it D2 and not been able to active it until N2. Or they may have waited to use it.

[Hamilton Brian]

But it doesn’t say from whom the letter was?

[Hamilton Brian]

Two roll black claims and one has perished. Coincidence or by design?

[Jamiet99uk]

Ahoy chums.

I'm slightly drunk and not caught up.

Looking at the Bot before I catch up I see Tom is here for Worcej (welcome, Tom) and Ghug appears to have been the NK?

RIP Ghug. Sorry about our battles: I hope to avenge you in the name of Chipolte.

[BobMcBob]

okay now this is interesting
no nightkill, plus mafia apparently got their hands on beef (i believe?) at some point

[Jamiet99uk]

I received a message N2 that must have come from a mafia member, so they must have the mail item.

What message?

[Jamiet99uk]

OH shit so there was not NK but Ghug has been shot?

Whoah.

RIP Ghug.

[bozotheclown]

But it doesn’t say from whom the letter was?

no

[Jamiet99uk]

But it doesn’t say from whom the letter was?

no

What is this the vegan tofu thing or something else?

Who is sending lettters? What is bozo claiming?

[foodcoats]

I'm really struggling to decide if I think Kakarroto's treatment of Maniac was bussing or trying to get a miskill.

Obviously I strongly believe Jamie is town based on the development of the wagons.

I was originally joke-voting snowy this phase but actually snowy's EOD2 treatment of Kaka looks very SvS. I have to read snowy's whole iso to get a better idea of that, ugh.

D1 snowy does not interact with Kak much other than to ask a couple questions. Asking questions is the Way of Snowy. NAI.

About halfway through N1 snowy lists Kak as one of his main suspects (no reasoning has ever been presented to this point): "damo, jamiet, kakarroto, and (incidentally) you HB". I think damo is town for the way he sparked the Kak flash, and Jamie for being Kak's preferred wagon. So I'd say good odds two of snowy's scum suspects N1 are town, one is scum, and one is unknown.

Wow, Jamie was top poster D2! Well done sir.

D2 snowy has a whopping 30+ references to Kak... slots him as possibly scum again with no reasoning and repeatedly asks what people think of Kakarroto.

However, this particular post does strike me as town!snowy who has been coalescing on a discomfort about Kak and is now formalizing that into specific things that bother him, very townie points here:

My best guess is he noticed he's kept putting his foot in his mouth and is deliberately invoking his cantankerous image to avoid digging a deeper hole, whilst simultaneously trying not to appear like he's running away.

But hey, scene change:

Anyone have any opinions on that Kakarroto guy? How about you, Maniac? Welcome to the game.

Kakarroto is interesting. He voted for me for allegedly responding to their post, and has not moved off me since. No thought development or even checking why they originally voted for me. It's quite odd, but not sure if it's alignment indicative. I do like their humour. It is ironic that he calls out lfischl and Macca for being lurkers when he has so few posts.

How do you feel about Kaka popping his head near EoD and saying "glad people are following me" on you as though he had a solid reason to keep voting you, even if his original vote was (so far as I can tell) a joke?

How do you further feel him saying "let's pick up where we left off" start of day today, instead of you know, literally taking anything else that happened in the game into account?

How do you last feel about Kaka dismissing the first four people who were on Bona's wagon as possibly being scummy as part of his "let's scum-analyze anyone who voted Bona" initiative?

But he also asks damo to "sell him" on flash-wagoning Kakarroto, even though Kak has appeared throughout his scum listing of the day. He prefers worcej - even though damo and Jamie are still on his list from the day before, and Jamie is a big wagon and could be taken down.

And now when I go look at snowy's references to worcej, he doesn't ever really explain why. So he did a good job of coming round to clearly scumreading Kakarotto but then prefers to flash-kill worcej, who he has not spoken about. Although, this could be "normal" in that he wanted to kill Bona for not participating. But... he also questioned other people who were reasoning about killing lurkers. Hmm.

I don't have a definite conclusion here but it is definitely eminently possible for snowy to be scum with Kak. I don't doubt snowy would be good at scum and would be able to bus Kak this way. And it certainly does look like he prepped to bus Kak... possible because no one else really suspected Kak. Snowy is the only person who voted for Kakarroto before the flash wagon happened. So if snowy was scum it could've been a good opportunity to lay the seeds for later... but then it got out of his control.

Meh.

[foodcoats]

But it doesn’t say from whom the letter was?

no

What is this the vegan tofu thing or something else?

Who is sending lettters? What is bozo claiming?

I believe it's the napkins.

But if bozo got mail trying to fool town into DKing ghug, then the gun is likely still in town's hands. Scum would coordinate and would not frame ghug and then kill him... that's a waste.

[Jamiet99uk]

How can Bozo know that the napkin message came from Scum?