M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Current prediction

Maf: Bozo worcej + a townread like Bob or HamB
3p: Maniac

Plea to Mafia: please nk Maniac
Plea to doc: please do not save Maniac
If Maniac does not die he is nailed as 3p

Why is Damo so absolutely certain that Maniac is specifically the Third Party?

[Jamiet99uk]

To those who claim that I missed the fact that 3p didn't notice, I direct you to state 1, where they take the item that they viewed day 1. I don't see any reason to not take an item if it's available.

Oh, I didn't realize that they could take items outside their list.

I feel like this implicates bozo (in addition to the obvious me/damo), because he reads the setup.

I suppose there's an outside shot they stole from celaph or didn't steal at all because they expected this line of logic.

Yes, apparently the 3P is a general Item Thief with a particular win con. It just happens that some, but not all, of the items contribute to that win con. But in theory they can try to steal whatever they like.

[Jamiet99uk]

To those who claim that I missed the fact that 3p didn't notice, I direct you to state 1, where they take the item that they viewed day 1. I don't see any reason to not take an item if it's available.

Oh, I didn't realize that they could take items outside their list.

I feel like this implicates bozo (in addition to the obvious me/damo), because he reads the setup.

I suppose there's an outside shot they stole from celaph or didn't steal at all because they expected this line of logic.

Why outside the list?

3p scans player X who has one of their required items so 3p steals it.

If someone had an item stolen N1 (especially one the 3p requires) I think they should claim.

In the event of no such claim I have to make ghug a strong suspect. He was the only player on both Bona and Jamie and the rb would then explain Jamie retaining chicken.

If there is a claim ghug is clear.

If no claim has arisen by near EON strongly suggest Mafia RB ghug.

For the avoidance of doubt I can confirm that I was *not* robbed on N1.

I am not going to confirm or deny, at this point in time, whether or not I gave away my second helping of chicken, or who I might have given it to.

[Jamiet99uk]

Why is that?

What do you think of Macca? Do you think it is true they dislike you personally?

excuse me where the heck did this question come from?
you quote an entirely unrelated post and ask him about personal dislike
what was the point of this?
why did it come up?

Bozo had just voted for Macca before he asked me this question, so I assume he was trying to see if other people would join his Macca wagon.

Quite straightforward, no?

[Jamiet99uk]

What do you think of Macca? Do you think it is true they dislike you personally?

excuse me where the heck did this question come from?
you quote an entirely unrelated post and ask him about personal dislike
what was the point of this?
why did it come up?

Macca openly stated they dislike Jamiet as a person. Keep up man, I understand it's hard to read upside down but I can do it, so can you

Why is Bob upside down?

[BobMcBob]

that 3P party push from jamie is just ridiculous, even as a non-native english speaker I'm confident that refers to a 'neutral party between the two of ghug and jamie'.

To the consolidation of votes regarding jamie: so I have the choice of a lurker, one of my bigger mafia reads, one of my highest townreads and a townish one; or go yolo solo.

So realistically, lfishl or jamie. While I do not like lfishls game, I think with what he has shown, jamie has a higher percentage of being mafia. ##vote jamie

furthermore, I want you all to inform, that I have today and tomorrow nightshift, so I'll miss EoD and EoN. I'll prepare myself to go to work right now and have a look back here before I go.

If Kakarroto had followed his EON reads list, lfischl would have been his choice over Jamie. He could have just voted for lfischl and probably not drawn the suspicion that he did, so maybe he did this because lfischl is mafia.

it is laughably easy to tell which posts are bozos without looking at the user
the logic here is very bad, in a very bozo way

[BobMcBob]

excuse me where the heck did this question come from?
you quote an entirely unrelated post and ask him about personal dislike
what was the point of this?
why did it come up?

Macca openly stated they dislike Jamiet as a person. Keep up man, I understand it's hard to read upside down but I can do it, so can you

Why is Bob upside down?

i live in upsidedownland of course

[Jamiet99uk]

Someone help me out here by confirming that it is normal to respond to questions after they are asked, not before.

i believe this is how maths works
damo can you help us out here?

Ghug, I think Bob is trolling you.

[BobMcBob]

What do you think of Macca? Do you think it is true they dislike you personally?

excuse me where the heck did this question come from?
you quote an entirely unrelated post and ask him about personal dislike
what was the point of this?
why did it come up?

Bozo had just voted for Macca before he asked me this question, so I assume he was trying to see if other people would join his Macca wagon.

Quite straightforward, no?

yeah well that just looks bad, doesnt it?
its very strange to just go "hey, wanna omgus with me?"

[Hamilton Brian]

Why did you just re-post these three?
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Couldn't read it or something on my phone so I copied and pasted so I could see.

[TheMadMonarch]

Another possibility is that the 3P didnt really notice jamiets claim, and just didnt find an item worthwhile stealing.

That scenario would suggest the 3P is someone who isn't very observant, such as Macca.

Fair enough. But I'm not the 3p.

[TheMadMonarch]

What I think is quite interesting is damo's relationship with 3p. He's brought it up a bunch, and seems to have thought a lot about its mechanics. He was also on both wagons that did the kills. This also fits with some earlier theories of mine and others surrounding the lack of N1 item theft and his RB.

[BobMcBob]

Question of the hour:

Why was Jamie's item not stolen last night?

/snip

who are you, and what have you done with macca?

[Hamilton Brian]

Wouldn’t that be kind of funny or ironic if the 3P was one of Macca or Bob? The whole point of the role is to steal those items from the daykilled and they can’t be around EOD to do that.

Simple Brian brain is that the 3P is going to be jumping on every majority wagon.

Conspiratorial brian brain is that the 3P is going to look more and choose their moments wisely.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think the 3P is well aware of how he acquires items.

This is a fair comment from Bozo, although I note the interesting assumption that Macca is not the third party

that was very mean jamie
although also rather amusing

I was trying to be the opposite of mean, by being respectful of Macca's chosen pronouns and gently alerting Bozo to the fact that he had (probably without realising) made a gendered assumption which excluded Macca.

[BobMcBob]

Current prediction

Maf: Bozo worcej + a townread like Bob or HamB
3p: Maniac

Plea to Mafia: please nk Maniac
Plea to doc: please do not save Maniac
If Maniac does not die he is nailed as 3p

youre kidding yourself
in what world does this work?
making deals with the mafia with no direct benefit to them
fwiw, i have at least seen damo make deals before as town when i was alien
that could be whats happening here

[Jamiet99uk]

Can we just get Jamie?

Even if you think I'm wrong, you should see the obvious benefit to getting me out of my tunnel.

this is another garbage post

I mean I have to agree with Bob here.

"Please kill this person even if you think he is town, just so that I can start thinking clearly" is a pretty bad reason.

At best it implies that town!Ghug with a clear head and a sober disposition is such a valuable asset to town that it is worth slaughtering other townies just to help Ghug achieve that state.

[BobMcBob]

This is a fair comment from Bozo, although I note the interesting assumption that Macca is not the third party

that was very mean jamie
although also rather amusing

I was trying to be the opposite of mean, by being respectful of Macca's chosen pronouns and gently alerting Bozo to the fact that he had (probably without realising) made a gendered assumption which excluded Macca.

oh i definitely interpreted that joke the mean way, my bad

[damo666]

My 3p pool is rdr worcej Maniac Bob Macca snowy.

I'd be absolutely flabbergasted if the 3p is outside this pool.

whys that damo?
bad logic and a copious amount of assumptions?

No

[Jamiet99uk]

But then, Ghug has always had a very high opinion of himself, so maybe that's really what he thinks.

@Ghug: Which other townies should we kill to aid your thought process?