M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[Hamilton Brian]

Macca, can I infer that you might have something to report based on your item use?

[snowy801]

I'd be willing to DK Lfischl, who has contributed very little, or Rdrivera, who is little better.

Why those two, and not Kaka who's in between them in post counts?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'd be willing to DK Lfischl, who has contributed very little, or Rdrivera, who is little better.

Why those two, and not Kaka who's in between them in post counts?

I would have said, Kakkarotto posts infrequently but when he posts, there's a lot more substance than, say, with Lfischl.

Having said that, Kak has only posted three times today. One of those was a full reads list but it's been a long time since Kak posted at all.

@Kakk: Where you do be at?

[snowy801]

I would have said, Kakkarotto posts infrequently but when he posts, there's a lot more substance than, say, with Lfischl.

Having said that, Kak has only posted three times today. One of those was a full reads list but it's been a long time since Kak posted at all.

@Kakk: Where you do be at?

Surely then you would agree that rdrivera has posted equivalent amounts of content to Kakarroto. Do you find rdrivera's posts insubstantial? How do you read him in general based on what he said, setting aside "he hasn't done much" as best you can?

[Jamiet99uk]

I would have said, Kakkarotto posts infrequently but when he posts, there's a lot more substance than, say, with Lfischl.

Having said that, Kak has only posted three times today. One of those was a full reads list but it's been a long time since Kak posted at all.

@Kakk: Where you do be at?

Surely then you would agree that rdrivera has posted equivalent amounts of content to Kakarroto. Do you find rdrivera's posts insubstantial? How do you read him in general based on what he said, setting aside "he hasn't done much" as best you can?

Kak's opening script on D1 was more entertaining than anything Rdrivera has posted.

As I recall without specifically going back and re-reading, most of Rdrivera's posts over the last two phases have been OMGUS-ing at me or talking about my interactions with Ghug. I seem to recall he also gave reads on Hamilton and Damo but that they were not fully explained.

[damo666]

Fwiw my willingness to dk 'lurkers' is

lfischl > karrotcake >>> rdr

[snowy801]

Fwiw my willingness to dk 'lurkers' is

lfischl > karrotcake >>> rdr

lfischl has been pretty egregious. I wonder if it may not be too egregious, and though that may be the point that seems like a highly risky strategy given, well, what's happening. By contrast kaka and rdr both have made cursory attempts to make it appear as though they're trying without actually doing so, which is what I'd expecting lurking scum to do.

Let's see if lfischl (can we just call him fish or something) has anything to say I suppose.

[Hamilton Brian]

Sucks when that "kill the lurkers" becomes the narrative but I don't see any way around it. I'd suggest we need a competitive counterwagon but I do not believe jamie should be that wagon.

[Hamilton Brian]

Just looking at Rivera's posts; remember on D1 he called ghug out at 8 minutes for putting Bona into the lead by voting for me. Then looking at the movement away from Maniac. Someome mentioned it but I didn't give it too much thought but does it not have the appearance of Maniac being saved?

[snowy801]

Sucks when that "kill the lurkers" becomes the narrative but I don't see any way around it. I'd suggest we need a competitive counterwagon but I do not believe jamie should be that wagon.

I mean I kind of echo damo's post with 0 scum reads, scum reads have been hard to come by this game, and then this is what happens.

As for the Maniac thing, I mentioned this earlier but the movement away is timestamped at literal last second. Nobody moved "off" Maniac, just onto Bona, and as I was the one who made the final determination you'd have to directly accuse me of saving (which I guess you could), but I repeat that I don't see the mass motion onto Bona as particularly suspicious

Two caveats: one, okay chance 3P is on the final 3 just to claim the item but not anything concrete
two, as someone (forget who) said, it is an ordinary thing for scum to not make the save, but "confirm" the save with votes like that just so there's no last minute crazy upsets that flips over a scum Maniac

[Maniac]

Just looking at Rivera's posts; remember on D1 he called ghug out at 8 minutes for putting Bona into the lead by voting for me. Then looking at the movement away from Maniac. Someome mentioned it but I didn't give it too much thought but does it not have the appearance of Maniac being saved?

There wasn't a movement away from me. The only person who voted for me during the day that didn't end up on me was Ghug. That's hardly 'a movement away from Maniac'.

The late voters on Bona are snowy (whom I town read), Ghug (Who I town read) Celaph (Town) and Maniac (scum!Me and Town!Me make the same move). I don't see how you can seriously think I'm being saved D1.

[damo666]

Fwiw my willingness to dk 'lurkers' is

lfischl > karrotcake >>> rdr

lfischl has been pretty egregious. I wonder if it may not be too egregious, and though that may be the point that seems like a highly risky strategy given, well, what's happening. By contrast kaka and rdr both have made cursory attempts to make it appear as though they're trying without actually doing so, which is what I'd expecting lurking scum to do.

Let's see if lfischl (can we just call him fish or something) has anything to say I suppose.

I see your point. If lfischl comes out with something townlike I'd happily switch to kak. I would rather kill Macca or even Bozo than rdr though.

[damo666]

Sucks when that "kill the lurkers" becomes the narrative but I don't see any way around it. I'd suggest we need a competitive counterwagon but I do not believe jamie should be that wagon.

I agree that Jamie is the wrong cw.

[Jamiet99uk]

lfischl has been pretty egregious. I wonder if it may not be too egregious, and though that may be the point that seems like a highly risky strategy given, well, what's happening. By contrast kaka and rdr both have made cursory attempts to make it appear as though they're trying without actually doing so, which is what I'd expect lurking scum to do.

Let's see if lfischl (can we just call him Lord Fitzsimmons or something) has anything to say I suppose.

I see your point. If lfischl comes out with something townlike I'd happily switch to kak. I would rather kill Macca or even Bozo than rdr though.

Why do you scumread Macca now?

[Jamiet99uk]

Sucks when that "kill the lurkers" becomes the narrative but I don't see any way around it. I'd suggest we need a competitive counterwagon but I do not believe jamie should be that wagon.

I agree that Jamie is the wrong cw.

I also agree with that.

[damo666]

Sucks when that "kill the lurkers" becomes the narrative but I don't see any way around it. I'd suggest we need a competitive counterwagon but I do not believe jamie should be that wagon.

I mean I kind of echo damo's post with 0 scum reads, scum reads have been hard to come by this game, and then this is what happens.

As for the Maniac thing, I mentioned this earlier but the movement away is timestamped at literal last second. Nobody moved "off" Maniac, just onto Bona, and as I was the one who made the final determination you'd have to directly accuse me of saving (which I guess you could), but I repeat that I don't see the mass motion onto Bona as particularly suspicious

Two caveats: one, okay chance 3P is on the final 3 just to claim the item but not anything concrete
two, as someone (forget who) said, it is an ordinary thing for scum to not make the save, but "confirm" the save with votes like that just so there's no last minute crazy upsets that flips over a scum Maniac

The lack of scumreads probably indicates a couple of experienced scum who can look towny, Vecna springs to mind. (Sorry Vecna, it's a compliment really).

[damo666]

lfischl has been pretty egregious. I wonder if it may not be too egregious, and though that may be the point that seems like a highly risky strategy given, well, what's happening. By contrast kaka and rdr both have made cursory attempts to make it appear as though they're trying without actually doing so, which is what I'd expect lurking scum to do.

Let's see if lfischl (can we just call him Lord Fitzsimmons or something) has anything to say I suppose.

I see your point. If lfischl comes out with something townlike I'd happily switch to kak. I would rather kill Macca or even Bozo than rdr though.

Why do you scumread Macca now?

I'm not. As I previously said I think the silencing is nai and to me Macca is a null. I just think a Macca kill is preferable to rdr (EV as food would say).

[BobMcBob]

aaaaand im done
back in 15 minutes to start reading again
you will be hearing much more from me before tomorrow, dont worry
or do, your choice

[BobMcBob]

I see your point. If lfischl comes out with something townlike I'd happily switch to kak. I would rather kill Macca or even Bozo than rdr though.

Why do you scumread Macca now?

I'm not. As I previously said I think the silencing is nai and to me Macca is a null. I just think a Macca kill is preferable to rdr (EV as food would say).

garbage logic
macca likely town
same with rdr actually
neither should be on the block today
maybe someone actually scummy like yourself?

[damo666]

@ghug @Maniac @rdr

If you think lfischl would be a mk you should move off Jamie. With 3 votes n Jamie he is almost forced into voting lfischl.