M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

[Hamilton Brian]

All right, pardon my memory.

At the grocery store so this is going to be quite scattered. Rivera, as much as I am in favour of the chocolate kill why would it make sense for mafia Chaqa to kill or Amy gun at town Jamie?

[Johnny Big Horse]

I would vote Chaqa if you can get others to.

[worcej]

[snip...]

I like this post, but it didn't really tell me why HB has your vote.

Fair point. I agreed with ghug's reasons for being suspicious and added to them when I voted HB. That said, I was more confident then than I am now. HB has had some decent posts as of late. Thinking of jumping off.

The push on JBH is a very bad push, though I know that there is at least 1 town on it (Jamie being the top candidate). Particularly not a fan of the way that Damo reverted on him. Bigger concern is that there are a lot of people that I don't got a great read on. Chaqa's iso is lukewarm at best. Rdr's makes me want to lean town on him. ghug feels unusually inactive.

Can you explain your thought process behind voting Damo?

Damo strikes me as opportunistic - he was going after JBH very quickly without considering other alternatives and proceeded to then look closely at ghug and use that inspection to rule ghug out as an option today.

I think he wants JBH flipped now and has built the case to support that desire more than let the case and evidence flow naturally to reach that conclusion.

[worcej]

I would vote Chaqa if you can get others to.

Why exactly?

[rdrivera2005]

All right, pardon my memory.

At the grocery store so this is going to be quite scattered. Rivera, as much as I am in favour of the chocolate kill why would it make sense for mafia Chaqa to kill or Amy gun at town Jamie?

Why not? You are scum and claimed a gun N1, you need to shoot. Jamiet could be lucky town or scum.

[Chaqa]

My big reservation to switch over to Hamilton is that rivera is voting there.

If rivera is town, then the scumteam is like... what, Hamilton-worcej-EMC, I guess?

If we lose for not killing Johnny today, we probably were never going to win anyway, I guess.

##Vote Hamilton

This vote is so contrived and scummy that it makes me really want to change my vote.

Chaqa is scum. Eden was right. Can we wagon him?

##vote Chaqa

I no longer feel bad about voting Hamilton.

[Chaqa]

Scum are rousing an eleventh hour push on me so they don't have to waste a nightkill on me.

[Hamilton Brian]

Way to enable and justify the miss kill, Chaka.

With the likelihood of me dying today pretty good, I will post what would be considered my reads when I get back walking from the grocery store.

Talk about desperation.

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 3.7 (dammit)
Hamilton Brian: (3) ghug, celaph, Chaqa
Damo666: (3) Johnny Big Horse, Hamilton Brian, worcej
Johnny Big Horse: (2) damo666, Jamiet99uk
Ghug: (1) e.m.c^42
Chaqa: (1) rdrivera2005

[Chaqa]

Way to enable and justify the miss kill, Chaka.

With the likelihood of me dying today pretty good, I will post what would be considered my reads when I get back walking from the grocery store.

Talk about desperation.

Who do you think the scum team is, and why?

[Chaqa]

As briefly as possible.

[worcej]

As briefly as possible.

Why explicitly briefly?

[Chaqa]

As briefly as possible.

Why explicitly briefly?

Brevity is honesty.

[ghug]

If you're looking for a commitment then, let me latch the vote to what would be considered my strongest and probably most-researched scumread.

##Vote Damo

Okay, because I'm willing to ##vote damo

I'm highly weirded out by damo's latch onto anti-JBH from the moment go this phase and his lack of wanting to push ghug, who has similar questions about 'claiming' but yet gets a pass over JBH doesn't make much sense to me.

a) he spent much of the day not wanting to kill JBH
n) it's not the same. There's a scenario where we're at KILO if JBH is scum.

[e.m.c^42]

Late by half and so hour but here now.

[ghug]

My big reservation to switch over to Hamilton is that rivera is voting there.

If rivera is town, then the scumteam is like... what, Hamilton-worcej-EMC, I guess?

If we lose for not killing Johnny today, we probably were never going to win anyway, I guess.

##Vote Hamilton

Rivera likes to bus

[Vecna]

##GM NOTE
Official vote count 3.8

Hamilton Brian: (3) ghug, celaph, Chaqa
Damo666: (3) Johnny Big Horse, Hamilton Brian, worcej
Johnny Big Horse: (2) damo666, Jamiet99uk
Ghug: (1) e.m.c^42
Chaqa: (1) rdrivera2005

12 minutes remain

[ghug]

Late by half and so hour but here now.

You gonna cast a meaningful vote?

[Hamilton Brian]

I think scum team consists of celaph, chaqa, emc, ghug, worcej, damo.

Worcej I have warmed up to for both understanding the absence but then the posting since return, so I would strike them out.

Celaph, just not sure. My initial read of brain was "talking just to talk" and then going on and on about the pre-game claim. They made it more an issue of it than anyone talking to them about it. Assumed that was town.

Chaqa: bad gut the whole time. Claims to have a sense of the scumteam but has put together no cases.

ghug: most compelling/interesting thing they've put forth is that they thought chaqa was town for the gun claim. Weird; contrary to opinion. Again, flat.

Damo: my gut read led me down the rabbit hole yesterday. Only ghug and celaph (oh, and JBH) commented on it, but not to discuss the merits but to criticize it as "leading" and me not being me.

So maybe chaqa, ghug, damo? Maybe chaqa, damo, celaph? Or Chaqa, ghug celaph.

Those I didn't list I consider town.

Do with this what you will.

[e.m.c^42]

EMC, you dropped the vote on ghug and it seems that the only articulation for the case is gut-read. Is there a sniff of anything else that is substantial in terms of action or words?

Yes, listed 'em before, not much has changed from then so haven't restated.