M68: Guns N' Roses GAMETHREAD [hidden]

[Johnny Big Horse]

I think any scumteam capable of such a wild play probably also are able to see that most town will have a rose and not a gun. If town shoot himself N1 then scum could win N3, true, but it didn´t happen and I don´t see a scumteam base all his strategy on this happening.
It´s impossible? No. It´s likely? Also no. So we need to work with the more usual possibilities. Snowy will be NKes sooner or later, if he is alive at D4 we can go back to him.
This said, I am starting to get some bad vibes from Damo, so pushing this wagon could be interesting.
My main problem this game is that I have too many scumleans (emc, Johny, Damo, Worcej and Macca) and I am pretty sure I am missing someone.

diversion
deflection
and dismissal

the three d’s of a scumbo

Thank you rivera.

Are you enjoying being scum with damo twice in a row?

Cannot argue - this struck me as rdr defending his team’s strategy.

Agree, That is how it appeared to me. I think this is the first time he started posting alot. Maybe I am wrong about that.

[Johnny Big Horse]

the fact you think chaqa is our collective top townread is why you are still being considered scum by a swath of skeptics

I'm not doing this.

Everyone, please ignore every opinion brainbomb has ever posed and will pose henceforth. This post should be reason enough why.

There is ZERO reason suspect chaqa being scum and anyone pressing this angle should be considered highly suspect. I know I saw a few try to sneak a few by earlier and will be revisiting that.

Put me on your list then, Snowy, along with BB.

[damo666]

Morning.

[TheMadMonarch]

Morning.

hello there

[TheMadMonarch]

hmmm.....

Even after all that, I do not have many thoughts.

I think some of y'all are going after Jonny and his scumhunting strategy too hard, let the man live.

My read of ghug has lessened, and I have come to understand no-one else is on board. Considering I have like nothing else, I will sheep my townreads (and luckily they are in the same place).

##VOTE damo

I will be sleeping soon, so if you want answers, speak now.

[Hamilton Brian]

Busy day; market and going with wife while she gets her 2nd dose. Then leaving the region to have dinner with friends we haven't seen in a while. With guitars, and drink, and such...no way I'll be able to be rude and check the phone to see the EOD.

So, ##Vote EMC

They seem to have the most traction.

I want our DK to come from someone on the foodcoats wagon.

There are several. I have suspicions of jamie, ghug, chaqa. I suspect brain less, even with the gaffe of not realizing there was the open scumchat prior to game start. I think there's enough going on IRL that they get a pass.

I don't ever want to entertain the "In what world..." dismissal. Chaqa and rivera have both done that. So, suspicious of them.

[Hamilton Brian]

No, fuck that. Why do I want to jump on the wagon with people I am suspicious of.

##Vote Rivera

[damo666]

hmmm.....

Even after all that, I do not have many thoughts.

I think some of y'all are going after Jonny and his scumhunting strategy too hard, let the man live.

My read of ghug has lessened, and I have come to understand no-one else is on board. Considering I have like nothing else, I will sheep my townreads (and luckily they are in the same place).

##VOTE damo

I will be sleeping soon, so if you want answers, speak now.

This opportunistic vote hardens my scumread of Macca.

Brain's case on me is bizarre to say the least.

[worcej]

I'm not doing this.

Everyone, please ignore every opinion brainbomb has ever posed and will pose henceforth. This post should be reason enough why.

There is ZERO reason suspect chaqa being scum and anyone pressing this angle should be considered highly suspect. I know I saw a few try to sneak a few by earlier and will be revisiting that.

How are you so absolute in this opinion?

##vote worcej

The explanation was given. Your act is transparent. Good night worcej

Your explanation is entirely based of mechanics that can easily apply to scum too.

Your lack of trying to actually put anything else behind it is more telling.

[worcej]

I see there's no appetite for a Johnny Bad Horse wagon despite his scummy conduct.

Ok then, ##VOTE EMC

EMC needs to die soon please.

Lets try this again.

##vote EMC

[snowy801]

How are you so absolute in this opinion?

##vote worcej

The explanation was given. Your act is transparent. Good night worcej

Your explanation is entirely based of mechanics that can easily apply to scum too.

Your lack of trying to actually put anything else behind it is more telling.

Telling of what, exactly? Don't be coy, fully vocalize your thoughts. If you want to throw shade around you best believe it better be articulated. Am I scum to you, for telling you that your efforts to darken the shine of our objectively most town player is scummy?

And for the record, my opinion is not in fact entirely mechanically based and your attempt to misrepresent my ideas is certainly noted.

[snowy801]

hmmm.....

Even after all that, I do not have many thoughts.

I think some of y'all are going after Jonny and his scumhunting strategy too hard, let the man live.

My read of ghug has lessened, and I have come to understand no-one else is on board. Considering I have like nothing else, I will sheep my townreads (and luckily they are in the same place).

##VOTE damo

I will be sleeping soon, so if you want answers, speak now.

Could you articulate your town reads on brainbomb and PE? I believe ghug asked you this before, and even called you out on your lack of response.

Reading back on you, you have one mention that PE is your "top town", but no explanation. brainbomb you have no such thing so far as I can find, and you actually found the arguments as him being scum convincing. What changed?

Also, why did your scum read on ghug lessen?

[snowy801]

No, fuck that. Why do I want to jump on the wagon with people I am suspicious of.

##Vote Rivera

Just for clarity, do you only find rivera to be scummy on the e.m.c. wagon at the time of this comment, or is Jamiet included? Either way, why?

You previously had rivera as one of four people appearing towny for providing "clear thoughts." Has that impression changed? Or is it more the other points you made, that he was one of the Foodcoats final voters, and that he offered the "In what world" defense?

Finally, just to be clear, what is the "in what world" defense? Is it as it sounds, and is the "in what would would chaqa take gun as scum?" If you have time, could you point to the exact posts that made you feel that either of them were offering this defense, and why you found it to be scummy?

[snowy801]

Put me on your list then, Snowy, along with BB.

I don't mean offense, especially as it is the new player's delight to come to discover their own playstyle (which as bb previously mentioned I quite like to the point of "fellatio"ing it, for all that I never really called you town there I think.

But for reasons Jamiet already gave, I actually already have sort of written off your contributions for today except in context of what it says about you. You cannot expect your opinions to be considered seriously if you do not provide the reasons for which you give them.

So let's try this again - what is the state of your empirical formula that makes you town read and scum read people?

[snowy801]

This opportunistic vote hardens my scumread of Macca.

Brain's case on me is bizarre to say the least.

You say this, but I can't seem to find any case you have on Macca to harden. Does it exist (if so, point), or if not, what is it?

[damo666]

This opportunistic vote hardens my scumread of Macca.

Brain's case on me is bizarre to say the least.

You say this, but I can't seem to find any case you have on Macca to harden. Does it exist (if so, point), or if not, what is it?

Nothing concrete. A combo of gut feel and POE.

[ghug]

If I suggest Jamie's drunk, brainbomb will probably say we're scum together?

Are we not? Someone called "Ghug" was definitely posting in the QT.

My name is lowercase. Maybe that's brainbomb.

[snowy801]

This opportunistic vote hardens my scumread of Macca.

Brain's case on me is bizarre to say the least.

You say this, but I can't seem to find any case you have on Macca to harden. Does it exist (if so, point), or if not, what is it?

Nothing concrete. A combo of gut feel and POE.

Who would you say you have eliminated in your process, and why?

[damo666]

You say this, but I can't seem to find any case you have on Macca to harden. Does it exist (if so, point), or if not, what is it?

Nothing concrete. A combo of gut feel and POE.

Who would you say you have eliminated in your process, and why?

I'll do a full list.

[damo666]

This is as much a note to self as for general consumption. Most reads are currently superficial without any hard reasoning to back them up.

ghug - town for the apparent gun claim
Jamie - town due to shot
Worcej - townlean
brain - presumably town, scumbrain wouldn't make a bizarre case like ha has on me
PE - scumlean
Macca - scumlean, bit supicious of the lack of engagement
rdr - null [as always]
HBrian - null but not as engaged as last game, probably not ai though
Chaqa - town due to gunshot
Emc - null but a fair dk option
Snowy - town due to shot
JBH - townlean