M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

ooooookay, finally got to the end of d2
im going to go away and ruminate on that for a bit before continuing (read: catch up on a bit of youtube that i missed yesterday)
before i go though, two things stuck out to me
bozos voting pattern and reasoning looked bad, could be scum indicative
snowy is very likely town out of this, id be super impressed if this was a scum performance
pushing so hard to break down the leading wagon structures resulting in a scum getting killed does not seem like something scum would do here
snowy, you can replace celaph in my cool people club

I agree with this analysis, with regard to Snowy.

Snowy could (as an outside shot) be the Third Party but I can't see him playing the way he did at EoD2 if he was Kak's scum team mate.

[snowy801]

We've already established that I am in fact Kak's scummate bussing him though, so that can't be right.

[Jamiet99uk]

glue works way too quickly for that to be what happened
the fact that it triggered exactly one minute before eod is rather telling dont you think?

I thought it had a five-minute delay?

it does, but someone wanting to stop kak running away would presumably have done it around about the third or fourth vote for him, which was 5 minutes earlier
if i had to guess id warrant they used it as late as possible while still confirming it had been used

This assumes everyone with an item will use that item in the optimal way, at the optimal time.

I, however, would not make that assumption, because I have played this game often enough to witness all kinds of people fuck up their item use in a wide variety of entertaining ways.

[Jamiet99uk]

We've already established that I am in fact Kak's scummate bussing him though, so that can't be right.

I find that quite unlikely.

[BobMcBob]

To those who claim that I missed the fact that 3p didn't notice, I direct you to state 1, where they take the item that they viewed day 1. I don't see any reason to not take an item if it's available.

Oh, I didn't realize that they could take items outside their list.

I feel like this implicates bozo (in addition to the obvious me/damo), because he reads the setup.

I suppose there's an outside shot they stole from celaph or didn't steal at all because they expected this line of logic.

Why outside the list?

3p scans player X who has one of their required items so 3p steals it.

If someone had an item stolen N1 (especially one the 3p requires) I think they should claim.

In the event of no such claim I have to make ghug a strong suspect. He was the only player on both Bona and Jamie and the rb would then explain Jamie retaining chicken.

If there is a claim ghug is clear.

If no claim has arisen by near EON strongly suggest Mafia RB ghug.

make up your mind laddie
is it maniac or is it ghug?
are they both 3p?
wont you be absolutely flabbergasted if ghug is 3p?

[BobMcBob]

I thought it had a five-minute delay?

it does, but someone wanting to stop kak running away would presumably have done it around about the third or fourth vote for him, which was 5 minutes earlier
if i had to guess id warrant they used it as late as possible while still confirming it had been used

This assumes everyone with an item will use that item in the optimal way, at the optimal time.

I, however, would not make that assumption, because I have played this game often enough to witness all kinds of people fuck up their item use in a wide variety of entertaining ways.

either way, it was a marvellous usage of the item, very fortunate, and im glad it played out that way
if mafia did it, i salute them and thank them gratefully

[damo666]

Current prediction

Maf: Bozo worcej + a townread like Bob or HamB
3p: Maniac

Plea to Mafia: please nk Maniac
Plea to doc: please do not save Maniac
If Maniac does not die he is nailed as 3p

Why is Damo so absolutely certain that Maniac is specifically the Third Party?

I am not. Read

[snowy801]

I am not. Read

Honestly though it is tiring seeing people ask the same questions about something over and over again even if it's already been explained.

Read, please. If illiterate, uh, someone who's not me is offering lessons.

[BobMcBob]

Cont/

If Mafia nk Maniac and RB ghug and town RB Maniac and doc not save Maniac then

No death would imply Maniac 3p (unless Jamie item stolen but I think that's impossible because why would Maniac then not die.

If Maniac dies and item not stolen ghug looks guilty.

If Maniac dies and item is stolen then ghug is not 3p.

okay so let me get this straight
on n2, with 3p having a maximum of 3 necessary items currently, we're going to work with mafia, use the final shot of the town rb on someone we dont think is scum, rely on the goodwill of the mafia to ensure this plan succeeds, mysteriously include ghug as a 3p suspect when you had strongly excluded him earlier, all to attempt catch the 3p earlier than is likely necessary?

[BobMcBob]

@Damo - just so I understand this...

You were on both daykills. You say you were RB when Jamie’s chicken wasn’t stolen and now you want to encourage town and Mafia to RB Ghug and me. You have a keen interest in who the 3P is.

An impartial observer might see a pattern here.

Yep. Obviously I could be 3p but from what I've hinted it should be very clear I'm not. Also, I would hardly be banging on about 3p if I were would I?

I note you haven't denied my accusation.

damos 3p logic is about as good as bonas logic for how everyone should vote when hes scum and trying to be disruptive
which is to say, not good
damo you have not cleared yourself from anything
also, if your "hints" should make it "clear" why bother with only hints?
shy not fully explain it if its so obvious anyway?

[damo666]

Eh, I think you, Vecna, fishy all look pretty good. Partial credit to Snowy, too. Jamie had no choice in the matter, and it was already decided when food moved (3P candidate, maybe?).

If Jamie is scum, y'all get a tiny bit less credit, but I still think you're pretty certain town.

food is definitely not 3p

damo rather than dancing around pretending you have a clue for ages please state your garbage logic now so we can all berate you for how garbage it is and then move on
either that or tell us what it is so we actually have something to work on rather than blindly looking at a list of names you decided were cool

Try thinking rather than relying on being spoonfed

[snowy801]

Try thinking rather than relying on being spoonfed

Okay let's not go so far. Just because your words are parseable doesn't mean there's an ounce of sense in it.

Also don't be an ass.

[damo666]

Oh, I didn't realize that they could take items outside their list.

I feel like this implicates bozo (in addition to the obvious me/damo), because he reads the setup.

I suppose there's an outside shot they stole from celaph or didn't steal at all because they expected this line of logic.

Why outside the list?

3p scans player X who has one of their required items so 3p steals it.

If someone had an item stolen N1 (especially one the 3p requires) I think they should claim.

In the event of no such claim I have to make ghug a strong suspect. He was the only player on both Bona and Jamie and the rb would then explain Jamie retaining chicken.

If there is a claim ghug is clear.

If no claim has arisen by near EON strongly suggest Mafia RB ghug.

make up your mind laddie
is it maniac or is it ghug?
are they both 3p?
wont you be absolutely flabbergasted if ghug is 3p?

I should have included ghug in my original list.

Do not call me laddie.

[BobMcBob]

food is definitely not 3p

damo rather than dancing around pretending you have a clue for ages please state your garbage logic now so we can all berate you for how garbage it is and then move on
either that or tell us what it is so we actually have something to work on rather than blindly looking at a list of names you decided were cool

Try thinking rather than relying on being spoonfed

why dont you try using actual logic instead of pretending that you have it while not telling us what it is in an attempt to prevent us from realising it isnt there
i have done plenty of thinking this game, and none of that should be taken up dealing with your purposefully obtuse trash
if you want to see an example of just how productive dropping hints and speaking in obscurities instead of communicating clearly can be, see exhibit a: jamie and ghug spewing 10s of completely useless posts because neither one was willing to actually point to what theyd said without adding at least two levels of obscurity
if you want to make helpful theories, being helpful in your execution tends to be helpful, as surprising as that may seem

[damo666]

Try thinking rather than relying on being spoonfed

Okay let's not go so far. Just because your words are parseable doesn't mean there's an ounce of sense in it.

Also don't be an ass.

Wow. Stop abusing me.

[TheMadMonarch]

Question of the hour:

Why was Jamie's item not stolen last night?

/snip

who are you, and what have you done with macca?

Remember Bob, actually doing something is my town tell. When I'm playing town I will think about stuff. It's just that, since I don't play much town, this doesn't get seen.

[snowy801]

Try thinking rather than relying on being spoonfed

Okay let's not go so far. Just because your words are parseable doesn't mean there's an ounce of sense in it.

Also don't be an ass.

Wow. Stop abusing me.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[BobMcBob]

Why outside the list?

3p scans player X who has one of their required items so 3p steals it.

If someone had an item stolen N1 (especially one the 3p requires) I think they should claim.

In the event of no such claim I have to make ghug a strong suspect. He was the only player on both Bona and Jamie and the rb would then explain Jamie retaining chicken.

If there is a claim ghug is clear.

If no claim has arisen by near EON strongly suggest Mafia RB ghug.

make up your mind laddie
is it maniac or is it ghug?
are they both 3p?
wont you be absolutely flabbergasted if ghug is 3p?

I should have included ghug in my original list.

Do not call me laddie.

see this is why you should reveal your logic
so if you screw up and do a bad then we dont sit here trying to parse incomplete information that makes no sense
i seriously doubt it will undermine your theory if you actually explain it
and if that is the case, at least make that clear
laddie

[damo666]

damo rather than dancing around pretending you have a clue for ages please state your garbage logic now so we can all berate you for how garbage it is and then move on
either that or tell us what it is so we actually have something to work on rather than blindly looking at a list of names you decided were cool

Try thinking rather than relying on being spoonfed

why dont you try using actual logic instead of pretending that you have it while not telling us what it is in an attempt to prevent us from realising it isnt there
i have done plenty of thinking this game, and none of that should be taken up dealing with your purposefully obtuse trash
if you want to see an example of just how productive dropping hints and speaking in obscurities instead of communicating clearly can be, see exhibit a: jamie and ghug spewing 10s of completely useless posts because neither one was willing to actually point to what theyd said without adding at least two levels of obscurity
if you want to make helpful theories, being helpful in your execution tends to be helpful, as surprising as that may seem

Ffs I said I know food is not 3p. There are others I know are not 3p. Can you really not work it out.

Ask ghug.

Will not be on again before EON

[damo666]

Ok you thick bastards I got kak's item. I am not 3p. Therefore 3p was not on kak wagon.

Now maf can NK me.

Thanks a lot.

Learn to engage brain.