M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

If we mk someone else and these 2 are both town we could lose 4 town by EON.

If we mk one of these at least we save a town modkill.

But then we miss the opportunity of multiple scum deaths.

Maybe your right. I dunno. I'm confused now.

I just wish I had a proper scumread to vote for.

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We made a technical error in a previous game hoping for Macca to be modkilled when Macca was in fact lurking scum. Better not to base our decisions on a hypothetical modkill as this thinking could be abused by scum.

I don't like it because I agree with it. I think it exposes a townie mindset.

[ghug]

@Ghug: I have answered your question though. Do you now agree that I have done so?

No.

There is no way that you believe you have answered my question.

I have asked you six times in various ways to explain why you, when faced with me and snowy discussing your scumminess, responded only to Snowy's points and not mine.

Please stop trolling me. I suppose you could answer the question as well, but that's not even important at this point.

[Kakarroto]

Maniac – Gets more and more handsome
Macca573 – even though he hasn’t done much is probably my top town read. Town can have the thought process of ‘I suspect x’, something happens ‘that must be x as scum doing it’. Scum are more likely to not make that false connection and just try to get easy targets DK’d.
snowy801 – has written a lot and made useful contributions. Seems to be genuinely scum hunting
Vecna – he says no one will suspect him of being scum this game, and I believe him.
BobMcBob – someone else who appears to be trying to find scum.
Hamilton Brian – floundering a little, but that’s more indicative of uncertain Town than scum play.
Ghug – having re-read ghug his chicken claim was clearly a joke and his interactions with Jamie more honest than I originally thought. The theatre seems more on Jamie’s side.
damo666 – seems to be relaxed and having fun rather than really scum hunting, claims role block and also town slips saying only JOAT had a roleblock. Actually maybe Damo should be further up my list.
rdrivera2005 – not contributed much, but that is his usual playstyle, hopefully will come good later.
Foodcoats – fairly null.
Bozotheclown – I thought Bozo was missing D2 but when isolating they actually post more than I do. Clearly none of it is memorable when I read the thread, is that him blending in? I did think he was a bit paranoid D1 and that maybe that was scum indicative, but now I’m not sure.
Kakarroto – Was null but I think Snowy raises some good questions about them, so they could be scum.
Lfischl – just doesn’t post enough and low posters can coast when they draw scum.
Worcej – usually far more engaged, he says he is otherwise engaged. He’d have to do a lot more for me to raise him up my list.
Jamiet99uk – I feel good about voting for Jamie. He was too nice to me D1 and the stuff with Ghug just doesn’t sit right with me. Ghug was clearly joking about the chicken. I don’t believe town Jamie would be unaware that 3P has night immunity and his fake lack of knowledge makes me wonder if scum!Jamie would absolutely be aware and this is him trying too hard to appear town.
Bonatogether – deceased D1, ?Fruit vendor
Celaph – deceased N1

alright, seems like I posted too early. Sorry that happens when catching up. Not thrilled about the reason but fair, I guess.

[damo666]

going back

##vote lfischl

[Jamiet99uk]

@Ghug: I have answered your question though. Do you now agree that I have done so?

No.

There is no way that you believe you have answered my question.

I have asked you six times in various ways to explain why you, when faced with me and snowy discussing your scumminess, responded only to Snowy's points and not mine.

Please stop trolling me. I suppose you could answer the question as well, but that's not even important at this point.

I've repeatedly responded to you!!

This idea that I've replied to Snowy whilst deliberately ignoring you is absolute madness, Ghug.

Stop it.

[snowy801]

Then again, fish being modkilled means we get brainbomb.

...we could just kill him

[Jamiet99uk]

Then again, fish being modkilled means we get brainbomb.

...we could just kill him

Ohh, that's a little mean, come on.

Brainbomb is an outstanding member of the community.

[Jamiet99uk]

going back

##vote lfischl

Aw man, we had such a nice Bozo wagon.

[Kakarroto]

It really wouldnt surprise me one bit if we have 2-3 scum in the group of Snowy/Ghug/Jamiet/Bozo/Damo actually.

It also wouldnt surprise me if theres 1-2 of em in the group of food/kaka/lfisch.

Theres this weird dance going on where it appears that the first group is trying to find a wagon that is not in that first group. Its sort of odd.

maybe people are just considerate for others that have not much time?

... naahh, this is a mafia game, I can see your point.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Kak
@Bob
@Bozo
@Snowy
@Foods

You are all spread out on solo wagons that are not going anywhere. Consider moving your vote to Bozo (who is in second place with 3 votes) or LfischL (who is in third place with 2)?

Or if you truly think your vote is in the best place, convince us as to why we should join you. Make the case.

Push or move.

@Lfischl - care to participate? I will vote you if you don't.

[snowy801]

I've repeatedly responded to you!!

This idea that I've replied to Snowy whilst deliberately ignoring you is absolute madness, Ghug.

Stop it.

I'm not going to lie Jamiet, as (again, a 3P who thinks he understood both sides) if you had a precise answer for the exact question ghug asked then I have not seen it.

Oh also speaking of questions unanswered, (I was going to answer earlier but sort of hesitated because I figured it wasn't the best time when I was top wagon and may backfire) I voted Bob because he was the town's highest collective townread, I had no idea where to go start of D2 and figured this might jimmy some rustles

Like I told Brian, not a big deal, but such as it is. Probably became way larger of a deal than it needed to be

[foodcoats]

@Kak
@Bob
@Bozo
@Snowy
@Foods

You are all spread out on solo wagons that are not going anywhere. Consider moving your vote to Bozo (who is in second place with 3 votes) or LfischL (who is in third place with 2)?

Or if you truly think your vote is in the best place, convince us as to why we should join you. Make the case.

Push or move.

@Lfischl - care to participate? I will vote you if you don't.

Alright.

##VOTE lfischl

Bozo is a terrible, terrible wagon.

[snowy801]

@Kak
@Bob
@Bozo
@Snowy
@Foods

You are all spread out on solo wagons that are not going anywhere. Consider moving your vote to Bozo (who is in second place with 3 votes) or LfischL (who is in third place with 2)?

Or if you truly think your vote is in the best place, convince us as to why we should join you. Make the case.

Push or move.

@Lfischl - care to participate? I will vote you if you don't.

There's plenty of time. The conceit that the solo wagons aren't going anywhere is ludicrous, and I scorn you for it. Really, what a sad, pathetic claim to make about this community.

I stated I'm willing to conditionally vote fish. I am voting my best place, and made my case. Others indicated willingness to join.

[snowy801]

Then again, fish being modkilled means we get brainbomb.

...we could just kill him

Ohh, that's a little mean, come on.

Brainbomb is an outstanding member of the community.

Oh, perhaps mean spirited. I saw him in the reader list, that's why I said it.

[Jamiet99uk]

I've repeatedly responded to you!!

This idea that I've replied to Snowy whilst deliberately ignoring you is absolute madness, Ghug.

Stop it.

I'm not going to lie Jamiet, as (again, a 3P who thinks he understood both sides) if you had a precise answer for the exact question ghug asked then I have not seen it.

As I understand it his question was "why did you ignore me and only respond to Snowy?"

I've responded to him repeatedly so I reject the premise of the question. It's like one of those "have you stopped beating your wife?" type of questions designed to trap the person being asked.

If you, Snowy, can identify a genuine, serious question that Ghug has asked me, and which I have totally failed to address, please could you re-state it for me so that we can close off this whole nonsense and move on? You'd be doing me a favour.

[Vecna]

@Vecna:

It would be nice if you could give me a reply regarding Bozo, thanks.

I did, didnt I?

I was typing one out, so it should be there. Unless my brainfog made me not post it somehow.

[Jamiet99uk]

There's plenty of time. The conceit that the solo wagons aren't going anywhere is ludicrous, and I scorn you for it. Really, what a sad, pathetic claim to make about this community.

Hyperbole much?

Calm down.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Vecna:

It would be nice if you could give me a reply regarding Bozo, thanks.

I did, didnt I?

I was typing one out, so it should be there. Unless my brainfog made me not post it somehow.

I did not see it, unless it was that one post where you didn't quote a question and rambled about some person or other but where it was unclear who you meant.

Was that about Bozo? (Because if so you managed to not mention Bozo at all during the whole post).

[ghug]

@Ghug: I have answered your question though. Do you now agree that I have done so?

No.

There is no way that you believe you have answered my question.

I have asked you six times in various ways to explain why you, when faced with me and snowy discussing your scumminess, responded only to Snowy's points and not mine.

Please stop trolling me. I suppose you could answer the question as well, but that's not even important at this point.

I've repeatedly responded to you!!

This idea that I've replied to Snowy whilst deliberately ignoring you is absolute madness, Ghug.

Stop it.

You're responding to me now. I'm not denying that. When I first asked the question, you hadn't at all, and even once you started, it was like pulling teeth. It took several rounds of back and forth to get you to answer that first question, and then you never answered the second one posed at the same time. I wanted to know why you didn't respond to my initial case on you at the time when snowy made an independent argument for your scumminess and you responded to that one.

[ghug]

Then again, fish being modkilled means we get brainbomb.

...we could just kill him

Ohh, that's a little mean, come on.

Brainbomb is an outstanding member of the community.

He certainly stands out.

(Love you brain)