M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

Guys I don't think bozo is scum

##vote worcej

[snowy801]

Is it just me or does the Vote Tracker in the bot look weird today?

Like all the spacing is different from the way it usually is.

lfischl is sort of making it look weird with their super thin abbreviation letters, but otherwise fine

[ghug]

@ghug - can you point me at when Jamie softs that he has chicken? The thought progression you present makes sense, contingent on this.

I'm not Ghug but I can answer this.

The point was that I outright called Ghug a liar but didn't immediately say what ghug had lied about.

However, Ghug had only really made one specific, verifiably/falsifiable statement (that is, which item he had) so it might have been inferred that this was what I was talking about.

It isn’t uncommon for you to layer traps like this as scum, not going to lie

Yeah, to be clear I think his behavior D1 around it is largely NAI. Indicative only that he's Jamie and that he really has the item. It's today's reversal that's weird.

[ghug]

scum macca tends to be much more averse to massclaims
theyre also more hesitant than theyve seemed here, and tend to spend more time messing around
i would not expect them to be quite so stubborn about your chicken claim either

How many times has Macca been scum?

Many.

In fact, for a statistics man yourself, the right choice is always to D1 me. You've got more then a 50% chance of being right. (not including this game, I haven't added that all up yet; but this rule held last game.)

This is not how math works.

Are you damo?

[snowy801]

How many times has Macca been scum?

Many.

In fact, for a statistics man yourself, the right choice is always to D1 me. You've got more then a 50% chance of being right. (not including this game, I haven't added that all up yet; but this rule held last game.)

This is not how math works.

Are you damo?

apriori if you did not know what the probability of an event is, you can only surmise based on observation

In such a scenario, Macca's math would in fact be correct

Alas, we all know that the GMs are corrupt and take under the table money for role cards

[snowy801]

And yes, I did mean to say posteriori

[Kakarroto]

My best guess is he noticed he's kept putting his foot in his mouth and is deliberately invoking his cantankerous image to avoid digging a deeper hole, whilst simultaneously trying not to appear like he's running away.

But hey, scene change:

Anyone have any opinions on that Kakarroto guy? How about you, Maniac? Welcome to the game.

Kakarroto is interesting. He voted for me for allegedly responding to their post, and has not moved off me since. No thought development or even checking why they originally voted for me. It's quite odd, but not sure if it's alignment indicative. I do like their humour. It is ironic that he calls out lfischl and Macca for being lurkers when he has so few posts.

not untrue but there is a difference between lurking and not being here, and I just want to point out, that I gave everyone the information and a chance to tell me that I shouldn't participate in the sign up (actual) thread.

##GM Note: the bot appears to be working, but I'm not sure if everyone has been able to keep track of the thread. I'll be sending a PM to everyone in a bit to address this.

I think whatever you did borked the pm's. Other than the reminder I have to post from you (which I just saw) my last pm before is from M66 ...

[Jamiet99uk]

Is it just me or does the Vote Tracker in the bot look weird today?

Like all the spacing is different from the way it usually is.

It was that way D1 as well, but now D1 looks normal.

How strange.

[foodcoats]

##VOTE ghug

In my recent experience playing with ghug, he did not crumb when he was a PR (Journalist) but did claim and retract when he was Jester. I think fakeclaiming at the outset is anti-town and I think ghug chose to wheel around the issue in a strange way when questioned by Jamie; I think town who joked would not speak in hypotheticals as ghug did but say, simply, “It was a joke,” and be done with it.

I have not gotten any scum vibes from Jamie and I don’t think most scum would counterclaim if they have the actual chicken.

Therefore I believe Jamie more likely town and ghug non town aligned.

[Jamiet99uk]

Guys I don't think bozo is scum

##vote worcej

Why is that?

[ghug]

lack of welfare
awful leave laws

guys.... it didn't have to get this dark.... we could have just made silly jokes about spelling......

Vietnam. Iraq. Afghanistan. Iraq 2.0.

Sorry to disappoint you, but none of those are part of America.

[Hamilton Brian]

I suppose it's a dumb question but does anyone but me think these two top wagons are TvT?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not Ghug but I can answer this.

The point was that I outright called Ghug a liar but didn't immediately say what ghug had lied about.

However, Ghug had only really made one specific, verifiably/falsifiable statement (that is, which item he had) so it might have been inferred that this was what I was talking about.

It isn’t uncommon for you to layer traps like this as scum, not going to lie

Yeah, to be clear I think his behavior D1 around it is largely NAI. Indicative only that he's Jamie and that he really has the item. It's today's reversal that's weird.

"Reversal" ?

What reversal?

I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

[snowy801]

I suppose it's a dumb question but does anyone but me think these two top wagons are TvT?

I mean I sort of do
Not sold on Jamiet but eh, wouldn't kill

[ghug]

I just got GM confirmation that I was mistaken, and simply "adding" food is sufficient to make use of it (as Macca just said)

i feel like this pretty well confirms that macca did not use an item last night
in case anybody was still undecided

Wait, wasn't snowy the one asking townies to always put their GM calls in the thread?

[Jamiet99uk]

Alas, we all know that the GMs are corrupt and take under the table money for role cards

Please do not make cheating allegations on the forum

/s

[snowy801]

Guys I don't think bozo is scum

##vote worcej

Why is that?

He's consistent in his ideas and accusations, yet remains open to change, and also considers people's motives regarding actions from what I see as a town perspective

[ghug]

As fish and carrot are in danger of being modkilled perhaps we should dk one of them.

How does that make any sense? We'd want to not kill them if we expected that

If we mk someone else and these 2 are both town we could lose 4 town by EON.

If we mk one of these at least we save a town modkill.

But then we miss the opportunity of multiple scum deaths.

Maybe your right. I dunno. I'm confused now.

I just wish I had a proper scumread to vote for.

Like this post

[foodcoats]

I suppose it's a dumb question but does anyone but me think these two top wagons are TvT?

I think this as well. Bozo I strongly townread, Jamie to a lesser degree but I think it is more likely he is town with chicken than scum or 3P with chicken.

[bozotheclown]

Macca may be scum even if Jamie is town. His vote for me looked like he was fabricating a reason to vote for one of the top wagons before leaving for the day. I don't like that he could not remember who he agreed with.

##VOTE Macca

Like Bob, I am probably on my way out soon.

The snowy wagon just melted away, again.

As much as I dislike Jamie personally, I actually don't mind what he's doing this game, I do not think we should off him just yet.

For my own personal safety, I can not use a "kill lurkers" mindset, I really don't have any other reason to scrumread lfi.

Bozo. I did agree with the massclaim idea (but I am very gullible, so nai), but I remember reading something that someone (probably Jamie or Vecna, perhaps worcej) posted while I was silenced, that I began to agree with surrounding him.

So, as much as I would love to finish the job on snowy, I will ##VOTE bozo for now.