There are 6 items the mafia can't start with. The advantages of claiming early are narrowing the scum pool and preventing mafia from making fake claims later. There are also obvious disadvantages.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:20 amwhy would we want to claim itemsbozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:19 amIf the town does not lose if the 3P wins, there is less risk in the town mass claiming items, but the town needs to eliminate the 3P to win.
Mass claiming items helps catch the 3P because there are only 10 items the 3P can be holding.
M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]
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Knowing that town does not lose with 3P win (as far as I can tell), would you still say you are still in advocacy of revealing every item town has for the marginal gain of eliminating a handful of players from the 3P pool?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:19 amIf the town does not lose if the 3P wins, there is less risk in the town mass claiming items, but the town needs to eliminate the 3P to win.snowy801 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:13 amHow does catching the 3P advantage town? Game rule states nothing about town losing when 3P wins, so far as I could tell.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:09 amI changed my mind, I think it would be advantageous for town to mass claim items, because I think we would have a high probability of catching the 3P before he gets his required items. However, I am confident that it would be impossible to get a consensus on this.
If I missed something, please elaborate on how mass claims helps us catch 3P, as I am stupid and do not understand.
Mass claiming items helps catch the 3P because there are only 10 items the 3P can be holding.
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Not for that reason, but the mafia can only hold 11 of the 17 items, so it eliminates 6 players from the mafia pool and prevents a mafia from surviving the DK at EOD by claiming one of these 6 items.snowy801 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:26 amKnowing that town does not lose with 3P win (as far as I can tell), would you still say you are still in advocacy of revealing every item town has for the marginal gain of eliminating a handful of players from the 3P pool?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:19 amIf the town does not lose if the 3P wins, there is less risk in the town mass claiming items, but the town needs to eliminate the 3P to win.
Mass claiming items helps catch the 3P because there are only 10 items the 3P can be holding.
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1) lessening the POE might be useful if items aren't revealed on flip. we could try to get people to claim items 5 minutes before EoD if they're on the blockbozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:34 amNot for that reason, but the mafia can only hold 11 of the 17 items, so it eliminates 6 players from the mafia pool and prevents a mafia from surviving the DK at EOD by claiming one of these 6 items.snowy801 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:26 amKnowing that town does not lose with 3P win (as far as I can tell), would you still say you are still in advocacy of revealing every item town has for the marginal gain of eliminating a handful of players from the 3P pool?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:19 am
If the town does not lose if the 3P wins, there is less risk in the town mass claiming items, but the town needs to eliminate the 3P to win.
Mass claiming items helps catch the 3P because there are only 10 items the 3P can be holding.
2) ever heard of a counterclaim
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I assume the items are not revealed because they stay in the game.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:41 am1) lessening the POE might be useful if items aren't revealed on flip. we could try to get people to claim items 5 minutes before EoD if they're on the blockbozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:34 amNot for that reason, but the mafia can only hold 11 of the 17 items, so it eliminates 6 players from the mafia pool and prevents a mafia from surviving the DK at EOD by claiming one of these 6 items.
2) ever heard of a counterclaim
Forcing everyone to claim their item early eliminates the risk of counterclaims, unless the mafia want to counterclaim town on D1.
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@gm are any items held on flip revealed?bozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:46 amI assume the items are not revealed because they stay in the game.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:41 am1) lessening the POE might be useful if items aren't revealed on flip. we could try to get people to claim items 5 minutes before EoD if they're on the blockbozotheclown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:34 am
Not for that reason, but the mafia can only hold 11 of the 17 items, so it eliminates 6 players from the mafia pool and prevents a mafia from surviving the DK at EOD by claiming one of these 6 items.
2) ever heard of a counterclaim
Forcing everyone to claim their item early eliminates the risk of counterclaims, unless the mafia want to counterclaim town on D1.
forcing everyone to claim their item gives scum all that info to choose kills off of.
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Man, I am just not feeling it right now. No offense to ya'll. This'll probably be my last mafia game until whatever we might get for a winter break. So...I have really just skimmed the thread. Not picking up much out of the ordinary Day 1 features. I think once I get my document started and check stuff out of the bot tonight/tomorrow, I'll be in a better frame of mind.
THought I would end this post with a relevant joke.
I ran to a Chipotle today.
THought I would end this post with a relevant joke.
I ran to a Chipotle today.
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Just on the outset feeling good about snowy, bozo, bona.
Just very gut and peripheral given how much time I've take to read. Don't expect a great elaboration as to why.
Just very gut and peripheral given how much time I've take to read. Don't expect a great elaboration as to why.
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ty, very coolHamilton Brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:59 amJust on the outset feeling good about snowy, bozo, bona.
Just very gut and peripheral given how much time I've take to read. Don't expect a great elaboration as to why.
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Actually I’ll sheep snowy instead
##VOTE Vecna
Baah baah
##VOTE Vecna
Baah baah
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Ghug wagon is too big
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Alrighty, Mafia time!
Firstly,
The last of my assessments are due this week, so expect lower activity, but it should go up.
Secondly,
Firstly,
The last of my assessments are due this week, so expect lower activity, but it should go up.
Secondly,
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oops... continue
That bozo-snowy interaction, very sus (not for bozo). ##vote snowy
I actually like bozo's idea, but I'll wait for a little more support before I participate.
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but every early d1 wagon dies (the larger, the faster), so by voting ghug you will therefore expedite the failure of the ghug wagon to actually kill ghug.
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why would you take advice from a bozo
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