The flip side here is that when a player misses a mechanical fact or a post with an important claim, it's on the experienced townies to make sure it's explained to them. We had an absent player who was probably town, and four non-town players trying to influence the vote, which meant it was always going to be razor tight. Johnny's proving himself to be stubborn—an unreasonable trait, but also one that probably puts him in the majority here—but he's also smart enough to understand when something is explained to him clearly, and it's not exactly like Vecna and damo were in a position to straight up lie to him (though I was).snowy801 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:00 pmThis is true, but you don't seem to grasp the point.Johnny Big Horse wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:50 pmBut the other players seem to get all angry because I do not follow the crowd in thinking style or vote. I suppose if I voted Snowy in the end, they wouldn't have been disgusted with me, because then even if I was thinking wrongly, I was at least in tune with the rest of the group.
At that point it was factually known that either myself and rdrivera, or bozo were scum. You definitively declared that we were both town, and you declined to vote for either.
This is wrong. This is fundamentally wrong on a level that nobody else in the game was, and you still reject this premise days after the game, when others have gone out of their way to explain it to you. You cannot liken your mistakes to be anywhere near equivalent to foodcoats' or HB's. This is like 10 billion to 1 ratio of scale of error.
So you must understand equally how frustrating it is trying to explain things inside the game to you.
Again, take some time to observe some games (it doesn't have to be here) and try again. Any mafia community will react the same, I wager, and any will be equally be willing to play with you again once you work out these issues.
Your approach to the claims was to act like the answer and the correct course of action were the most obvious things in the fucking world, which they were to experienced players, but it's your responsibility as the townie in a precarious situation to try to get Johnny to understand as much as it's his to be receptive to it.