M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Kak's last post was on page 46. Hmm.

[rdrivera2005]

@ghug @Maniac @rdr

If you think lfischl would be a mk you should move off Jamie. With 3 votes n Jamie he is almost forced into voting lfischl.

There is much time before EOD and honestly lfischl isn't a bad choice (it's a coin flip, but that slot will need to be sorted somehow).

[snowy801]

@ghug @Maniac @rdr

If you think lfischl would be a mk you should move off Jamie. With 3 votes n Jamie he is almost forced into voting lfischl.

There is much time before EOD and honestly lfischl isn't a bad choice (it's a coin flip, but that slot will need to be sorted somehow).

I was thinking we just shoot him d3 when the cop outs

[damo666]

As fish and carrot are in danger of being modkilled perhaps we should dk one of them.

[BobMcBob]

I feel like I need to be sheeping Vecna until I drop dead or I am sufficiently upset to find them playing as mafia. Which I don’t think they are. I remember a recent game when you asked something to the effect of, “why am I so bad at this!”

All of us going forward knowing how bad we are at this might help us.

Let’s put the egos away, be respectful, answer questions directly without the logic puzzles, and get it done!

i kinda hate this post (and the previous one like it) which is a pretty good sign were dealing with town!hb here
yes that really is one of my metrics

Huh? Bob, that’s so weird. Hating my posts towns me?

based off past experiences trying to read you when you were town, yes
i mean there was a little more to it there, but it gave me those kinds of vibes

[snowy801]

As fish and carrot are in danger of being modkilled perhaps we should dk one of them.

How does that make any sense? We'd want to not kill them if we expected that

[damo666]

I'm not. As I previously said I think the silencing is nai and to me Macca is a null. I just think a Macca kill is preferable to rdr (EV as food would say).

garbage logic
macca likely town
same with rdr actually
neither should be on the block today
maybe someone actually scummy like yourself?

I like this Bob post. Not only because of defending me (thank you), but also calling Damo's willingness to start any wagon.

Oi! I'm am not willing to start any wagon. You malign me sir.

[snowy801]

I want to state that I am extremely skeptical of any attempts to kill people who are not expected to be around EoD. It does not give cop/doc/commute a chance to claim, and though chances are low I did regret sending off Bona when he wasn't around.

I do expect fish to show his face eventually, but this damo talk is extremely illogical and anti-town

[Hamilton Brian]

As fish and carrot are in danger of being modkilled perhaps we should dk one of them.

How does that make any sense? We'd want to not kill them if we expected that

I’m never a fan of someone subbing in. I’d rather know the alignment as opposed to having to deal with a new personality and in unknown alignment.

[Jamiet99uk]

Kakkaroto is online and not posting.

[TheMadMonarch]

Like Bob, I am probably on my way out soon.

The snowy wagon just melted away, again.

As much as I dislike Jamie personally, I actually don't mind what he's doing this game, I do not think we should off him just yet.

For my own personal safety, I can not use a "kill lurkers" mindset, I really don't have any other reason to scrumread lfi.

Bozo. I did agree with the massclaim idea (but I am very gullible, so nai), but I remember reading something that someone (probably Jamie or Vecna, perhaps worcej) posted while I was silenced, that I began to agree with surrounding him.

So, as much as I would love to finish the job on snowy, I will ##VOTE bozo for now.

[TheMadMonarch]

Kakkaroto is online and not posting.

could be backreading? or writing up one of his cool posts?

[damo666]

As fish and carrot are in danger of being modkilled perhaps we should dk one of them.

How does that make any sense? We'd want to not kill them if we expected that

If we mk someone else and these 2 are both town we could lose 4 town by EON.

If we mk one of these at least we save a town modkill.

But then we miss the opportunity of multiple scum deaths.

Maybe your right. I dunno. I'm confused now.

I just wish I had a proper scumread to vote for.

[BobMcBob]

okay, read up and +1d
im probably gonna tap out now, but some more thoughts before i go
damo is my preferred kill
im gonna sit here and hopefully allow the wagon to remain viable
however id also be happy to see a flip on lfischl, bozo or jamie when i wake up
i would be extremely annoyed to see a vecna or macca flip
hb also seems like a bad plan
food and kak kinda lie in that null area where i dont really think they have much reason to be around, but there are better people to go after
unlisted people are not particularly relevant to flip discussions today imo

[TheMadMonarch]

As fish and carrot are in danger of being modkilled perhaps we should dk one of them.

How does that make any sense? We'd want to not kill them if we expected that

If we mk someone else and these 2 are both town we could lose 4 town by EON.

If we mk one of these at least we save a town modkill.

But then we miss the opportunity of multiple scum deaths.

Maybe your right. I dunno. I'm confused now.

I just wish I had a proper scumread to vote for.

You could always vote for my scumreada, Snowy? I'll be happy to swap back if you do.

[Hamilton Brian]

I want to state that I am extremely skeptical of any attempts to kill people who are not expected to be around EoD. It does not give cop/doc/commute a chance to claim, and though chances are low I did regret sending off Bona when he wasn't around.

I do expect fish to show his face eventually, but this damo talk is extremely illogical and anti-town

Yet here you are on Kak, and I don’t remember what you’ve said on them. I’ll go back to see but what difference might there be?

They’re in Germany, right? Would have expected some posts earlier so that is concerning.

[Kakarroto]

jamies item claim thing/ghug 'lying'+roleblock: informing you were rb'ed is always pro-town, lying about that of course not. Do I believe ghug about it? I'd say cautionly yes, for now. About the chicken incident, given it was at the start of the game I'd thought it was merely a joke, jamie that focussing on it ... hrmm ... not too keen on that, it makes at least some sense so I'll put that as NAI. Though maybe jamie is also lying about having the chicken?

Well if Jamie has a chicken and ghug's full of something I do somewhat see how certain parts of his behavior may have arose.

I think it's a bit of a stretch, personally, but it's possible. Certain discussions did seem to imply that ghug lives meat free, not sure if I'm reading that right, which would also tend towards ghug's counter-explanation.

It's something to think about I suppose, but mostly in what it says about the individuals than because I care about the 3P right now. 3P discussion is mostly noise and distraction at this point, methinks.

- that made me think if ghug is maybe fishing for items? are there other instances of it? Why would he do that as town? Or is he just trying to throw of bad guys? Though it also was at the joke phase, I think, so maybe that's just that.

ghugs answer to this all seems pretty good though and jamie looks quite bad in there

@Kakarroto

Can you explain more what you mean about Maniac here?

Is there anyone you would say you scumread?

- at the end it was tied and then suddenly people went to bona and ended his game. It felt as if maniac was getting saved, maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I got out of that situation. Also I didn't like most of maniac's post, especially after one very good looking post, that felt like 'put effort into something than rest/chill' kind of thing, making me think he's just trying to stay off radar. Other than that, jamie right now doesn't look good with the ghug thing, I'd put him down a notch on my list, and the lurkers. Though I have many pages to go through right now, so it's subject to change.

@Kakarroto

To be more specific, looking at your list, it seems like you scumread Maniac, Jamie and snowy. They aren’t in that order, though… you’ve placed lurkers so as to be more likely scum than Jamie and snowy with whom you think something is “wrong.”

Can you elaborate on those three players in particular - Maniac, Jamie and snowy?

- hm, snowy ... come to think about it, I can't put a finger on it, I know I have a bad feeling about him, but maybe it's because of what others I townread think of him and their exchange. I'll need to have a look at that, when I have more time.

[Jamiet99uk]

Though maybe jamie is also lying about having the chicken?

I am not, and this will be verified at the end of the current phase because I am using my second vote.

[damo666]

okay, read up and +1d
im probably gonna tap out now, but some more thoughts before i go
damo is my preferred kill
im gonna sit here and hopefully allow the wagon to remain viable
however id also be happy to see a flip on lfischl, bozo or jamie when i wake up
i would be extremely annoyed to see a vecna or macca flip
hb also seems like a bad plan
food and kak kinda lie in that null area where i dont really think they have much reason to be around, but there are better people to go after
unlisted people are not particularly relevant to flip discussions today imo

Why am I your preferred kill? Have you forgotten my RB claim?

[Jamiet99uk]

okay, read up and +1d
im probably gonna tap out now, but some more thoughts before i go
damo is my preferred kill
im gonna sit here and hopefully allow the wagon to remain viable
however id also be happy to see a flip on lfischl, bozo or jamie when i wake up
i would be extremely annoyed to see a vecna or macca flip
hb also seems like a bad plan
food and kak kinda lie in that null area where i dont really think they have much reason to be around, but there are better people to go after
unlisted people are not particularly relevant to flip discussions today imo

Why am I your preferred kill? Have you forgotten my RB claim?

You could have been roleblocked by town.